Modern cinema

[ITdactyl]

@amargasaurus cazaui , 'didn't bother mentioning it... I've read 7 articles dropping that tidbit, not to mention a lot of people are drumming it up on reddit. 

Was Aquaman a mentally stimulating film with a deep (erm, sorry) message?  Probably not... most of the themes have been used by other films/shows.  I just went in hoping for a non-dreary DC film and I wasn't disappointed.

I think both Aquaman and Bumblebee are both great "reboots" of their respective franchises (Aquaman for the DC/Justice League series).  The producers have finally taken note of the bad returns from their previous films (truth be told, a little late).  Does this mean modern cinema is taking a turn for the better?  Erm, can't say.  At least we're not being drowned with loud explosions and brainless fisticuffs.

[Loon]

Am I the only one sick of these live action Disney movies? They all look the same to me.

[Lizerd]

I am pretty done with them myself, I like the boom parts. But most of the time they are pretty uninteresting.

[Derek.McManus]

Crap, I might never live to see the day when star wars dies 

Star Wars died with the Last Jedi...Solo lost money at the box office a first for a Star Wars movie.

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

I'm actually excited to see the upcoming Lion King and Dumbo Movies. Nothing beats the original story but the visuals on the new versions are phenomenal. The new Aladdin doesn't interest me as much just because I didn't see the original as a kid so I'm not really nostalgic about it but I'll probably end up seeing it anyway if it's playing at the drive-in when I go.

[stargatedalek]

Crap, I might never live to see the day when star wars dies 

Star Wars died with the Last Jedi...Solo lost money at the box office a first for a Star Wars movie.

Solo under performed, but it still made a profit internationally. And given Solo's troubled production I wouldn't have been surprised if it did even worse than it did. I still think it's a genuinely entertaining movie and worth watching.

As for the live action adaptations; there is no way I'm going to miss out on John Oliver voicing a hornbill.

[Loon]

Star Wars died with the Last Jedi...Solo lost money at the box office a first for a Star Wars movie.

Definitely, it's not like when it was alive and well during the ewok movies, or the prequels, or the 300 books a year about the complex history of the Max Rebo band. That was when Star Wars was great.

I saw Bumblebee and Spiderverse. I really liked Bumblebee, dumb thing's made me buy a few transformers toys again. Even drove to a further-than-usual Walmart to get a G1 starscream reissue (thanks Lindsay). Also, Spiderverse was amazing, best superhero movie I've ever seen, the best animated movie I've seen in theatres in a while, and the best movie I've probably seen from 2018.

Revisionist Edit: I also saw Aquaman, it wasn't good, but it was entertaining as hell. Though does anybody have good images of:

Spoiler

the dinosaurs/pterosaurs in the place where they find his mom

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[Gwangi]

I'm not sure that Star Wars died with The Last Jedi. Still too soon to say. With J.J. back for episode 9 I'm sure there will be plenty of ticket sales, that and Mark Hamill will be returning. People want a conclusion to the new trilogy, or they at least want to see what J.J. fixes from The Last Jedi.  I think the reason Solo flopped so-to-speak was multi-faceted. It went through production hell which never helps a movie, we all know that, but there was also very little demand for a Han Solo origin story. No one asked for it, no one wanted it, and it certainly wasn't necessary. I think something like an Obi-wan movie with Ewan McGregor back would have fared far better. That's something with potential, something people want to see. So Disney put their eggs in the wrong basket with Solo and I genuinely think it would have done poorly no matter how well received The Last Jedi was.

As for the live action Disney, I'm very curious about The Lion King. Aside from that I couldn't care less. I haven't seen a lot of the Disney reboots but I did watch The Jungle Book and very much enjoyed it.

[ITdactyl]

@Loon, I think that bit from Aquaman has already been heavily spoiled.  But to answer your question, I haven't seen any good images of those critter cameos - only cam pirate screen caps.

I wanted to like "Into the Spiderverse" but I guess it's not for me.

On the topic of modern cinema, I tried to look for lists of good modern movies ('mglad the inter-webs provided a lot).  As examples:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/09/movies/the-25-best-films-of-the-21st-century.html
https://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/30-best-movies-all-time.html

Axe of Truth!  I only liked 2 of all the movies listed (Spirited Away and Fury Road).

