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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1220 on: January 20, 2020, 01:51:44 AM »
Thank you for compiling that list together. That will certainly be very handy to use, especially when I might be curious about comparisons or scale of a particular figure.
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1221 on: January 20, 2020, 08:17:07 AM »
A really handy reference index - thank you!

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1222 on: January 20, 2020, 08:37:58 AM »
I tried out the list- it's really cool that you don't have to go through your whole thread to find something because these links open up your thread at that particular post (except the Pawpawsaurus- it just opens at page 35 but the Pawpawsaurus isn't in that page).

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1223 on: January 20, 2020, 12:40:46 PM »
Thanks for the list, @Halichoeres ! I was really curious to read what figures did you have in your collection! Im sure that it will become an important reference list in the forum, considering that you always search for the best models.

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1224 on: January 21, 2020, 12:21:03 AM »
Thanks, everyone--I'm happy that people will find it useful!

I always love going through this thread, a lovely collection with great goals, lovely right-ups and great photography.
Also thank you for convincing me not to get the Icthyosaurus, and to get the others, not that you knew you were doing so lol. Can't wait to get these, especially the Edmontosaurus and Deinonychus
Speaking of which, do you know how the Deinonychus and Velociraptor look together?
Thanks so much for the kind words! I am not sure where my Velociraptor is (so many things are still in boxes), but when it surfaces I'll try to remember to snap a photo of the two together if nobody beats me to it.

I tried out the list- it's really cool that you don't have to go through your whole thread to find something because these links open up your thread at that particular post (except the Pawpawsaurus- it just opens at page 35 but the Pawpawsaurus isn't in that page).

Interesting, thanks for letting me know. I've confirmed that the link as copied was correct. However, you're right that it doesn't go where it ought to go. I think it might be because the thread contains/contained comments that have since been deleted, which messes up the numbering system. If so, I might have a lot of links to fix! I've adjusted that one so that it just goes to the page where I show Pawpawsaurus, rather than the specific post--best I can do for now. Thanks again!
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1225 on: January 21, 2020, 11:44:03 PM »
Bilaterians of the Jurassic!


Mattel Ornitholestes (Jurassic World)
Scale: 1:10
Released: 2020
Upper Jurassic Laurasia
Like Deinonychus, Ornitholestes has been replaced in my collection several times, except in this case it wasn't because there were good versions with minor flaws, but because almost every version was ugly as sin. This one from Mattel is far from ideal, but it doesn't have the erroneous nose horn, and with the exception of its nakedness it roughly resembles a coelurosaur. Replaces both my DeAgostini and my ThunderBeasts versions.


Incredibly, in the space of about a year, Mattel has single-handedly purged Multi Toy (ThunderBeasts) from my collection. An impressive feat! There are lots of other minor companies I'd like to see gone from my shelves, too--get on it, toy companies!


These are not without a certain charm, but it's honestly a type of charm I can do without.


Safari Ltd Dilophosaurus
Scale: 1:35
Sculptor: Doug Watson
Released: 2020
This might be the first Dilophosaurus since the Carnegie pair to actually be around 1:35-1:40; almost all other versions, including Battat's, Rebor's, and Papo's, are much larger. It makes for a better scale match for other Jurassic dinosaurs, although most other Jurassic dinosaur figures are from much later in the period. There is very, very little from the early Jurassic. I like this relaxed but alert posture. Unlike Patrx's copy, mine doesn't stand with the tail aloft, but I don't have a problem with the tail tip resting on the shelf. Replaces my Papo version.


Geoworld Perisphinctes
Scale: 1:6 or so, specimens vary
Released: 2001?
Middle-Upper Jurassic 
That's right, Geoworld! A user on STS found this little magnet figurine, part of a set, in a shop in Florida, and bought sets for me and a couple of other members. The package said "Jurassic Sea Creatures," and by gum, they were really all Jurassic sea creatures! At first I thought, well, this is a promising new direction for Geoworld. But the package said 2001, and when I opened it, there was an odd odor like something slightly burnt. I surmise that it's what PVC fumes smell like after almost two decades in a blister pack. Maybe this is what Geoworld used to be?


