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Mattel, Jurassic World: The Fallen Kingdom toys - new for 2018

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Shadowknight1

Suchomimus was mentioned in JP3 when Alan's sidekick was trying to identify the very obvious Spinosaurus.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?


Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Faelrin on February 20, 2018, 02:42:51 AM
I'm aware the Stegosaurus should be smaller then the Triceratops, but I think it has always been the other way around in the films since TLW right?

I'm actually impressed at how many of the film's species are covered here, and done pretty film accurately for 'cheap' toys in sculpts and paintwork. Nearly everything, except the Apatosaurus (except for the mini fig), Brachiosaurus, Mamenchisaurus, Parasaurolophus, (except for the mini fig), Corythosaurus, Compsognathus, the new ceratopsian in the new film (although the Pachyrhinosaurus was probably intended to be it before it was changed), and the Spinosaurus and Indominus rex, have toys from this Mattel line. Assuming I'm not missing any of the on screen creatures in these films. They even surprisingly did the Herrerasaurus based off the one from the JP Telltale game (shame they didn't do the Troodon though, that would have been great). Obviously Kenner and Hasbro have most of those 'exceptions' covered though. There's really enough out there to get a near complete collection of every creature in these films together, and for the most part, relatively in scale together, if some work is done hunting them down. Some of these were also only mentioned in the first movie and JW by name too (Metriacanthosaurus Proceratosaurus in the first film, and Suchomimus I think in JW).

I think this toyline is going to satisfy my JP collecting needs for a time to come because of that. I still wish to see some large sauropods done at some point, maybe if they aren't to scale, or are juvenile animals, but I suppose at least there's the JPIII Brachiosaurus in case there never is one again. I'm also sad there is no Parasaurolophus except for the mini figure, but thankfully Kenner's is still top notch. I need to pick that one asap all things considering.

The Stegos in TLW were monsters..I mean just HUGE.  The largest size for a Stego is 30' Ours here at the Park is that long and looks enormous.   It's taller than the Triceratops we have but can't beat the sheer bulk of the Trike.

I figure this is only releases for this year,  if the line takes off and looks to do just that,  we'll get a big sauropod and def a hadrosaur later.  They wanted to hit hard and be successful for the first go round so that meant it had to be  theropod heavy.    We also have a 3rd JW movie in the works too don't forget.

Blade-of-the-Moon

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Quote from: Shadowknight1 on February 20, 2018, 03:38:59 AM
Suchomimus was mentioned in JP3 when Alan's sidekick was trying to identify the very obvious Spinosaurus.

That whole thing kinda was odd.  I think they had planned on using Suchomimus or Baryonyx in the third film then Horner I think suggested Spinosaurus.  It does look like a fin was just sculpted onto a Baryonyx looking at it years later. 

Appalachiosaurus

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Quote from: Faelrin on February 20, 2018, 02:42:51 AM
I'm aware the Stegosaurus should be smaller then the Triceratops, but I think it has always been the other way around in the films since TLW right?

The Stegosaurus in TLW were a monsterous 40 feet long, dwarfing both the real animal and every other Ornithischian on the Island.

Shadowknight1

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 20, 2018, 05:27:52 AM
Quote from: Shadowknight1 on February 20, 2018, 03:38:59 AM
Suchomimus was mentioned in JP3 when Alan's sidekick was trying to identify the very obvious Spinosaurus.

That whole thing kinda was odd.  I think they had planned on using Suchomimus or Baryonyx in the third film then Horner I think suggested Spinosaurus.  It does look like a fin was just sculpted onto a Baryonyx looking at it years later.
Well, to be somewhat fair, at the time Spinosaurus reconstructions were mostly Baryonyx/Suchomimus with a sail.  They didn't know how truly bizarre and unique that creature would turn out to be.  Stuff like that makes me wonder though.  Did InGen have a Quality Control section on the cloning line?  And did they see things like Spino's shorter legs or feathery raptors and go "That's not what the fossils we've been shown look like.  Must be faulty."
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

MLMjp

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on February 20, 2018, 11:42:53 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 20, 2018, 05:27:52 AM
Quote from: Shadowknight1 on February 20, 2018, 03:38:59 AM
Suchomimus was mentioned in JP3 when Alan's sidekick was trying to identify the very obvious Spinosaurus.

