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JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

Started by dragon53, March 30, 2018, 06:46:59 PM

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KeU

Quote from: stargatedalek on June 25, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
Nope.
It's Greek, not Latin. The usual Latin pronunciation would be "gig-a-no-to-saurus", like in "gig-a-bite", but in Greek it should be "jai" like high or sky. Wikipedia sounds it out as "jy-ga" which was an extremely poor choice oh spelling and I wouldn't be surprised if that alone is responsible for a lot of people thinking it's pronounced "jig", as in fishing.
Good to know.
I basically followed how Rodolfo Coria pronounced it.
Since he named it, I figured that's the best bet.


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ITdactyl

debates aside... the random reaction that got my attention was: "Those aren't feathers! Why are the dinosaurs furry?"

I wonder which 3rd party company will produce the first Dominion saw-back Giggles....

Shadowknight1

Quote from: ITdactyl on June 27, 2021, 07:11:11 AM
debates aside... the random reaction that got my attention was: "Those aren't feathers! Why are the dinosaurs furry?"

I wonder which 3rd party company will produce the first Dominion saw-back Giggles....
I'd probably like it more if the osteoderms didn't give it the impression of looking more like Acrocanthosaurus than Giganotosaurus.  It's definitely a nicer design than either the Indominus rex or the Indoraptor.
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Halichoeres

Quote from: stargatedalek on June 25, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
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Quote from: ITdactyl on June 22, 2021, 05:47:34 AM
punk spikey look for Giggles might be wrong, but it's growing on me.
I wonder if they'll change the head on the quetz toy to match that movie design. Speaking of which, help a color blind brother out. What color is it?  All I see are shades of "orange" (probably just the lighting)....
Oh I am torn now.
Whether Giggles or Jiggy is a better name.....
I would avoid calling it Jiggy, if only because calling it "Jig-a-no-tosaurus" is such a pervasive mispronunciation. It should be "Jai-ga-no-to-saurus".
I think the actual pronunciation is Jig-A-No-To-Sau-Rus.
And not the usual way of pronouncing Gigantic.
Nope.

It's Greek, not Latin. The usual Latin pronunciation would be "gig-a-no-to-saurus", like in "gig-a-bite", but in Greek it should be "jai" like high or sky. Wikipedia sounds it out as "jy-ga" which was an extremely poor choice oh spelling and I wouldn't be surprised if that alone is responsible for a lot of people thinking it's pronounced "jig", as in fishing.

Well, you are right that it is Greek. So is the "giga" in gigabyte. In Greek, the same letter (gamma) is used for both, and its pronunciation did not depend on what vowel came after it. That only happens in words that come via Latin or French, so if we want to be really anal about etymology it should be "gig-a-no-to-saurus." But we should probably not be anal because the versions of the languages that these words come from are all dead, and anyway, all the Greek words are wrenched into a Latin framework, so "jig-a-no-to-saurus" is a perfectly reasonable pronunciation. "Jai" is about as far from Greek as you can get and still have it be represented by these letters. "Jai" s what you get when you anglicize French.
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OK now I'm confused, I always used to use gig as in gigabite, job ("a gig") etc, and was told that was incorrect. So it really was gig?

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on June 27, 2021, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: ITdactyl on June 27, 2021, 07:11:11 AM
debates aside... the random reaction that got my attention was: "Those aren't feathers! Why are the dinosaurs furry?"

I wonder which 3rd party company will produce the first Dominion saw-back Giggles....
I'd probably like it more if the osteoderms didn't give it the impression of looking more like Acrocanthosaurus than Giganotosaurus.  It's definitely a nicer design than either the Indominus rex or the Indoraptor.

I'm betting on Nanmu. 

Of course plenty of licensed ones...Prime 1 is likely going to have an large official statue.  We know Mattel has some planned as well a Super Colossal no less..

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bone crusher

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So I did some comparisons between the Rex and Giga from the leaked footage, I think this can give us a good idea of their size differences.
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It does seem like T Rex is a bit bulkier at least from these angles.

Blade-of-the-Moon

You know I think the ridge on the back is an element taken from a Concavenator, smaller of course but maybe they figured it was something it could have had as well as making it different?

I also think Rexy is the instigator of the fight here?

ITdactyl

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I'm still studying about this topic, but is it possible the embellishments on the dinosaurs' designs were deliberately done so they can be branded? What I mean is, every toy company can make a Giganotosaurus replica, but the saw-backed design would be a JP trademark and requires special licensing to be produced. I know there are exceptions; Papo seems to be able to make JP inspired designs with no reaction from Universal, but there's also the Chinese companies who went through the trouble of obtaining the license to produce replicas of the JPsaurs.

On a slightly related topic; everyone's comparing Rexy to the latest known reconstruction of a Tyrannosaurus to point out how "inaccurate" she is, disregarding the fact that she was a product of the tug-of-war between 1990's science and the wishes of Amblin entertainment and Universal Studios.

A lot of you might be familiar with the link below, but I'll still highlight that it's a nice writeup about how Rexy (or atleast her design) was born.
https://dinosaursscifi.wordpress.com/2017/05/02/the-design-process-of-jurassic-parks-t-rex/

It seems Rexy started off as a scientifically accurate 90s T.rex but went through 3 years of tweaking based on different influences.

