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PNSO: New For 2021

Started by Takama, December 02, 2020, 08:27:09 PM

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Added the Controversial Figure to the first post


Halichoeres

#2121
I don't think Nanotyrannus is likely to be a different species, but I also don't think there's any need to be so disputatious about it. It's in a whole different niche/trophic level than its parents, which is interesting just from an ecology standpoint. What they call it doesn't matter very much if it's clear what it's modeled after.

Anyway, there have been two Nanotyrannus figures, as such, that I'm aware of: one from the Mattel Xtractaurs action figure line, and one from Planeta DeAgostini in the 90s.

On the subject of books, I have the older pterosaur and marine reptile encyclopedias in Chinese, and from the samples that Amazon let me see of the new editions, I have seen exactly zero new illustrations, so that leads me to think that they are largely recycled content.

I'm glad to see an entire Marine Museum heading in PNSO's Amazon store, but I'm perplexed that that section doesn't contain Ron the Mosasaurus. The banner image looks like a tylosaurine, given the lack of teeth in the anterior upper jaw. The marine reptile book has illustrations of Tylosaurus, Taniwhasaurus, and Hainosaurus (sometimes regarded as a synonym of Tylosaurus), so I'd say one of those might be in the offing. (I'm still hoping that Vitae gets their Kaikaifilu prototype into production some day.)

Thanks avatar_Faras @Faras for your very helpful translations, much appreciated!

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Just to clarify, I'm not saying Nanotyrannus is a valid genus. In fact, I have been convinced of quite the opposite by some interesting posts on Andrea Cau's blog, way before the latest researches.
I just noticed that some people still tend to separate Nanotyrannus from T. rex (even when commenting Silva's posts), so I was wondering if there was something on the two figures that would help their "lost" cause (general proportions, body mass, lacrimal horns, etc.). Then Faras pointed out the puppy eyes, tying Logan to Aaron in an interesting way despite the former being named as a different genus.
So yeah, that's why I find Faras' reply more interesting than a series of "Nanutyrannus doesn't exist".

SRF

Quote from: Kapitaenosavrvs on July 15, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
Thank you very much, avatar_Faras @Faras! That was a lot of Work. And a great Read. Thanks.

avatar_SRF @SRF I do not know, but i always had all the PNSOs from these Stores in my shopping cart. Since it began in 2020 with the new Waves of Figures. They are now almost empty. My online Toy Store and Model Toy Center did delete them from the Store and reintegrated them with the new, more expensive Prices. :( I do not like that. Now PNSO is this "too expensive as a regular Maincompany" for me again. Like it was before the End of 2020. Plus VAT.

EDIT: I wrote Jurassic Toy Store on AE, after "we" here were told about this and they responded friendly and said they did not know and will investigate further. The Figure was also removed from their Store a few Days after it went bigger. The Package i recieved from them was fast and very well packed. But maybe others had different experiences.

Model Toy Center doesn't seem to sell the newer PNSO models at all anymore. My Online Toy Store still does, but the Nanotyrannus hasn't showed up there yet while it has at other stores. I guess I'll have to pick one of the other stores as they both seem legit according to you and avatar_Faelrin @Faelrin.

Still waiting for in hand pictures of the Nanotyrannus though...
But today, I'm just being father

Pachyventer


Kapitaenosavrvs

Quote from: SRF on July 16, 2021, 09:06:32 AM
Quote from: Kapitaenosavrvs on July 15, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
Thank you very much, avatar_Faras @Faras! That was a lot of Work. And a great Read. Thanks.

avatar_SRF @SRF I do not know, but i always had all the PNSOs from these Stores in my shopping cart. Since it began in 2020 with the new Waves of Figures. They are now almost empty. My online Toy Store and Model Toy Center did delete them from the Store and reintegrated them with the new, more expensive Prices. :( I do not like that. Now PNSO is this "too expensive as a regular Maincompany" for me again. Like it was before the End of 2020. Plus VAT.

EDIT: I wrote Jurassic Toy Store on AE, after "we" here were told about this and they responded friendly and said they did not know and will investigate further. The Figure was also removed from their Store a few Days after it went bigger. The Package i recieved from them was fast and very well packed. But maybe others had different experiences.

Model Toy Center doesn't seem to sell the newer PNSO models at all anymore. My Online Toy Store still does, but the Nanotyrannus hasn't showed up there yet while it has at other stores. I guess I'll have to pick one of the other stores as they both seem legit according to you and avatar_Faelrin @Faelrin.

Still waiting for in hand pictures of the Nanotyrannus though...

I see. Yesterday, they still had every one of the new Figures. Now they are gone. My online Toy Store still has them, but they stopped shipping to Germany now. Well. Yeah. Dinosaurcollecting. :( Farewell, PNSO. But they did that a couple of Times and then, they got back in the Store. We'll see. The Amazon US Marketing seems to be quite agressive. If there is any Relationship.