That whole thing kinda was odd.  I think they had planned on using Suchomimus or Baryonyx in the third film then Horner I think suggested Spinosaurus.  It does look like a fin was just sculpted onto a Baryonyx looking at it years later.
Well, to be somewhat fair, at the time Spinosaurus reconstructions were mostly Baryonyx/Suchomimus with a sail.  They didn't know how truly bizarre and unique that creature would turn out to be.  Stuff like that makes me wonder though.  Did InGen have a Quality Control section on the cloning line?  And did they see things like Spino's shorter legs or feathery raptors and go "That's not what the fossils we've been shown look like.  Must be faulty."
Maybe you should take a look on this:
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Masrani_backdoor
Some secret files that talk about Wu experiments and such. One of them is very interesting:
---BEGIN LOG---

OWNER: WU, HENRY
DATE: 02/20/2003 1410 CST
SUBJECT: RUFFLED FEATHERS
NOTES: I'M CALLING THIS THE 'COMMON COLD OF GENETICS'. WE CAN'T CURE THIS ONE SOON I'M SURE. BECAUSE WE'RE ACTIVELY MANIPULATING AND MUTATING THE ANIMALS' GENES, ADDING FROG, BIRD AND REPTILE DNA, WE CREATE WHAT IS KNOWN AS 'NULL ALLELE'. THE DINOSAURS CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT SOMETHING ADDED TO THEIR CODE SO FOR NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH SCALES. MAYBE MY RESEARCH INTO GENE SPLICING WILL UNEARTH THIS PROBLEM, IT CERTAINLY PROVED ITS LIMITLESS CAPABILITIES WITH THAT ACCIDENT WE LEFT ON SORNA.

---END LOG---

Apparently manipulation of the genes and adding other creatures DNA makes "Null Allele" aka "No feathers".
And the accident that was left on Sorna has been speculated to be:

A: The Velociraptors of JP3, because the males had those tiny feathers.
B: The Spinosaurus, which what most people think it is, which also implies that the Spinosaurus could have been the first "Hybrid" or an Experiment that went wrong. This would also explain why it is not on InGen´s list.
C: Somehting else.

Blade-of-the-Moon

That is interesting.. maybe the toothed pteranodons as well?   Could refer to all of it. lol

Paleodude

Talk about my expectations being blown way out of the water! For Jurassic Park figures these are really well sculpted, perhaps even better than the JP III line. It really does feel like a great return to form and the prices mentioned are surprisingly affordable. $30 for the giant Mosasaur still baffles me. If the final production line is similar to the toy fair then I might seriously consider hunting the whole set.

CityRaptor

Quote from: Paleodude on February 20, 2018, 07:22:05 PM
For Jurassic Park figures these are really well sculpted, perhaps even better than the JP III line.

That sentence  makes no sense. Seriously, have you never seen the old Kenner lines from the 90s? JPIII is junk compared to them.


Quote from: suspsy on February 20, 2018, 02:08:03 AM
I was thinking more in terms of artistry rather than business. I don't know who the Hasbro design team was for JW, but I'm assuming that they thought at the time that they had done a good job on sculpting the toys.

I imagine that Hasbro probably did not request too much effort from them. They probably considered it just a filler line till TFA came out anyways.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

stargatedalek

Quote from: CityRaptor on February 20, 2018, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: Paleodude on February 20, 2018, 07:22:05 PM
For Jurassic Park figures these are really well sculpted, perhaps even better than the JP III line.

That sentence  makes no sense. Seriously, have you never seen the old Kenner lines from the 90s? JPIII is junk compared to them.
I disagree, the action features were pretty bad and the toys weren't designed very well, but the JP/// sculpts were a lot more detailed.


