Carnegie collection web site updates

[Ostafrikasaurus]

Thank you!! Should I just credit you as Ostafrikasaurus in the caption?

I'm very surprised to see this model with a plastic tag attachment. AFAIK these were not used until around 1995. So this model must have still been on the market, if not in production, until then, concurrently with the updated sculpt.

Ostafrikasaurus would be just fine. 

I think the plastic tag might be a later addition by the person I bought it from. My guess is they realized they still had the original tag but the elastic string was long since gone, so they used the plastic tag to reattach it to the figure. It looks a little longer than some of the other plastic tags I've seen on Carnegie figures, but it's hard to say for sure.

[Ikessauro]

Hey D @Dinoguy2 , have you seen this tag before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnegie-Collection-Dinosaur-Figure-LOT-of-10-Safari-Ltd-80s-90s/133526941553?hash=item1f16d36f71:g:TiMAAOSwcNJfadkV

[Dinoguy2]

Hey D @Dinoguy2 , have you seen this tag before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnegie-Collection-Dinosaur-Figure-LOT-of-10-Safari-Ltd-80s-90s/133526941553?hash=item1f16d36f71:g:TiMAAOSwcNJfadkV

Uh... That would appear to be an AMNH tag. WTF??? 😶

No literally I'm at a loss on this one. Maybe part of the 2006 gift shop licensing deal for the feathered dinosaurs exhibit? Some of the keychains they had there are in this same lot, and I always suspected the feathered dinosaur set of Carnegies were done as a tie-in for that as they debuted at the same time as the AMNH Toob... I really regret not buying any of the new Carnegies when I visited that exhibit. I bet they had these same tags. But I wasn't collecting while I was in university due to money and lack of display space. Oh well.

GREAT find. Whoever gets this set better not throw away the tags! I'd bid on it but there's a Leptoceratops in there so my chances of getting it for a reasonable bid are out the window. 🤔

[Dinoxels]

Hey D @Dinoguy2 , have you seen this tag before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnegie-Collection-Dinosaur-Figure-LOT-of-10-Safari-Ltd-80s-90s/133526941553?hash=item1f16d36f71:g:TiMAAOSwcNJfadkV

Uh... That would appear to be an AMNH tag. WTF??? 😶

No literally I'm at a loss on this one. Maybe part of the 2006 gift shop licensing deal for the feathered dinosaurs exhibit? Some of the keychains they had there are in this same lot, and I always suspected the feathered dinosaur set of Carnegies were done as a tie-in for that as they debuted at the same time as the AMNH Toob... I really regret not buying any of the new Carnegies when I visited that exhibit. I bet they had these same tags. But I wasn't collecting while I was in university due to money and lack of display space. Oh well.

GREAT find. Whoever gets this set better not throw away the tags! I'd bid on it but there's a Leptoceratops in there so my chances of getting it for a reasonable bid are out the window. 🤔

A Carnegie Collection figure with an American Museum of Nation History is just unsettling.

[Dinoguy2]

Hey D @Dinoguy2 , have you seen this tag before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnegie-Collection-Dinosaur-Figure-LOT-of-10-Safari-Ltd-80s-90s/133526941553?hash=item1f16d36f71:g:TiMAAOSwcNJfadkV

Uh... That would appear to be an AMNH tag. WTF??? 😶

No literally I'm at a loss on this one. Maybe part of the 2006 gift shop licensing deal for the feathered dinosaurs exhibit? Some of the keychains they had there are in this same lot, and I always suspected the feathered dinosaur set of Carnegies were done as a tie-in for that as they debuted at the same time as the AMNH Toob... I really regret not buying any of the new Carnegies when I visited that exhibit. I bet they had these same tags. But I wasn't collecting while I was in university due to money and lack of display space. Oh well.

GREAT find. Whoever gets this set better not throw away the tags! I'd bid on it but there's a Leptoceratops in there so my chances of getting it for a reasonable bid are out the window. 🤔

A Carnegie Collection figure with an American Museum of Nation History is just unsettling.

Yeah, and unless it's inside, there's no "Carnegie Collection" branding anywhere on it. Just the blue Carnegie Museum logo on the back. Extremely weird, this would almost count as a different "line".

[Dinoxels]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1996-Safari-LTD-The-Carnegie-Collection-BRACHIOSAURUS-Dinosaur/353213025693?hash=item523d230d9d:g:v~AAAOSwNTVfa9wU
A Safari Ltd. Brachiosaurus that looks like the Carnegie one?! Or is this just a repaint?
D @Dinoguy2

[Dinoguy2]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1996-Safari-LTD-The-Carnegie-Collection-BRACHIOSAURUS-Dinosaur/353213025693?hash=item523d230d9d:g:v~AAAOSwNTVfa9wU
A Safari Ltd. Brachiosaurus that looks like the Carnegie one?! Or is this just a repaint?
D @Dinoguy2

This is official, it's a repaint of the 1996 Wild Safari brach but I think it was released after the Carnegie.