Oh, yeah avatar_Blade-of-the-Moon @Blade-of-the-Moon .... the rex shot first. ;D

bone crusher

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on June 28, 2021, 12:36:15 PM
You know I think the ridge on the back is an element taken from a Concavenator, smaller of course but maybe they figured it was something it could have had as well as making it different?

I also think Rexy is the instigator of the fight here?
Now that I looked again at Giga's skeletal restoration from Scott hartman, it did have a couple of tall-ish vertebrates extruded out just right above its shoulders, perhaps they could provide some space for ridges alignment?
Also that wasn't Rexy, her ancestor more likely :). It's possible the Rex was patrolling its territory tho and Giga was the intruder?

Appalachiosaurus

To me it looks like they based the eye crests and huge overlapping spikes off the Crested Dragon
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Quote from: stargatedalek on June 28, 2021, 03:45:46 AM
OK now I'm confused, I always used to use gig as in gigabite, job ("a gig") etc, and was told that was incorrect. So it really was gig?


Yes. There is no j/soft g sound in Ancient Greek. "G" in Greek derived words is always hard as in "gate", never soft as in "gel".


Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: bone crusher on June 28, 2021, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on June 28, 2021, 12:36:15 PM
You know I think the ridge on the back is an element taken from a Concavenator, smaller of course but maybe they figured it was something it could have had as well as making it different?

I also think Rexy is the instigator of the fight here?
Now that I looked again at Giga's skeletal restoration from Scott hartman, it did have a couple of tall-ish vertebrates extruded out just right above its shoulders, perhaps they could provide some space for ridges alignment?
Also that wasn't Rexy, her ancestor more likely :). It's possible the Rex was patrolling its territory tho and Giga was the intruder?

Possibly.   The director said that's the original Rexy and the modern day one is a clone of her.

GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: ITdactyl on June 27, 2021, 07:11:11 AM
debates aside... the random reaction that got my attention was: "Those aren't feathers! Why are the dinosaurs furry?"

I wonder which 3rd party company will produce the first Dominion saw-back Giggles....
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Halichoeres

Quote from: Newt on June 28, 2021, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on June 28, 2021, 03:45:46 AM
OK now I'm confused, I always used to use gig as in gigabite, job ("a gig") etc, and was told that was incorrect. So it really was gig?


Yes. There is no j/soft g sound in Ancient Greek. "G" in Greek derived words is always hard as in "gate", never soft as in "gel".

Yup. Latin didn't have it either, but French does, and because of its influence on English, English speakers tend to use a "soft" g before i, e, or y, even in words direct from Greek (like gymnasium). "Gigantic" is derived from "gigas," the same root as "gigabyte," but starts with "jai" for most speakers because of the French-derived "giant," which has the same ultimate root but by a more circuitous path. But anyway my main point is that as long as you have the right number of syllables, it usually isn't worth stressing too much about the pronunciation of scientific names.
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avatar_ITdactyl @ITdactyl Yeah that definitely seems to be the case other then wanting it to appear vastly different from the T. rex.

avatar_Blade-of-the-Moon @Blade-of-the-Moon I've seen others compare it to Concavenator (or also Acrocanthosaurus, another relative), which is a carcharodontosaur but the major difference is these appear to be scutes added on versus it being from the spine itself. Of course that still doesn't detract from it being a possible source of inspiration.


Edit: To both the above it is also similar to the BaBR Allosaurus a not so distant relative as well, although this has been mentioned and discussed before here.

B @bone crusher
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I think the one in the modern day scene had a similar bulkiness to it? Not modern day deep gastralia bulky, but like how she was in JP.
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avatar_Appalachiosaurus @Appalachiosaurus Now that you pointed it out they do seem similar.
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bone crusher

Quote from: Faelrin on June 29, 2021, 04:55:28 PM
avatar_ITdactyl @ITdactyl Yeah that definitely seems to be the case other then wanting it to appear vastly different from the T. rex.

avatar_Blade-of-the-Moon @Blade-of-the-Moon I've seen others compare it to Concavenator (or also Acrocanthosaurus, another relative), which is a carcharodontosaur but the major difference is these appear to be scutes added on versus it being from the spine itself. Of course that still doesn't detract from it being a possible source of inspiration.


Edit: To both the above it is also similar to the BaBR Allosaurus a not so distant relative as well, although this has been mentioned and discussed before here.

B @bone crusher
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I think the one in the modern day scene had a similar bulkiness to it? Not modern day deep gastralia bulky, but like how she was in JP.
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avatar_Appalachiosaurus @Appalachiosaurus Now that you pointed it out they do seem similar.
Yeah JP Rexy definitely had a great deal of bulk, similar to the Buck from TLW.

Rain

Did they ever give a reason as to why Rexy appears to be getting younger? I thought JW did a good job of making her look aged, ugly as hell but aged nonetheless. FK made her look much younger and

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ITdactyl

She's still in California right? Noshing on some health conscious residents might have done her body some good. ;D  Kidding.  Mostly.

But yeah, her healthy appearance breaks the illusion of her being this aged, ragged warrior.

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