Similar in scale to the CollectA Australiceras.


Geoworld Stenopterygius
Scale: 1:45
Released: 2001?
Lower Jurassic
This was the part of the Jurassic Sea Creatures set I was least excited about, but it happens that I don't have a Stenopterygius (ROM made one, and some Ichthyosaurus figures are probably a better match for Stenopterygius). So I'm keeping it for now... 


...even though the reverse side is missing half a trunk and both right limbs. What's odd to me, assuming this was intended for display on refrigerators, is that they gave this side an eye, nose, and mouth! You can also clearly see the Geoworld imprint, although no year is stamped on the figure.


It turns out that it's roughly to scale with some of my other Lower Jurassic ichthyosaurs. (The size differences are slightly exaggerated by differences in depth of field.)


Geoworld Cidaris
Scale: 1:3-1:7 depending on species
Released: 2001?
Upper Triassic-Recent
This slate-pencil urchin is the part of the set that I got most excited about. The genus Cidaris still has living representatives, although none display this color palette, as far as I'm aware. Cidaris was definitely part of the Jurassic fauna of what is now western Eurasia, including the common C. elegans (not to be confused with the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans commonly used in developmental genetics research!). Unlike the ammonite and ichthyosaur, this was designed to rest perpendicularly on a metal surface, so it's easy to incorporate into a shelf display. I'm basing the scale estimate on the handful of photos I could find of the tests of fossil Cidaris that included scale bars. 


With the Bullyland medusa. If the jelly represents Rhizostomites, they're contemporaries. Fun fact I learned while reading up on Cidaris: "urchin" is an old word for a hedgehog, so sea urchins are sea hedgehogs!


With Kaiyodo's Pleurocystites; these two were separated by at least 190 million years. As far as I'm aware, this is every toy prehistoric echinoderm that has ever been made. I would love to see CollectA make a Seirocrinus, the gigantic Jurassic sea lily that floated across the ocean attached to driftwood. I mean, I'd love to see anybody make one, but it's the sort of oddball thing CollectA specifically might be into.

If this set of magnets was really made in 2001, then that year was probably the best year ever for collectors of strange taxa, with Kaiyodo's Dinotales 1 & 2, Yowie's Lost Kingdoms B, and the ROM Primeval Predators kit all debuting. That also makes the recent state of Geoworld seem even sadder--evidently they used to be this awesome! I have no idea if additional magnet sets were made, but I certainly haven't been able to find any on the Internet. If anybody knows about the extent of this line, I'd love to hear about it. I think these merit a review on the blog, which I'll gladly tackle unless @bmathison1972  is planning to do so.
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1226 on: January 21, 2020, 11:59:43 PM »
Tim, please review these on the blog if you'd like. I had no plans on doing so. Thanks!

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1227 on: January 22, 2020, 09:25:29 AM »
I'm actually very glad Mattel is delving into doing some obscure species (even if fragmentary), despite not being completely accurate  (though probably the 'best' we have for now, until another company would care to give them some proper justice), and even if most are from various materials surrounding the films, versus being in the film itself (such as from the websites, from the novels, etc), though there are certainly a few that have not, which is very nice too. I do wonder if you will attempt to get the Battle Damage Gasosaurus too? It's honestly the first time I've heard of the genus, so I can only wonder if this is the first figure of it or not, that will be out there. I'm really hoping we're getting a Scutosaurus from them this year as well, though at least Safari Ltd's retired one still holds up (and makes for a nice prey for the also retired Inostrancevia).

Surprisingly those Geoworld figures you got there don't look too bad at all, and I think this is honestly the first urchin toy (prehistoric or otherwise) I've seen yet, which I suppose is too bad as they are pretty interesting creatures. Come to think of it crinoids really need more figure representation too. They are certainly some of the most ancient animals, and yet are also sadly neglected much of the time, despite still being around today, and well I think they are quite beautiful too. Also back on topic of the Geoworld stuff you have there, the ichthyosaur magnet is certainly a charmer of sorts. I can't say I've ever seen a magnet based on one of those before.
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1228 on: January 23, 2020, 11:41:27 PM »
Tim, please review these on the blog if you'd like. I had no plans on doing so. Thanks!

