Carnegie collection web site updates

[indy1936]

Here is a possible Brachiosaurus mold2v1 color variant. The base paint color is green instead of gray. The base plastic is gray vinyl but it is much more flexible than the gray 2v1 Brachiosaurus that I have. You can especially tell in the green version's neck as I can bend and twist it very easily. I can make the head and neck face backwards whereas the gray version is stiff and feels as if the vinyl would break.

Green 2v1 Brachiosaurus:



Comparison between green (left) and gray (right):


Gray 2v1 Brachiosaurus:

[indy1936]

What do you make of these? Couldn't find a match on the site for first guy.

Triceratops #1 (don't see him on site based on the stamp):

Triceratops #2 (mold2v1?): glossy Brown-black (back, frill stripe); very worn black on feature scales; black epiossifications; frill stripe is a distinct stripe; plastic is gray:

The first one looks like it's probably mold 4v1, based on the "2" mark and the small CE mark. The second does appear to be mold 2v1. Apparently I forgot to post pics of the stamp from mine, but I think it matches this. I'll double check when I get home.

EDIT: Actually, the solid stripe and blunt horns make me think this is a new version. I'm going to list it as 2v3 for now.

Cool. Makes sense.

[Dinoguy2]

Semi-web site update, but as I was doing some research for another in-depth review like the one I wrote for Quetzalcoatlus, I suddenly realized that most of the OG Carnegie color schemes seem to be based on the illustrations in Lambert's various 1980s era dinosaur books. I don't know why this never occurred to me before. I've talked a lot in my videos about how unusual some of those colors are, particularly the bright orange and dark green T. rex. It was literally staring me in the face, because the T. rex with that exact color scheme is right on the stinkin' cover! The T. rexes in the actual book either have the orange and green color scheme, or a lighter green with cream or yellow belly (exactly like the prototype paint scheme seen in early catalog pics). The Apatosaurus, which I assumed was based on Knight or Zallinger, also matches (though Lambert's was probably based on those in turn). Even the Parasaurolophus with it's muddy brownish green mottled paint job and the plain gray Triceratops. There is no Allosaurus pictured in the book, but the Carnegie one actually matches the color of the book's Megalosaurus. Beige Pteranodon is there. The green and mottled red Dimetrodon matches the catalog "rainbow" prototype, and an illustration by the same artist in one of Lambert's later books matches the release version exactly.

The only one that doesn't match is the Stegosaurus. Lambert's books pretty consistently use the old green and red color scheme. Of course Carnegie would implement that much later, but it's not close to either of the 80s versions.

[Leyster]

Semi-web site update, but as I was doing some research for another in-depth review like the one I wrote for Quetzalcoatlus, I suddenly realized that most of the OG Carnegie color schemes seem to be based on the illustrations in Lambert's various 1980s era dinosaur books. I don't know why this never occurred to me before. I've talked a lot in my videos about how unusual some of those colors are, particularly the bright orange and dark green T. rex. It was literally staring me in the face, because the T. rex with that exact color scheme is right on the stinkin' cover! The T. rexes in the actual book either have the orange and green color scheme, or a lighter green with cream or yellow belly (exactly like the prototype paint scheme seen in early catalog pics). The Apatosaurus, which I assumed was based on Knight or Zallinger, also matches (though Lambert's was probably based on those in turn). Even the Parasaurolophus with it's muddy brownish green mottled paint job and the plain gray Triceratops. There is no Allosaurus pictured in the book, but the Carnegie one actually matches the color of the book's Megalosaurus. Beige Pteranodon is there. The green and mottled red Dimetrodon matches the catalog "rainbow" prototype, and an illustration by the same artist in one of Lambert's later books matches the release version exactly.

The only one that doesn't match is the Stegosaurus. Lambert's books pretty consistently use the old green and red color scheme. Of course Carnegie would implement that much later, but it's not close to either of the 80s versions.

That's really interesting! Is there going to be a more detailed update about ispirations, maybe with comparison photos?

[Dinoguy2]

Here's a random question for any fellow Carnegie fans: does anyone have any first generation rubbery/dull color versions that actually have their original tags? I was working on the Tags page of my web site the other day and realized I have never once seen one of those in anybody's collections or on eBay that had tags. The earliest tags are the parchment paper ones, and I have seen those on the "Schleich catalogue" generation of figures aka Gold Wash (the earliest yellow version of Stegosaurus for example, and the gray/gold Allosaurus) but I've never seen the dull and rubbery ones with any tags. Makes me wonder if they even shipped with them. I also vaguely recall somebody mentioning some early Carnegie releases shipping with Bullyland tags, and that would line up with my hunch that Bullyland produced the rubber set.

[Dinoguy2]

As promised, I finally got round to adding a section about Carnegie boxes. It's a work in progress and missing photos of some box types I've seen before, so if anybody wants to donate pics it would be much appreciated!

https://carnegiecollection.blogspot.com/p/boxes.html

[Dinoguy2]

Big update to the Baby Apatosaurus page today, as well as some other odds and ends around the site like new photos for some Brachiosaurus variants.

[Dinoguy2]

Just got a physical copy of the 1989 Schleich brochure, so I was able to add some higher-res images of all the original 1988 prototype paint masters from the photos in it. You can see these as the first image on all of the entries under 1988 and 1989 here http://www.dinosaurmountain.net/p/the-carnegie-dinosaur-models.html

Also overhauled the History page with some new images, timeline/summary section, and some new information/quotes I've been able to find regarding the cancellation of the line (definitely seems like whatever contractual issues existed became too much for Safari, possibly having to do with the issue of prehistoric mammals?). http://www.dinosaurmountain.net/p/the-carnegie-collection-background-and.html

[Ikessauro]

Got his variant of the early T.rex. Not sure if you want to add it to the site, but feel free to use my pics.

[Dinoguy2]

Got his variant of the early T.rex. Not sure if you want to add it to the site, but feel free to use my pics.

Just seeing this now, thanks for the pics! I suspect this might be the same as the darker green variant of this rex I have from a person on FB but these pics are much clearer and the comparison shots are extremely useful.

[SidB]

Good to see that Dinoguy2's site is still alive and kicking!

[Dinoguy2]

Good to see that Dinoguy2's site is still alive and kicking!

It never ends... Ikussauro's photos led to me realize there's yet *another* type of variant I had missed before... my version of this T. rex is noticeably more robust. At some point they slimmed this mold down even before replacing it with the updated sculpt.


Both of these are the exact same mold, same little defects and bumps in the exact same places. It looks like they just shaved a few mm off the middle where the seam is. The older one has a nearly circular cross section at the tail base and a very barrel shaped torso, the newer one much more svelte.