Big search for Loch Ness Monster

[dragon53]

LINK: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/loch-ness-monster/2023/08/26/id/1132172/?ns_mail_uid=241ecb8a-c62a-40ba-96e2-00f4b6204628&ns_mail_job=DM514899_08262023&s=acs&dkt_nbr=0101028l3yuw

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Honestly I think it's nice to have something we don't know everything about. One day I'm sure they will be able to scan every rock and pebble in the entire loch and that will put an end to it all.

[DinoToyForum]

Honestly I think it's nice to have something we don't know everything about. One day I'm sure they will be able to scan every rock and pebble in the entire loch and that will put an end to it all.

No, it will never ever ever end.

[BlueKrono]

When they did that DNA survey of the water that pretty much closed the book on anything reptilian being in the Loch. I'd bet on the sightings being Wels catfish. They can potentially reach lengths of 14 ft. Just enormous animals. Would explain why they don't need to come up for air several times a day too.

[DinoToyForum]

When they did that DNA survey of the water that pretty much closed the book on anything reptilian being in the Loch. I'd bet on the sightings being Wels catfish. They can potentially reach lengths of 14 ft. Just enormous animals. Would explain why they don't need to come up for air several times a day too.

That study didn't find any catfish DNA in the loch. It found lots of eel DNA though.

[BlueKrono]

When they did that DNA survey of the water that pretty much closed the book on anything reptilian being in the Loch. I'd bet on the sightings being Wels catfish. They can potentially reach lengths of 14 ft. Just enormous animals. Would explain why they don't need to come up for air several times a day too.

That study didn't find any catfish DNA in the loch. It found lots of eel DNA though.

Oh! That's news to me. I thought they introduced them into the Loch during the Victorian Era? 

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Honestly I think it's nice to have something we don't know everything about. One day I'm sure they will be able to scan every rock and pebble in the entire loch and that will put an end to it all.

No, it will never ever ever end.

I hope not, but I'm talking " someday" even a 100 years from now. 

[DinoToyForum]

Honestly I think it's nice to have something we don't know everything about. One day I'm sure they will be able to scan every rock and pebble in the entire loch and that will put an end to it all.

No, it will never ever ever end.

I hope not, but I'm talking " someday" even a 100 years from now. 

Never! It's not an evidence-based belief for many people in the first place so some people will always have faith. In any case, the tourism industry there will never let it die.

[Papi-Anon]

Looking forward to all the photos, radar scans, etc of sturgeons, eels, and long-dead trees.

But we could always be surprised.

If anything, Champ is a comparatively more worthwhile cryptid mission due to there actually being hydrophone evidence of...something...with echolocation living in Lake Champlain.

[laticauda]

Legends are hard to die.  I feel the Nessie is starting to go away though. 

[stargatedalek]

When they did that DNA survey of the water that pretty much closed the book on anything reptilian being in the Loch. I'd bet on the sightings being Wels catfish. They can potentially reach lengths of 14 ft. Just enormous animals. Would explain why they don't need to come up for air several times a day too.

That study didn't find any catfish DNA in the loch. It found lots of eel DNA though.

Was there and sturgeon DNA? I recall that being a pretty likely seeming option based on the very early descriptions.

[DinoToyForum]

When they did that DNA survey of the water that pretty much closed the book on anything reptilian being in the Loch. I'd bet on the sightings being Wels catfish. They can potentially reach lengths of 14 ft. Just enormous animals. Would explain why they don't need to come up for air several times a day too.

That study didn't find any catfish DNA in the loch. It found lots of eel DNA though.

Was there and sturgeon DNA? I recall that being a pretty likely seeming option based on the very early descriptions.

""So there's no shark DNA in Loch Ness based on our sampling. There is also no catfish DNA in Loch Ness based on our sampling. We can't find any evidence of sturgeon either," Professor Gemmell says."
From here: https://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/otago717609.html

[Eatmycar]

Is it possible sturgeon simply went extinct in the loch?

[Fossilized-Rubber]

I'd bet on the sightings being Wels catfish. They can potentially reach lengths of 14 ft. Just enormous animals.

Curious, I looked up what a Wel's catfish looks like. Terrifying! The irony is that when I saw this picture I was less interested in the actual photo of the living animal and more about what the shadow in the murky distance could be. If this isn't the perfect illustration of the human flaw which makes perpetual belief in the Loch Ness Monster possible, I don't know what is.

[DinoToyForum]

But the study didn't find any catfish DNA in Loch Ness.

[Fossilized-Rubber]

But the study didn't find any catfish DNA in Loch Ness.

I didn't say they did, I said the desire to look beyond actual explanations for shadowy images in the background is the human flaw which will make belief in the Loch Ness Monster perpetual.

[DinoToyForum]

But the study didn't find any catfish DNA in Loch Ness.

I didn't say they did, I said the desire to look beyond actual explanations for shadowy images in the background is the human flaw which will make belief in the Loch Ness Monster perpetual.

My mistake.

[Fossilized-Rubber]

But the study didn't find any catfish DNA in Loch Ness.

I didn't say they did, I said the desire to look beyond actual explanations for shadowy images in the background is the human flaw which will make belief in the Loch Ness Monster perpetual.

My mistake.

NP, It was a bit of an esoteric comment for me to make haha

[BlueKrono]

But the study didn't find any catfish DNA in Loch Ness.

Interesting, the more I read, the more the Victorian catfish sound anecdotal. If the DNA came back negative for them I suppose that rules out that possibility. Do you know if the results showed any sturgeon in the Loch?

[DinoToyForum]

But the study didn't find any catfish DNA in Loch Ness.

Interesting, the more I read, the more the Victorian catfish sound anecdotal. If the DNA came back negative for them I suppose that rules out that possibility. Do you know if the results showed any sturgeon in the Loch?

No:

""We can't find any evidence of sturgeon either" Professor Gemmell says."
From here: https://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/otago717609.html

I was curious to find out more about this interesting DNA study but couldn't find any published paper, so I contacted Professor Gemmell to ask if the study has been published anywhere. He replied to say that the study is not published yet but he is working on a paper.