[Dinoxels]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1996-Safari-LTD-The-Carnegie-Collection-BRACHIOSAURUS-Dinosaur/353213025693?hash=item523d230d9d:g:v~AAAOSwNTVfa9wU
A Safari Ltd. Brachiosaurus that looks like the Carnegie one?! Or is this just a repaint?
D @Dinoguy2

This is official, it's a repaint of the 1996 Wild Safari brach but I think it was released after the Carnegie.

Ah, I see.

[Dinoguy2]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1996-Safari-LTD-The-Carnegie-Collection-BRACHIOSAURUS-Dinosaur/353213025693?hash=item523d230d9d:g:v~AAAOSwNTVfa9wU
A Safari Ltd. Brachiosaurus that looks like the Carnegie one?! Or is this just a repaint?
D @Dinoguy2

This is official, it's a repaint of the 1996 Wild Safari brach but I think it was released after the Carnegie.

Ah, I see.

Actually now that I look, I might be misremembering the most recent repaint, which is similar to this but without the red. I can't find this Carnegie style version in any of my catalogs so it might be a custom. But I'm pretty sure I've seen a version like this for sale before...

[indy1936]

Hi. I have 2 carnegie stegosaurus 1995 resculpts that would appear to variations on mold 3. If they were to fit into the current site they would bookend the 2 current molds becoming mold 3v1 and mold 3v4. The current listings on the site would become 3v2 and 3v3. The first model is colored green but has the stamp on the bottom from a previous mold with 6 meters listed. He has the blended olive/yellow paint application as you describe with what appears to be an additional coat to his face and belly. The second model is like the current 3v2 listing 1:40 scale but without the additional olive spray to the belly. Please see attached pictures and let me know what you think. Feel free to include them on your site or I can take better pictures.









Also, carnegie and invicta figures appear in Star Trek: The Next Generation season 4 episode 3 "Brothers" fairly prominently.

[Dinoguy2]

Hi. I have 2 carnegie stegosaurus 1995 resculpts that would appear to variations on mold 3. If they were to fit into the current site they would bookend the 2 current molds becoming mold 3v1 and mold 3v4. The current listings on the site would become 3v2 and 3v3. The first model is colored green but has the stamp on the bottom from a previous mold with 6 meters listed. He has the blended olive/yellow paint application as you describe with what appears to be an additional coat to his face and belly. The second model is like the current 3v2 listing 1:40 scale but without the additional olive spray to the belly. Please see attached pictures and let me know what you think. Feel free to include them on your site or I can take better pictures.

Also, carnegie and invicta figures appear in Star Trek: The Next Generation season 4 episode 3 "Brothers" fairly prominently.

Thanks for these! I suspected there was a repaint version earlier than my sample since mine is stamped well after 2007. Is it ok if I use some of these photos on the site? If so, let me know how I should credit you.

[indy1936]

Thanks for these! I suspected there was a repaint version earlier than my sample since mine is stamped well after 2007. Is it ok if I use some of these photos on the site? If so, let me know how I should credit you.

Feel free to use them.  You can just put credit to indy1936. I sent higher resolution versions to the email listed on your website. Did those come through ok?  Not sure if you can make out the 1:40 stamp on the bottom of the second stegosaurus model without paint apps on belly.

[Dinoguy2]

Thanks for these! I suspected there was a repaint version earlier than my sample since mine is stamped well after 2007. Is it ok if I use some of these photos on the site? If so, let me know how I should credit you.

Feel free to use them.  You can just put credit to indy1936. I sent higher resolution versions to the email listed on your website. Did those come through ok?  Not sure if you can make out the 1:40 stamp on the bottom of the second stegosaurus model without paint apps on belly.

They're all set! https://carnegiecollection.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-carnegie-collection-stegosaurus-1995.html

Thanks for the high res pics, I think you can easily make out the stamp text on both. I have gone with a slightly different order for them than you suggested though. The first one I have numbered as mold 2 version 3, since it appears to be the exact same mold as the secondary 1995 version (complete with mold fatigued spikes which you can see in the last orange version as well). This lines up with the production pattern seen in the other 2007 repaints - they all initially continued using the existing mold, just repainted, then new molds were created a few years later to replace the decade old versions, often with additional changes (like the new head sculpt for Elasmosaurus).

I also put your second figure in between my two mold 3 samples rather than after them, based on the production date stamp. It seems they must have re-added the paint on the belly after they switched to airbrushing for the last production run.

[indy1936]

They're all set! https://carnegiecollection.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-carnegie-collection-stegosaurus-1995.html

Thanks for the high res pics, I think you can easily make out the stamp text on both. I have gone with a slightly different order for them than you suggested though. The first one I have numbered as mold 2 version 3, since it appears to be the exact same mold as the secondary 1995 version (complete with mold fatigued spikes which you can see in the last orange version as well). This lines up with the production pattern seen in the other 2007 repaints - they all initially continued using the existing mold, just repainted, then new molds were created a few years later to replace the decade old versions, often with additional changes (like the new head sculpt for Elasmosaurus).