So I guess I'm part of the problem.   I'm part of the group that will cause more "The Last Jedi"s and "Jurassic World"s to be made because I'm still willing to shell out coin to see these movies despite knowing the problems and flaws.

[PumperKrickel]

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[Loon]

https://www.gamesradar.com/upcoming-star-wars-movies/

Ah yes, don´t let the fact that there are numerous movies and a tv show coming in the near future deceive you. Star Wars is, indeed, very dead. 

Literally 2 TV shows (3 if you count the clone wars revival), another movie and another trilogy, potentially.

I think most people who say that "star wars is dead" just didn't like the last Jedi. Which, whatever. But, that just means it's dead to them. To me, star wars died probably sometime shortly after star tours, and was incredibly dead until, like, the clone wars. Though, gotta say, that 2d clone wars was pretty great tbh.

[Gwangi]

Star Wars died with Return of the Jedi. 

[Derek.McManus]

Saw Bumblebee yesterday thought it was an entertaining movie lots of little detail for anyone who remembers the 80's like me.Someone the locations where very impressive too.

[Derek.McManus]

https://www.gamesradar.com/upcoming-star-wars-movies/

Ah yes, don´t let the fact that there are numerous movies and a tv show coming in the near future deceive you. Star Wars is, indeed, very dead. 

Literally 2 TV shows (3 if you count the clone wars revival), another movie and another trilogy, potentially.

I think most people who say that "star wars is dead" just didn't like the last Jedi. Which, whatever. But, that just means it's dead to them. To me, star wars died probably sometime shortly after star tours, and was incredibly dead until, like, the clone wars. Though, gotta say, that 2d clone wars was pretty great tbh.

If you think Star Wars is not dead it is in a very bad place...Last Jedi was at best devisive and has caused a large backlash amongst fans.I didn't see Solo and have no intention of watching Episode ix and I saw every other Star Wars  movie in the cinema. Still if people like it I'm happy for them. I think a choice was made to try and appeal to a different audience and it may have backfired, still Ruin Johnson did want to subvert expectations and he certainly did that with his momma jokes, space walrus breastfeeding Luke, space horsey racing, Leia Poppins, bombs falling in a vacuum and Admiral Gender Studies to mention just a few.

[Shadowknight1]

Oh boy...another row against Star Wars.  I'll respect some of your opinions Derek, but I do have to point out that 1) Leia wasn't flying, she was pulling herself to the ship with the Force, a power that is well within canon, 2) We've had plenty of silly jokes in Star Wars, 3) Bombs weren't falling in a vacuum because there was oxygen and gravity in that bomber.  One the magnetic locks were released, the gravity of the ship pulled them down and momentum carried them the rest of the way.  I also disagree on Holdo, but I do think they could've handled that better.  One line about the possibility of a traitor on board would have made her withholding information make way more sense.  Breastfeeding Luke...that was gross, no two ways about it.  As for Solo...I'm not sorry I saw it, but it's not a "OH YOU GOTTA SEE THIS".  But hey, I like Star Wars, flaws and all, but they ARE flawed, every single one of them.  For me, the closest a movie has ever come to perfection in my eyes is Back to the Future.  I love that movie and always will.

All that aside, I have no problems with modern cinema.  I very rarely walk out of a movie that I go see and am disappointed, annoyed, or mad.  Some movies I see don't age well afterwards, yes.  The Transformers movies don't hold up on repeat viewings.  Nor did Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Alice in Wonderland.  But I always ask myself when I leave a movie: "Was I entertained?"  If the answer is yes, then I'm a happy guy.  Most anticipated movies of 2019?  Star Wars IX is up there, as is Avengers: Endgame.  Godzilla King of Monsters is looking pretty solid.  Captain Marvel and Shazam are in the low end of my anticipated films, mainly because the trailers so far haven't been all that exciting.  But as of right now?  I'm honestly more excited for Alita Battle Angel than any of them.

[stargatedalek]

https://www.gamesradar.com/upcoming-star-wars-movies/

Ah yes, don´t let the fact that there are numerous movies and a tv show coming in the near future deceive you. Star Wars is, indeed, very dead. 

Literally 2 TV shows (3 if you count the clone wars revival), another movie and another trilogy, potentially.