Thanks! I have a backlog but I think I can get to them all soon.

I'm actually very glad Mattel is delving into doing some obscure species (even if fragmentary), despite not being completely accurate  (though probably the 'best' we have for now, until another company would care to give them some proper justice), and even if most are from various materials surrounding the films, versus being in the film itself (such as from the websites, from the novels, etc), though there are certainly a few that have not, which is very nice too. I do wonder if you will attempt to get the Battle Damage Gasosaurus too? It's honestly the first time I've heard of the genus, so I can only wonder if this is the first figure of it or not, that will be out there. I'm really hoping we're getting a Scutosaurus from them this year as well, though at least Safari Ltd's retired one still holds up (and makes for a nice prey for the also retired Inostrancevia).

Surprisingly those Geoworld figures you got there don't look too bad at all, and I think this is honestly the first urchin toy (prehistoric or otherwise) I've seen yet, which I suppose is too bad as they are pretty interesting creatures. Come to think of it crinoids really need more figure representation too. They are certainly some of the most ancient animals, and yet are also sadly neglected much of the time, despite still being around today, and well I think they are quite beautiful too. Also back on topic of the Geoworld stuff you have there, the ichthyosaur magnet is certainly a charmer of sorts. I can't say I've ever seen a magnet based on one of those before.

Yeah, I'm glad they're doing some new taxa, if only so kids will know there's more to life than Ty***nosaurus. I read both books when I was young, but I've only watched 3 of the 5 main movies, and I haven't consumed any of the ancillary media. So I'm not really plugged into what parts of the universe each species is from, but I'm definitely happy to replace an extremely inaccurate figure with a moderately inaccurate figure. I actually have a toy that was sold as Gasosaurus (by Ausini), but it looks more like a very crude Carnotaurus. It is very ugly, so I do plan to get the JW version unless by some chance PNSO or somebody releases one beforehand. Scutosaurus would be fun, for sure, although I'm very happy with the Safari version I have.

I was surprised, too, this is absolutely the finest product I've seen from Geoworld. I agree a crinoid would be really cool! There might be some extant ones in plastic by Ikimon or Kaiyodo, I'm not really sure. But of course they were much more diverse in the Paleozoic, being crunched on by primitive ratfishes and placoderms. Pleurocystites is the closest thing I know of, being a stem-crinoid.


PS I've edited the first post with some fixed links (some are surely still incorrect) as well as a list of Cenozoic animals. It actually is about 40% Yowies, just what I estimated. It's probably missing things, though, and naturally it doesn't have links because I don't collect Cenozoic critters!
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1229 on: January 29, 2020, 05:21:37 PM »
Speaking of which, do you know how the Deinonychus and Velociraptor look together?

@Gothmog the Baryonyx Here you go!




The Deinonychus is just a couple of centimeters longer, so they're definitely not to scale with each other.
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1230 on: January 29, 2020, 05:24:07 PM »
They look good together! :)

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« Reply #1231 on: January 29, 2020, 05:51:48 PM »
Over time Doug could do all dromaeosaurids as BoTM has done in PVC version and the same thing about ceraptosides would be great to have both Safari and BoTM versions to choose from.

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« Reply #1232 on: January 29, 2020, 09:43:54 PM »
@Halichoeres thanks, even though they're not even close to the same scale they do look great together with those different but still natural poses.
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« Reply #1233 on: January 29, 2020, 10:00:27 PM »
Nice couple of prehistoric raptors. Thanks Halichoeres for sharing.

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1234 on: January 30, 2020, 05:50:51 PM »
I really hope we see a Utahraptor at some point as well, but I'm so glad these exist now.
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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1235 on: February 05, 2020, 03:47:11 AM »
Did I miss the Anatosaurus?

