HAOLONGGOOD - New for 2024

[Gwangi]

People, you don't need to quote all the pictures to make a one sentence remark. 

[thomasw100]

A clear plus is also that it appears now that Haolonggood follows rather closely the size estimates from the Molina-Perez and Larramendi book for their sauropods.

Then that would be a huge mistake, that book is great for beginners or casuals but is full of huge inaccuracies and bs (even more in the theropods book). Hell, theres even a derogatory insult based on the outhors name used by some paleontologist towards casuals "palenerds" that use and follow those eofauna books as sources.
 

Do you know of any better compilation of all sauropod species along with overviews summarizing specimens and size estimates?

It is clear that such a large compilation volume will have a number of errors, which is inevitable given the large amount of data and publications that were processed when producing the book.

But to label the entire work of the Eofauna group with derogatory terms and then move on to mock the name of one of the authors is totally out of place.

The bottom line is that length and weight estimates of extinct animals with often incomplete fossil material and only a few specimens found remains an elusive task. How representative is a the very limited sample we have (the few individuals) of a sauropod for the true within species variation?

In addition to the uncertainties related to the way length and weight estimates are made, there is considerable true biological variation within the population of a species to be expected.

Climate effects and availability of food sources will play a role in how big animals may grow and I would also expect that preservation bias will have an effect. To this may add sexual dimorphism which will be difficult to recognize from the fossils in many cases.

So the answer to how long and how heavy a sauropod was is complex, but when producing a model like Haolonggood have done with their beautiful Argentinosaurus they have to make a choice.

[Flaffy]

So the Huayangosaurus is locked behind an Argentinosaurus paywall...? Most perplexing decision.
a) given how it lived no where near the Huincul Formation.
b) it works perfectly fine as a standalone release.

Also, a bit confused on whether these two are meant to be the same? Because one clearly has more prominent markings and highlights than the other version.

[thomasw100]

One more picture has surfaced on Paleofiguras:

[thomasw100]

So the Huayangosaurus is locked behind an Argentinosaurus paywall...? Most perplexing decision.

Maybe this will be a special edition of the Huayangosaurus with a unique paint design?

[Flaffy]

So the Huayangosaurus is locked behind an Argentinosaurus paywall...? Most perplexing decision.

Maybe this will be a special edition of the Huayangosaurus with a unique paint design?

Someone asked, apparently not.

[Samrukia]

Also, a bit confused on whether these two are meant to be the same? Because one clearly has more prominent markings and highlights than the other version.

i also find this strange, initially there was a picture of 4 variants. all distinct

[Samrukia]

So the Huayangosaurus is locked behind an Argentinosaurus paywall...? Most perplexing decision.

Maybe this will be a special edition of the Huayangosaurus with a unique paint design?

Someone asked, apparently not.

they asked specifically about HLG-132 though, there's a room for interpretation

[Flaffy]

they asked specifically about HLG-132 though, there's a room for interpretation

Good point. Hopefully V @vampiredesign can clarify the situation with the Huayangosaurus and "missing" 4th vibrant paint variant.

One more picture has surfaced on Paleofiguras:

I feel like the lightbox promo pics of HLG-129 doesn't do the paint job justice. The tan markings against the dark body are quite attractive under more neutral lighting.

I'm also assuming HLG-131 is the limited edition version. Much like the Alamosaurus the limited edition version has the most conservative colour scheme out of the lot.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Wow. Gonna be a monster in every sense of the word.

[Pliosaurking]

What a beast! At least I'll be getting new shelves put up soon enough...

[Quiversaurus]

My goodness. And here I thought the Alamosaurus was large.

8 kilos of this whopping beast is mind-boggling - heck, that little girl looks like she could ride the sauropod!

[Manospundylus gigas]

A clear plus is also that it appears now that Haolonggood follows rather closely the size estimates from the Molina-Perez and Larramendi book for their sauropods.

Then that would be a huge mistake, that book is great for beginners or casuals but is full of huge inaccuracies and bs (even more in the theropods book). Hell, theres even a derogatory insult based on the outhors name used by some paleontologist towards casuals "palenerds" that use and follow those eofauna books as sources.
 

Do you know of any better compilation of all sauropod species along with overviews summarizing specimens and size estimates?

It is clear that such a large compilation volume will have a number of errors, which is inevitable given the large amount of data and publications that were processed when producing the book.

But to label the entire work of the Eofauna group with derogatory terms and then move on to mock the name of one of the authors is totally out of place.