I think most people who say that "star wars is dead" just didn't like the last Jedi. Which, whatever. But, that just means it's dead to them. To me, star wars died probably sometime shortly after star tours, and was incredibly dead until, like, the clone wars. Though, gotta say, that 2d clone wars was pretty great tbh.

If you think Star Wars is not dead it is in a very bad place...Last Jedi was at best devisive and has caused a large backlash amongst fans.I didn't see Solo and have no intention of watching Episode ix and I saw every other Star Wars  movie in the cinema. Still if people like it I'm happy for them. I think a choice was made to try and appeal to a different audience and it may have backfired, still Ruin Johnson did want to subvert expectations and he certainly did that with his momma jokes, space walrus breastfeeding Luke, space horsey racing, Leia Poppins, bombs falling in a vacuum and Admiral Gender Studies to mention just a few.

Admiral Gender Studies? What exactly are you trying to imply here? It better not be a "trap" joke.

[Derek.McManus]

Shadow knight I can generally do the suspension of disbelief thing in movies but with the Last Jedi it was just too much for me, I might watch Solo if it's on the TV or something but I'm certainly not interested in paying for the privilege.

Stargatedalek I sense you are somewhat triggered just google the term it is what a section of the fan base call the Holdo character. Trap honestly I'm not sure what you mean unless it's the Admiral Ackbar meme and that's been about for years and I never heard about it offending anyone..

[Shadowknight1]

Shadow knight I can generally do the suspension of disbelief thing in movies but with the Last Jedi it was just too much for me, I might watch Solo if it's on the TV or something but I'm certainly not interested in paying for the privilege.

Stargatedalek I sense you are somewhat triggered just google the term it is what a section of the fan base call the Holdo character. Trap honestly I'm not sure what you mean unless it's the Admiral Ackbar meme and that's been about for years and I never heard about it offending anyone..

I don't understand why anyone would have problems with suspension of disbelief.  Star Wars is NEVER realistic.  It's not meant to be.  It's not science fiction.  It's science fantasy/space opera.  But hey, you're not being like certain people.  I have seen too many Star Wars fans attacking OTHER Star Wars fans, saying that they're not real fans if they liked The Last Jedi.  Personally, I love the direction of The Last Jedi, so I'm excited about where it will go next.  I was never invested in who Rey's parents were or who Snoke was, so that didn't bother me.

As for "trap", that's generally a term that is sometimes used to describe a feminine looking male who is usually crossdressing and doesn't look like a male.  I'm not sure it's offensive or not to the LGBT community these days.

And as for Solo, Derek, it's NOT BAD.  But it is probably the most average Star Wars film I've ever seen.  I personally don't feel like it did anything amazing because...well, it's just not something we needed answers to.  But it is fun.  Personally, these days I try to take a CinemaWins approach to movies.  "Liking things is more fun than disliking things."  And I generally feel that way after watching a Star Wars movie.  Or a Marvel movie.  Or a DC movie.  I would Star Trek, but Paramount's decided to shoot themselves in the face as far as that franchise goes.

I do want to bring up probably my biggest disappointment in film in recent times.  Ghost in the Shell.  I didn't care about the race controversy.  Major Kusanagi is a cyborg, her physical body doesn't matter much.  But the movie did so many things that were wrong or half-hearted that I barely felt any joy when the movie did something right.  Was I mad?  No.  Did I hate it?  No.  But I was disappointed and I think it kinda deserved the box office backlash it got.  I really hope that Alita Battle Angel will be better.

[Derek.McManus]

Have not seen too many movies in the cinema recently Bumblebee which was fine, Creed 2 entertaining if predictable, A Star is born, a bit too long but some good stuff in the early part of the movie, and the Freddie Mercury one which was fine as well. I'm afraid The Last Jedi just didn't grip me. Some people I know liked it so it's horse's for courses.

Thanks for the trap update didn't know that.

[Shadowknight1]

Have not seen too many movies in the cinema recently Bumblebee which was fine, Creed 2 entertaining if predictable, A Star is born, a bit too long but some good stuff in the early part of the movie, and the Freddie Mercury one which was fine as well. I'm afraid The Last Jedi just didn't grip me. Some people I know liked it so it's horse's for courses.

Thanks for the trap update didn't know that.

Bumblebee was fine?  Really?  I certainly haven't said that about a Transformers movie since the very first one.