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Battat 2018

Started by DC, February 26, 2018, 03:33:38 PM

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postsaurischian

 ??? Why do people always think that quality doesn't serve children right? It's a social problem!
      Even as the five year old Dinosaur fan I was I wouldn't have touched these robots.


Quen

Quote from: postsaurischian on March 01, 2018, 05:34:41 PM
??? Why do people always think that quality doesn't serve children right? It's a social problem!
      Even as the five year old Dinosaur fan I was I wouldn't have touched these robots.

Same. I've never understood that either. I always wanted the toys that looked most realistic. I would've hated the light-up function; it doesn't belong on a real animal, even an extinct one.

paintingdinos

#62
Battat as a company is largely servicing toddler-age children. 

Most people do not start forming long-term memories until they are about 7.

Very young children tend to focus on sensile play- things that have nice textures,  things that make interesting noises... yes, things that light up.

Forgive me for not personally buying into the "savant toddler" rhetoric  ::)

Simon

#63
Quote from: paintingdinos on March 01, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Battat as a company is largely servicing toddler-age children. 
*SNIP*

And that, in a nutshell, I believe, is the explanation for why Battat just doesn't seem to care (too much) about their dinosaur toy figure line.  Its not that they are evil, or spiteful, etc.  They're a business.  And their decades-long and established niche is the toddler set ... frankly we should all be wondering how and why they got interested in doing the original dinosaur toy figure line in the first place (instead of why they appear to have lost interest in it - TWICE).

Let's be grateful for what they DID give us, instead of taking it for granted ... just my 2 cents worth ...

;)

Shonisaurus

Quote from: Simon on March 01, 2018, 08:32:45 PM
Quote from: paintingdinos on March 01, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Battat as a company is largely servicing toddler-age children. 
*SNIP*

And that, in a nutshell, I believe, is the explanation for why Battat just doesn't seem to care (too much) about their dinosaur toy figure line.  Its not that they are evil, or spiteful, etc.  They're a business.  And their decades-long and established niche is the toddler set ... frankly we should all be wondering how and why they got interested in doing the original dinosaur toy figure line in the first place (instead of why they appear to have lost interest in it - TWICE).

Let's be grateful for what they DID give us, instead of taking it for granted ... just my 2 cents worth ...

;)

I totally agree with you. We appreciate that Battat in a fairly broad era has focused on collectors, despite being a company designed to make toys for children.

To be grateful is to be good born.  :)

Stuckasaurus (Dino Dad Reviews)

Quote from: Shonisaurus on March 01, 2018, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: Simon on March 01, 2018, 08:32:45 PM
Quote from: paintingdinos on March 01, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Battat as a company is largely servicing toddler-age children. 
*SNIP*

And that, in a nutshell, I believe, is the explanation for why Battat just doesn't seem to care (too much) about their dinosaur toy figure line.  Its not that they are evil, or spiteful, etc.  They're a business.  And their decades-long and established niche is the toddler set ... frankly we should all be wondering how and why they got interested in doing the original dinosaur toy figure line in the first place (instead of why they appear to have lost interest in it - TWICE).

Let's be grateful for what they DID give us, instead of taking it for granted ... just my 2 cents worth ...

;)

I totally agree with you. We appreciate that Battat in a fairly broad era has focused on collectors, despite being a company designed to make toys for children.

To be grateful is to be good born.  :)

Hear hear. I too am foolishly reviving a bit of hope for the museum line, but I will try be grateful for what I got if this is the end, even though it will be a bitter pill to swallow. And if we can give Pixar a pass for their "Cars" cash grab in exchange for more good stuff, then I guess I can let Battat have this in return for what we got from them. While I'm not interested in them at all, I'm at least glad kids will be getting dino toys based on decent source material.

FlawedCoil82

#66
It truly is a shame that the beautiful molds have to be held by such an uninterested company. I haven't seen such baffling decisions being made since Bandai Creation with their "Godzilla" line where they rereleased the same four vinyl figures year after year after year. Then with the 2014 movie, instead of doing a proper vinyl figure, they stupidly made these horrendous "gimmick" figures that had huge, ugly gaps and pitiful sculpting. Then after all the hype from the movie died down, that is when they finally decided to make a proper figure which (of course) flew straight into the bargain bins since they failed to release a decent figure when the property was still hot.

IF these crappy things somehow sell well, all it will likely do is encourage them to extend the line-up for the light-up/articulated figures. In all honesty, the ONLY possible hope I now see for the remaining Battat molds is if a far more competent company could come in and buy up all the remaining molds and rescue them from the clueless clutches of Battat. Unless that happens, then I will (eventually) sell off the other Battats I already have. They are useless to me if I will never be able to add the prized Triceratops and Styracosaurus to the collection. Apart from Pachyrhinosaurus, I really don't like or care about any of the other animals. I only bought them to support the line to help encourage/ensure the release of the other Ceratopsians.

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paintingdinos

Weren't the Triceratops and Styracosaurus sculpted by Greg Wenzel?