The bottom line is that length and weight estimates of extinct animals with often incomplete fossil material and only a few specimens found remains an elusive task. How representative is a the very limited sample we have (the few individuals) of a sauropod for the true within species variation?

In addition to the uncertainties related to the way length and weight estimates are made, there is considerable true biological variation within the population of a species to be expected.

Climate effects and availability of food sources will play a role in how big animals may grow and I would also expect that preservation bias will have an effect. To this may add sexual dimorphism which will be difficult to recognize from the fossils in many cases.

So the answer to how long and how heavy a sauropod was is complex, but when producing a model like Haolonggood have done with their beautiful Argentinosaurus they have to make a choice.

For such an extense database theres nothing similar except maybe GSP's princeton field guides in a different way, which also has its well known pecularities, as always the best source are papaer, for sauropods Tschopp papers are particularly excellent.

Facts and figures books are good for having a long list of references, but while using them as source one must have to check the reference where they took the info from to contrast the data.
The main problem people have with them is how bad researched are in some aspects, and how bad their estimates are for some taxa (estimates with no reference at all, their own ones). For example, the sauropod book, it presents the specimen "MEET BP 1/5339" as an gigantic bipedal prosauropod, a crazy animal, twicw the size than any other bipedal sauropod. Well there isnt any museum or university with that abreviation "meet", the funny thing is that the only source where anybody can read about BP 1/5339 is a blog post in a paleontologist blog where he presents BP 1/5339 with the word Meet in the first sentence and a photo following it, like "Meet my grandma, the kindest human being on earth". Plus he stated that BP 1/5339 is most similar to Antetonitrus a quadrupedal prosauropod, not Aardonix like the book says, they heavily misinterpreted the text, the taxa are just from upper Elliot formation, not similar. BP isnt a crazy strange bipedal prosauropod, is a relative big cuadrupedal prosauropod, so there wouldnt be any record and wow factor. And the names misunderstanding is either they didnt understand the blog or they copy pasted quickly or both.

Theres also a problem of egos because Molina Perez hasnt studied paleontology and some paleontologist dont take that very well, just in case some calls you "molinero" (used mainly in south american circles) is being disrespectful with you guys.

And for HLG Argentinosaurus, my personal favorite variant is also the one that has dissapeared, that grey? with a beautiful white line on the sides.

[Samrukia]

And for HLG Argentinosaurus, my personal favorite varaint is also the one that has dissapeared, that grey? with a beautiful white line on the sides, the one alongside the little girl.

that one is still here, HLG-129
missing one is 2nd in a row of four

[vampiredesign]

HLG-129 It has white striped lines on the side. There are only three colors, and the other one is a lot of other samples. We have designed many colors and patterns for the samples, and we will screen them out. HLG-132 The current plan is not to retail，It is a gift ordered, and it will be cancelled after a certain period of time. so sorry.After the order is completed, it will no longer be given as a gift.

[Manospundylus gigas]

And for HLG Argentinosaurus, my personal favorite varaint is also the one that has dissapeared, that grey? with a beautiful white line on the sides, the one alongside the little girl.

that one is still here, HLG-129
missing one is 2nd in a row of four

Yep thought they were the same with different aplication of the line and  129 was the blue one with very subtle sideline. They look very different from one image to another, I would never have thought blue and the one with the girl were the same variant.

[Samrukia]

HLG-129 It has white striped lines on the side. There are only three colors, and the other one is a lot of other samples. We have designed many colors and patterns for the samples, and we will screen them out. HLG-132 The current plan is not to retail，It is a gift ordered, and it will be cancelled after a certain period of time. so sorry.After the order is completed, it will no longer be given as a gift.

thanks for clarification. as i understand HLG-132 is a limited time offering, but will there be other Huayangosaurus versions to buy separately?

[vampiredesign]

HLG-132 Unfortunately, there are no other colors available.This species will not be sold separately.The current plan of the company.

[Samrukia]

HLG-132 Unfortunately, there are no other colors available.This species will not be sold separately.The current plan of the company.

oh i see.
thank you for these releases! you rock!

[Carnoking]

Well, the Argetinosaurus is indeed magnificent but it's a shame to hear about the Huayangosaurus. Given the massive size of this model, I was thinking it might be best to wait until Happy Hen Toys has them in stock to do a domestic order rather than pay to have such a big piece shipped over seas but I imagine by then the Huayangosaurus promo will be done.

Not sure it's a figure I'd want badly enough to immediately order the Argentinosaurus and stomach paying the international shipping costs though...