SRF

#2126
Quote from: Pachyventer on July 16, 2021, 09:33:58 AM
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7451153733

In-hand pics of the Nano-T.

Yeah that's litteraly "in hand"  :P



The scale detail seems to be much finer than on Wilson, it's more like the newer theropods actually.

Quote from: Kapitaenosavrvs on July 16, 2021, 09:47:32 AM
Quote from: SRF on July 16, 2021, 09:06:32 AM
Quote from: Kapitaenosavrvs on July 15, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
Thank you very much, avatar_Faras @Faras! That was a lot of Work. And a great Read. Thanks.

avatar_SRF @SRF I do not know, but i always had all the PNSOs from these Stores in my shopping cart. Since it began in 2020 with the new Waves of Figures. They are now almost empty. My online Toy Store and Model Toy Center did delete them from the Store and reintegrated them with the new, more expensive Prices. :( I do not like that. Now PNSO is this "too expensive as a regular Maincompany" for me again. Like it was before the End of 2020. Plus VAT.

EDIT: I wrote Jurassic Toy Store on AE, after "we" here were told about this and they responded friendly and said they did not know and will investigate further. The Figure was also removed from their Store a few Days after it went bigger. The Package i recieved from them was fast and very well packed. But maybe others had different experiences.

Model Toy Center doesn't seem to sell the newer PNSO models at all anymore. My Online Toy Store still does, but the Nanotyrannus hasn't showed up there yet while it has at other stores. I guess I'll have to pick one of the other stores as they both seem legit according to you and avatar_Faelrin @Faelrin.

Still waiting for in hand pictures of the Nanotyrannus though...

I see. Yesterday, they still had every one of the new Figures. Now they are gone. My online Toy Store still has them, but they stopped shipping to Germany now. Well. Yeah. Dinosaurcollecting. :( Farewell, PNSO. But they did that a couple of Times and then, they got back in the Store. We'll see. The Amazon US Marketing seems to be quite agressive. If there is any Relationship.

I was wondering as well if one has to do with the other. At least the prices on Amazon and AliExpress are now the same, with the advantage of AliExpress that shipping costs are still a lot lower, or even for free.

I'm glad I've picked up most of the figures I really wanted before the new VAT for the EU came in. Still I'm probably going to pick up some figures in the near future. This JuviNano, the new T. Rex and the Triceratops that is already teased are all very welcome on my shelf.
But today, I'm just being father

Faras

#2127
Thank you avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres for your kind words!  :)

Nano/juvenile rex hasn't appeared in retailer stores on Taobao yet. There's sale going on in official PNSO store (about 5h left), retailers might put it up once sale ends.

Nano/juvenile rex has poor counts despite being released during sale: 37 were sold in offical store in 43h - iirc ~40 Yutyrannus (majority got it before release in offical store), ~160 Tarbo and ~50 Torvo were sold in first 10h. Guess it would be worse if they advertised the figure as juvenile T. rex  :o

More in hand pics here: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/7451374525

Carnoking

Turned out looking pretty good in my opinion.

Psittacoraptor

Quote from: Faras on July 15, 2021, 10:34:40 PM
*scratches head* hmm thought enforcing regional pricing policies on registered retailers was a common practice globally? Did some international shopping before, big online stores from Europe, the US and China all had listed prices following regional pricing policies on stuffs like mattress, shoes, electronic stuffs and PC parts. Those well established stores on AliExpress probably signed contracts with PNSO to get bulk supplies at low price which bind them to some rules. Tho ofc individual retailers, or middlemen who resell items purchased from Chinese stores and signed nothing are not bound to regional pricing :)

hmm since price is becoming a serious issue, maybe it's worth asking if those sellers on AliExpress would help you place orders in their Chinese Taobao stores so they can sell figures cheaper without breaking some rules? Shady practice... but many would be willing. Or order directly from Taobao, just found a guide here: https://www.howtotao.com/buy-from-taobao/ (though probably need to contact PNSO for exchange when figures are bought from Taobao)

Spoiler

I'm not sure about regional pricing but the PNSO figures on Aliexpress are now the same price as PNSO's official Amazon store. I assume those are PNSO's MSRP's, I've never heard of retailers being bound to MRSP's, except for books in some countries. Even products from companies who heavily control prices, like Apple and Nintendo, go on sale regularly, and have different prices at different retailers. Whatever the reason, I seriously doubt these substantial price increases will help their sales.

Taobao unfortunately doesn't ship to Europe, I'd have to use a proxy service, which is too much of a hassle. They do ship to North America, Australia and several Asian countries, so that might be option for collectors from those places. Thanks for the links, though!