I also put your second figure in between my two mold 3 samples rather than after them, based on the production date stamp. It seems they must have re-added the paint on the belly after they switched to airbrushing for the last production run.

Cool! Glad I was able to help in some way. I'll check it out! Looks awesome.

[indy1936]

Emailing you some information on the Allosaurus re-sculpt! Let me know what you think and if you receive the email.

Hi again.  I have a version of the carnegie allosaurus remake mold 2 that is not listed on the site.
He has mold fatigue on both hands and his right foot.  They appear squashed/compressed and the calf/foot appears thick.  His details are overall worn looking from the mold2v1 that I have and that is shown on your site. He is also thicker in proportions all over. I've included a comparison photo with the mold2v1 on top and the variant below.   His belly stamp is different from the one you have a photo of on the site for mold 2 version 1.   In the attached photos you can see the stamp text does not have skin texture behind it. The stamp reads ALLOSAURUS / 10 METERS / (C) Safari Ltd. / Made in China / CE 3.   


See thick right hand and foot/leg below:

CE 3 stamp with no skin texture:


Mold2v1 appears on top in the following 2 photos. You can see this new version below mold2v1 is thicker in body and has different sculpt lines on the side of the body:


It even differs some from mold1v3. The skin protrudes more, other details differ, the stamp is different, etc:




The odd thing I noticed is that your mold 2 version 1 lists a CE 3 mark in the description but your picture does not show the CE 3.   Is it possible your description for mold 2 version 1 is wrong? I've attached photos of my mold 2 version 1 without a CE 3 as it looks identical to your photos and it does not have the CE 3 unless I am somehow missing it.  His foot stamp is either 0512, 0612 or 0812. 




No CE3 on this mold2v1. Looks similar to the photo on your site though which is also missing the 3 i think?



Let me know what you think!  All of these models were purchased new by me.

[indy1936]

Found a variant of the 1988 allosaurus mold 2v1.  This is the same as 2v1 except the base color is a pale green not olive green.  The paint is also flat and not glossy.  Text on the belly is the same.

Paint variant on bottom of the first 2 photos:

[Dinoguy2]

Emailing you some information on the Allosaurus re-sculpt! Let me know what you think and if you receive the email.

Hi again.  I have a version of the carnegie allosaurus remake mold 2 that is not listed on the site.
He has mold fatigue on both hands and his right foot.  They appear squashed/compressed and the calf/foot appears thick.  His details are overall worn looking from the mold2v1 that I have and that is shown on your site. He is also thicker in proportions all over. I've included a comparison photo with the mold2v1 on top and the variant below.   His belly stamp is different from the one you have a photo of on the site for mold 2 version 1.   In the attached photos you can see the stamp text does not have skin texture behind it. The stamp reads ALLOSAURUS / 10 METERS / (C) Safari Ltd. / Made in China / CE 3.   

Thanks for the info and pics! I think what must have happened is that I originally copied the stamp text for the repainted Allosaurus off of eBay or something before I realized there were several versions of most repainted molds, then failed to update it when I took pics of my figure which uses the revised mold. Based on the pattern with other figures, I think there is must also be a version of the "number 3" mold you have in the original green colors...

As for the classic Allosaurus, comparing your photos with my figures I think your paler green one is actually the one I have and the darker olive one is the variant I'm missing. I am thinking the olive one is newer, based on the mold fatigue (check out the hand claws and the mold line across the foot). I updated the page and adjusted the color terminology to make it a little more clear.

[indy1936]

Updates look great!

I have a paint variant of the 2v1 Brachiosaurus mold also.  One version I have matches the light gray described on the carnegie blogspot. The other is a light green. I'll post pics when I can.

[indy1936]

What do you make of these? Couldn't find a match on the site for first guy.

Triceratops #1 (don't see him on site based on the stamp):




Triceratops #2 (mold2v1?): glossy Brown-black (back, frill stripe); very worn black on feature scales; black epiossifications; frill stripe is a distinct stripe; plastic is gray:

[Dinoguy2]

What do you make of these? Couldn't find a match on the site for first guy.

Triceratops #1 (don't see him on site based on the stamp):

Triceratops #2 (mold2v1?): glossy Brown-black (back, frill stripe); very worn black on feature scales; black epiossifications; frill stripe is a distinct stripe; plastic is gray:

The first one looks like it's probably mold 4v1, based on the "2" mark and the small CE mark. The second does appear to be mold 2v1. Apparently I forgot to post pics of the stamp from mine, but I think it matches this. I'll double check when I get home.

EDIT: Actually, the solid stripe and blunt horns make me think this is a new version. I'm going to list it as 2v3 for now.