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1236 on: February 05, 2020, 08:18:38 PM »
Did I miss the Anatosaurus?
@brontosauruschuck Good question! I usually only have one figure per genus, and Anatosaurus is now regarded as a synonym of Edmontosaurus annectens. My current Edmontosaurus is the recent Safari version, which is Edmontosaurus regalis. There are a few figures that were sold as Anatosaurus or Anatotitan back when those names were current, and I think the Geoworld Edmontosaurus could be interpreted as E. annectens at a stretch, but I haven't previously felt like I needed both species in my collection. The head dimensions are a little different, and it's possible that E. annectens lacked the crest that E. regalis probably had, so maybe I should have them both represented. The best E. annectens is certainly Safari's "Anatotitan" from the Sue at the Field Museum line, but it's pretty darn small. I'm not sure what the best one would be at a larger scale, they're all pretty out of date.

PS I've reorganized my invertebrates in the list on the first page, as I think they were categorized too coarsely before. I've provisionally assigned Tullimonstrum to the Spiralia.
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« Reply #1237 on: February 06, 2020, 05:16:03 AM »
Did I miss the Anatosaurus?
@brontosauruschuck Good question! I usually only have one figure per genus, and Anatosaurus is now regarded as a synonym of Edmontosaurus annectens. My current Edmontosaurus is the recent Safari version, which is Edmontosaurus regalis. There are a few figures that were sold as Anatosaurus or Anatotitan back when those names were current, and I think the Geoworld Edmontosaurus could be interpreted as E. annectens at a stretch, but I haven't previously felt like I needed both species in my collection. The head dimensions are a little different, and it's possible that E. annectens lacked the crest that E. regalis probably had, so maybe I should have them both represented. The best E. annectens is certainly Safari's "Anatotitan" from the Sue at the Field Museum line, but it's pretty darn small. I'm not sure what the best one would be at a larger scale, they're all pretty out of date.

PS I've reorganized my invertebrates in the list on the first page, as I think they were categorized too coarsely before. I've provisionally assigned Tullimonstrum to the Spiralia.

Cool. I started doing some research for the Definately Dinos Anatosaurus review and I wanted to start by seeing what's the best one out there. I just read the extensive history of reclassification of E. annectens over on Wikipedia. Fun stuff. Should make for a neat review.

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1238 on: February 10, 2020, 11:07:48 PM »
Did I miss the Anatosaurus?
@brontosauruschuck Good question! I usually only have one figure per genus, and Anatosaurus is now regarded as a synonym of Edmontosaurus annectens. My current Edmontosaurus is the recent Safari version, which is Edmontosaurus regalis. There are a few figures that were sold as Anatosaurus or Anatotitan back when those names were current, and I think the Geoworld Edmontosaurus could be interpreted as E. annectens at a stretch, but I haven't previously felt like I needed both species in my collection. The head dimensions are a little different, and it's possible that E. annectens lacked the crest that E. regalis probably had, so maybe I should have them both represented. The best E. annectens is certainly Safari's "Anatotitan" from the Sue at the Field Museum line, but it's pretty darn small. I'm not sure what the best one would be at a larger scale, they're all pretty out of date.

PS I've reorganized my invertebrates in the list on the first page, as I think they were categorized too coarsely before. I've provisionally assigned Tullimonstrum to the Spiralia.

Cool. I started doing some research for the Definately Dinos Anatosaurus review and I wanted to start by seeing what's the best one out there. I just read the extensive history of reclassification of E. annectens over on Wikipedia. Fun stuff. Should make for a neat review.

I look forward to reading it!

Today's update: vertebrates of the Paleozoic!

Most of today's additions are from Kamyk (http://kamyk.pl/models/), a Polish workshop I happened across when they posted photos online of their vendor table at a gem show. They deal in fossils, replicas, and museum models. They had molds left over from some commissions and were selling casts. I ended up dropping one of the largest sums I've dropped as a collector, but I think you'll agree it was worth it. I reluctantly turned down an offer of a meter-long Ctenacanthus model, but if I were a rich man with a big house...


Kamyk Paramblypterus
Scale: 1:1
Sculptors: Jacek Major and Jarosław Kołodziejski
Permian
The Devonian always get credit for being the Age of Fishes, but fishes never went away. Particular lineages went extinct, though, so by the Permian many of the remaining fishes were actinopterygians belonging to a paraphyletic grade referred to as the 'palaeoniscoids.' There were hundreds of species, and as far as I know none has ever been made into a toy. So imagine my joy when I found a model for sale from Kamyk! They actually sent me two, so I have a tiny shoal.