The box art literally calls the current toys the "Dan Lorusso" collection... what proof do we have that they were seriously going to reissue any of the Wenzel models under Terra? I saw the repainted Styracosaurus, but were any of the CURRENT Terra line toys sculpted by anyone other than Dan? I sincerely don't know.

No one knows the full story of what's going on behind the curtains at Battat, and getting so bent out of shape about these toys is truly baffling.

This is a company who makes toys for toddlers... literally having ADULT dinosaur toy collectors hoping they "burn in hell".

Geez.

SidB

Even though the repaints were all included under the rubric "Dan LoRusso Collection," they were actually a mixture of sculpts from both paleoartists. The four new Terras were all Dan's. So, of the remaining oldies, not yet re-issued as repaints, these also belong to both men. This includes the iconic Diplodocus, which is Dan's creation. The go-to site for the information on the old ones was the now defunct "Realm of Rubber Dinosaurs. "Also, I think that you'll find that Sim's knowledge of the line is quite authoritative.

Appalachiosaurus

I just hope these aren't the original models being gutted and filled with electronics. If they are entirely new but just share the mold, hopefully they'll be bigger.

tanystropheus

Quote from: Simon on March 01, 2018, 08:32:45 PM
Quote from: paintingdinos on March 01, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Battat as a company is largely servicing toddler-age children. 
*SNIP*

And that, in a nutshell, I believe, is the explanation for why Battat just doesn't seem to care (too much) about their dinosaur toy figure line.  Its not that they are evil, or spiteful, etc.  They're a business.  And their decades-long and established niche is the toddler set ... frankly we should all be wondering how and why they got interested in doing the original dinosaur toy figure line in the first place (instead of why they appear to have lost interest in it - TWICE).

Let's be grateful for what they DID give us, instead of taking it for granted ... just my 2 cents worth ...

;)

So when are they officially launching the Terra Toddlers prehistoric line?

Sim

#71
Quote from: paintingdinos on March 02, 2018, 01:41:10 AM
Weren't the Triceratops and Styracosaurus sculpted by Greg Wenzel?

The box art literally calls the current toys the "Dan Lorusso" collection... what proof do we have that they were seriously going to reissue any of the Wenzel models under Terra? I saw the repainted Styracosaurus, but were any of the CURRENT Terra line toys sculpted by anyone other than Dan? I sincerely don't know.

Out of the dinosaurs currently in the Battat Terra line, the following were sculpted by Gregory Wenzel: Tyrannosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus, Parasaurolophus.  In addition to those dinosaurs, out of the original ones Gregory Wenzel also sculpted the Triceratops, Gallimimus, Styracosaurus, Ouranosaurus, Utahraptor and Pachycephalosaurus.  The original ones sculpted by Dan LoRusso are the Diplodocus, Dilophosaurus, Stegosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Amargasaurus, Edmontonia, Carnotaurus, Maiasaura and Euoplocephalus.


Quote from: SidB on March 02, 2018, 02:03:29 AM
Even though the repaints were all included under the rubric "Dan LoRusso Collection," they were actually a mixture of sculpts from both paleoartists. The four new Terras were all Dan's. So, of the remaining oldies, not yet re-issued as repaints, these also belong to both men. This includes the iconic Diplodocus, which is Dan's creation. The go-to site for the information on the old ones was the now defunct "Realm of Rubber Dinosaurs. "Also, I think that you'll find that Sim's knowledge of the line is quite authoritative.

Oh, thanks for the words of approval!  I hadn't even posted anything in this thread, so I'm guessing you were referring to things I said in another thread.  I noticed Realm of Rubber Dinosaurs is gone.  I kind of wonder what happened to it.

terrorchicken

guys! I saw two of the new figures at Target yesterday, the utahraptor and the set with the t-rex. They are much bigger than the original models and a very hard plastic like the Chap Meis, though they feel more "hollow".

hopefully, they'll release the unreleased figures in the original size with the newer paint schemes down the line...


EmperorDinobot

Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 27, 2018, 03:33:24 PM
The little ones and the collectors who are fans of the Jurassic Park theme with excessively articulated animals are in luck.

I would have preferred that they had kept the old non-articulated PVC format they had before and their soft plastic.

What's wrong with articulated dinosaurs?

Takama

#74




And no mention of Dan LoRusso in Sight

EmperorDinobot

Goodness! That is quite large!

sauroid

is that thing priced at $39.99???
"you know you have a lot of prehistoric figures if you have at least twenty items per page of the prehistoric/dinosaur section on ebay." - anon.

Reptilia

#77
Looks like the love child of Battat and Hasbro, very unflattering.

Takama

#78
Quote from: sauroid on March 05, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
is that thing priced at $39.99???

Well A while after I took that photo, A Target employee came out and placed a couple of the mountain with T.Rex sets up where these Utahraptors are located at.

so no,I do not think there that pricey

Roselaar

No mention of Dan is despicable, but I like that they kept the same package. But boy, are these big! Are they all the same size or is there some scale involved?

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