Quote from: SRF on July 16, 2021, 10:24:27 AM
Yeah that's litteraly "in hand"  :P


Now we know why it's called "Nano".  :) I kind of want it as a baby for Wilson.

avatar_Kapitaenosavrvs @Kapitaenosavrvs My Online Toy Store still ships to Germany, I just checked.



SRF

I do like Logan, but seeing him next to the Pachycephalosaurus makes me realize how small he really is. Including the VAT, I'll have to pay even a little more for Logan compared to what I've paid for PNSO's Yutyrannus. And that already includes a discount of 3 euros that I get from AliExpress. 

Makes it hard to pull the trigger on this one.
But today, I'm just being father

SidB

Logan's a perfect juvenile to accompany Wilson (and Andrea) for my diorama.  I'd like to have some rex chicks too, but I'm not holding my breath for them. Since I'm basically buying nothing except PNSO pieces now, I've sprung for this figure, no regrets.

Faras

Quote from: Psittacoraptor on July 16, 2021, 12:32:32 PM
I'm not sure about regional pricing but the PNSO figures on Aliexpress are now the same price as PNSO's official Amazon store. I assume those are PNSO's MSRP's, I've never heard of retailers being bound to MRSP's, except for books in some countries. Even products from companies who heavily control prices, like Apple and Nintendo, go on sale regularly, and have different prices at different retailers. Whatever the reason, I seriously doubt these substantial price increases will help their sales.

Taobao unfortunately doesn't ship to Europe, I'd have to use a proxy service, which is too much of a hassle. They do ship to North America, Australia and several Asian countries, so that might be option for collectors from those places. Thanks for the links, though!

Listing prices of Apple and Nintendo are quite a bit higher from registered mainland China retailers compared to Hongkong/NA/Europe even after adding full custom tax, MRSP is actually why you can find plenty of Chinese abroad on crazy shopping spree (some do make a living by reselling) :D But yeah stores can indeed decide on their own discounts and companies probably allow a price range for each continent/region. Prices from Europe/NA/NZ/AU are usually similar so MRSP isn't noticeable :)

Nope higher prices probably wouldn't help, though somehow it feels like PNSO is experimenting with higher prices to see if people would buy it. Hmm in case some might want to use Taobao (half Amazon price), buying in bulk during regular/monthly 10-15% off sales might be the best option for saving shipping fee. And my pleasure :))

Kapitaenosavrvs

avatar_Psittacoraptor @Psittacoraptor Thank you, just checked. Seems to depend on the... model? :D


Psittacoraptor

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avatar_Kapitaenosavrvs @Kapitaenosavrvs OK, that is very strange. None of the bigger models can be shipped. It can't be because of size or value because all the bigger, more expensive Nanmu figures can be shipped. It seems PNSO really doesn't want our € anymore. Money saved, I guess!

I want the Kronosaurus and Andrea (if she's different enough from Wilson). Hopefully shipping to Germany will be reinstated when they release.

avatar_Faras @Faras Oh, there are big differences between NA and EU prices, especially with electronics like Apple and Nintendo. We tend to pay a hefty premium here in Europe. But it's interesting that some things are cheaper in China and others more expensive. I noticed Safari and Collecta are very expensive on Aliexpress compared to EU, for example.

Faras

#2135
avatar_Psittacoraptor @Psittacoraptor Ah yeah sorry forgot about that, most electronics are indeed cheaper in NA, tho iirc prices for Oral-B toothbrushes were cheaper in EU. Yeah safari dinos cost about as much as non-Museum PNSO and 1:40 CollectA dinos are nearly as pricy as Museum line. Seems non-Chinese brands tend to be expensive here.

Bread

Yikes that Nano or juvi rex is small, and is the price really $40??? Well, that makes this figure an easy pass. Maybe in time I'll come back to this one as it still is a nice model.

SRF

Quote from: Bread on July 16, 2021, 03:55:21 PM
Yikes that Nano or juvi rex is small, and is the price really $40??? Well, that makes this figure an easy pass. Maybe in time I'll come back to this one as it still is a nice model.

I think it's more like $30, plus whatever you have to pay for shipping (which is for free if you buy it at AliExpress).
But today, I'm just being father

Faras

#2138
Saw an interesting raptor (poster of these pics said it's about 10cm long) from Qualia Dinosaur Encyclopedia (5 figures, including a lying Triceratops)




More in hand pics without post processing here (decent poses, awful seamlines): https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7438868379

SidB

Quote from: SRF on July 16, 2021, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: Bread on July 16, 2021, 03:55:21 PM
Yikes that Nano or juvi rex is small, and is the price really $40??? Well, that makes this figure an easy pass. Maybe in time I'll come back to this one as it still is a nice model.

I think it's more like $30, plus whatever you have to pay for shipping (which is for free if you buy it at AliExpress).
$30 for me.

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