I don't have anything else from the Permian at this scale, so I guess the Safari ammonite will have to fill in. I'm in the process of making bases for these models. This one is currently on a bamboo dowel, but I think a bicycle spoke might fit into the hole drilled in its belly.


Kamyk Diplocercides
Scale: 1:1
Upper Devonian
I almost didn't buy this one because in my haste I mistook it for a modern coelacanth (or gombessa, Latimeria chalumnae) based on the color scheme. Once I noticed that the proportions were wrong for a gombessa, I had to have it. I wish it didn't have this pattern, however--Diplocercides is not a particularly close relative of Latimeria and had a very different ecology. But stem-coelacanth figures are hard to come by, and the color scheme is literally my only complaint, as this is another beautiful piece. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find sculptor information on Kamyk's web site for this and a couple of other pieces.


Kamyk Kudjanowiaspis
Scale: 1:1
Sculptor: Ewa Stawiarska
Lower Devonian
Of my recent purchses, this one probably has the most difficult-to-pronounce name (at least for an English speaker). Kujdanowiaspis is an arthrodire, but not the gigantic ice-cream-scoop-of-death kind like Dunkleosteus. It was part of a weird family called the actinolepids, which had scales over the whole body, and spikes, perhaps to deter the bigger arthrodires. Look at the incredible texture on its armor plates! This is one of my favorite Kamyk pieces.


With the Artificial Animals Ateleaspis


And an atmospheric shot with the Diplocercides


Kamyk Weejasperaspis
Scale: about 2/3 life size
Lower Devonian
Perhaps the most whimsically named of my recent purchases. It means "shield from Wee Jasper," a town in Australia where, according to legend, a Scotsman found small green gemstones and declared that they must be "wee jasper." Anyway, Weejasperaspis is part of a primitive group of placoderms called Acanthothoraci ("spine-chested ones") because they bore prominent spines at the back of their thoracic shield. I think this one's spine is not prominent enough, and it probably resembles an arthrodire too much in other respects--acanthothoracids had a somewhat ratfish- or grenadier-like aspect. Despite that, this is a really lovely replica that I'm glad to have.


Chasing Pteraspis


Kamyk Diademaspis
Scale: 1:1
Sculptor: Marcin Widera
Upper Silurian-Lower Devonian
This is the figure that caught my eye and started my correspondence with Kamyk. It's one of the larger early osteostracans, so this is one of my largest pieces. At first I thought it might be a Cephalaspis, but the dorsal ridge, the eye placement, and the shape of the head shield are all different. These things just looked like alien spaceships, I love 'em.


With the Artificial Animals Ateleaspis


Ordovis Studio Coccosteus
Scale: 1:2 for a large specimen, 1:1 for a smaller one
Released: 2019, I think
Middle-Upper Devonian
Last but not least, this phenomenal little arthrodire. Ordovis is a Japanese workshop. I found them on Twitter, where they posted photos from their booth at an exposition, where they were selling replicas of coelacanths and a variety of Paleozoic animals. Most of the taxa they were offering were already represented in my collection, but not this one (and one more that's still in the works--stay tuned!). A lot of Dunkleosteus restorations have their rear halves modeled after this animal, which has been preserved in its entirety, unlike its larger relative. But the head shape is pretty different, which is captured nicely in this model. And of course, this smallish animal is a pretty unreliable way to try to infer the shape of an animal thousands of times more massive. On another note, I wish all fish models came with bases like this! The same goes for flying pterosaurs.


With the Paleozoo Remigolepis and Kaiyodo Psychopyge
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In the kingdom of the blind, better take public transit. Well, in the kingdom of the sighted, too, really--almost everyone is a terrible driver.

My attempt to find the best toy of every species: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3390.0

My trade/sale/wishlist thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3299.0

Sometimes I draw pictures: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=4856.0

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Re: The best figure of every species, according to Halichoeres
« Reply #1239 on: February 11, 2020, 08:04:19 AM »
The prehistoric fish of that group that I like the most is the diademaspis is a very curious and exotic fish.