Reptilia

Quote from: MLMjp on February 20, 2018, 12:12:51 PM
Maybe you should take a look on this:
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Masrani_backdoor
Some secret files that talk about Wu experiments and such. One of them is very interesting:
---BEGIN LOG---

OWNER: WU, HENRY
DATE: 02/20/2003 1410 CST
SUBJECT: RUFFLED FEATHERS
NOTES: I'M CALLING THIS THE 'COMMON COLD OF GENETICS'. WE CAN'T CURE THIS ONE SOON I'M SURE. BECAUSE WE'RE ACTIVELY MANIPULATING AND MUTATING THE ANIMALS' GENES, ADDING FROG, BIRD AND REPTILE DNA, WE CREATE WHAT IS KNOWN AS 'NULL ALLELE'. THE DINOSAURS CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT SOMETHING ADDED TO THEIR CODE SO FOR NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH SCALES. MAYBE MY RESEARCH INTO GENE SPLICING WILL UNEARTH THIS PROBLEM, IT CERTAINLY PROVED ITS LIMITLESS CAPABILITIES WITH THAT ACCIDENT WE LEFT ON SORNA.

---END LOG---

Apparently manipulation of the genes and adding other creatures DNA makes "Null Allele" aka "No feathers".
And the accident that was left on Sorna has been speculated to be:

A: The Velociraptors of JP3, because the males had those tiny feathers.
B: The Spinosaurus, which what most people think it is, which also implies that the Spinosaurus could have been the first "Hybrid" or an Experiment that went wrong. This would also explain why it is not on InGen´s list.
C: Somehting else.

Interesting!

Fembrogon

Wow, color me impressed with this whole toy lineup. The Roarivores look pretty good, and I definitely want that Mosasaur and Thrash & Throw rex!
I wasn't expecting to care about this film's merchandise at all - I hadn't even bothered looking at the relevant threads here on the forum - but things are looking very good! Here's an early congrats to Mattel, and another for later if the toys hold up in person!

Faelrin

So apparently there are two Indoraptor toys. The boxed one seen earlier is just the regular non electronic figure. The electronic prototype can be seen in the video here (at the 7:40 mark). I'll probably just go for the cheaper non electronic one if need be, but it is cool that there will be an option out there that features the sounds for those into that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtRxB1yKbQs
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Reptilia

Might be just that weird silver finish, but the Indoraptor looks totally out of place in this toy line. I hope that it won't be the same for the character in the context of the movie.

Blade-of-the-Moon

I'm not sure it's silver, might be really glossy?   The movement on the electronic one is very fluid, I love that aspect.  If I can swing it I will get both.

Still on the fence about the Pterano-drone though..

Joey

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 21, 2018, 01:42:30 AM
I'm not sure it's silver, might be really glossy?   The movement on the electronic one is very fluid, I love that aspect.  If I can swing it I will get both.

Still on the fence about the Pterano-drone though..
Atleast it's in scale with the line.
I'd suggest getting the normal figure instead though.

Flaffy

The large electronic Indo seems like it has a better head sculpt, but the gloss and the floppiness is a turn off.
Really impressed with how smooth Mattel managed to make the articulation and action features.

IrritatorRaji

Part of me is assuming it looks glossy because of the intensity of the lights

ITdactyl

Thanks for sharing that vid Faelrin.

'Was chuckling at the part where the guy doing the demo for the pterano-drone was also humming the JP theme.  Guy should get a raise, he sold me on the pteranodrone and the thrasher Rex. :D

Those dinosaur figures are so well done though (scientific accuracy aside)... my collector impulse is getting triggered.... wallet be dmned

Shadowknight1

Quote from: Flaffy on February 21, 2018, 05:57:37 AM
The large electronic Indo seems like it has a better head sculpt, but the gloss and the floppiness is a turn off.
Really impressed with how smooth Mattel managed to make the articulation and action features.
Well, he did say it was a prototype and won't be out til fall, so they have time.

And I have to say, whoever it was who did the photography on the thrasher rex that resulted in the awful leaked pictures that made it look like a malproportioned mess needs to be fired.  That video shows that it looks pretty close to the ol' rexy.  And any abuse of Chris Pratt is always funny.  And I think Pratt himself would probably be doing that kind of crap.  Seems like that kind of guy lol
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

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