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Haolonggood - New for 2025

Started by Halichoeres, January 03, 2025, 09:22:18 PM

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Sim

But if you don't mind having a lipless Maip in your collection, why would you mind having a lipless Tyrannosaurus? ????  Also there was the complaint that Haolonggood should be consistent with lips, yet no-one made that complaint about CollectA?


DefinitelyNOTDilo

Quote from: Sim on March 11, 2025, 07:55:10 PMWhat I don't understand is why people are upset about a lipless Haolonggood Tyrannosaurus when no-one was upset about the CollectA Maip being lipless.  Is it because the Maip is a mediocre figure?

Moreso that we didn't have a Maip yet, so any figure was welcome regardless of potential inaccuracies. We have so many good Rex figures at this point that the standard is much higher.

Flaffy

Quote from: David96 on March 11, 2025, 06:11:07 PMGuys ffs that account is a fan page from someone who has no relation at all with Haolonggood, it's as far from any official HLG statment as anything we can claim here in this comment section  ::)

I recall hearing somewhere on the grapevine that they're "friends" with HLG Elsa?

Turkeysaurus

I guess collectively we are waiting for a definitive T.rex at this point.

Something that has Eofauna accuracy but with a PNSO/Haolonggood level quality.

So lipless feels like seeing a little fly in a delicious soup... a stain on a clean sheet...a beautiful person with a rotten breath.

I think that's also why people unbothered with collecta maip. That's a homeless guy with a bad breath.  ::D (i'm joking but you know what i mean)

Duna

Quote from: Flaffy on March 11, 2025, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: David96 on March 11, 2025, 06:11:07 PMGuys ffs that account is a fan page from someone who has no relation at all with Haolonggood, it's as far from any official HLG statment as anything we can claim here in this comment section  ::)

I recall hearing somewhere on the grapevine that they're "friends" with HLG Elsa?
Yes, he is friends with Elsa. His information is first hand.

Flaffy

Quote from: Sim on March 11, 2025, 08:23:38 PMBut if you don't mind having a lipless Maip in your collection, why would you mind having a lipless Tyrannosaurus? ????  Also there was the complaint that Haolonggood should be consistent with lips, yet no-one made that complaint about CollectA?

Apples to oranges comparison.

And for me personally:
Quote from: Flaffy on March 11, 2025, 10:41:13 AMAnd Tyrannosaurus isnt an enticing enough genus for me to ignore scientific discrepancies like this.

Elengassen

Quote from: Sim on March 11, 2025, 07:55:10 PMWhat I don't understand is why people are upset about a lipless Haolonggood Tyrannosaurus when no-one was upset about the CollectA Maip being lipless.  Is it because the Maip is a mediocre figure?

Personally I was disappointed by the Maip being lipless (although also relieved, in a way, as I have a lot of figures to catch up on and it's a good excuse not to buy it). I also don't think it's mediocre; it's better than several of CollectA's recent theropods.
One day we will know the truth about Spinosaurus... but not today.

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Sim

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 11, 2025, 10:00:28 PMI guess collectively we are waiting for a definitive T.rex at this point.

Something that has Eofauna accuracy but with a PNSO/Haolonggood level quality.
Okay.  But I wonder if any figure will ever be definitive.  It seems like for any figure there will always be something to complain about.  You mention Eofauna accuracy, but as we saw recently its musculature has been criticised.  So what if Haolonggood or PNSO made a Tyrannosaurus with that level of accuracy?  Would it still not be satisfying?

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 11, 2025, 10:00:28 PMSo lipless feels like seeing a little fly in a delicious soup... a stain on a clean sheet...a beautiful person with a rotten breath.
If someone really thinks that I'd argue they are spoilt with regards to Tyrannosaurus figures.  I wonder if there is this in our hobby..

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 11, 2025, 10:00:28 PMI think that's also why people unbothered with collecta maip. That's a homeless guy with a bad breath.  ::D (i'm joking but you know what i mean)
Ha ha!  I can consider it that without joking!

Quote from: Flaffy on March 11, 2025, 10:16:37 PMApples to oranges comparison.
I don't understand what you mean.  But thanks for re-posting that part of your post, it makes sense.

suspsy

I'm going to say it again: I do indeed believe that there comes a certain point where pointing out scientific inaccuracies just becomes pedantic and rather pointless. I did read through that critique about the Eofauna T. rex's musculature that was posted earlier in the thread and my response was simply "Ehh, whatever." It's a toy. There are life-sized sculptures and skeletal mounts in major museums that have more inaccuracies.

As far as I'm concerned, it and the BotM T. rexes are the definitive ones for now.
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Turkeysaurus

Quote from: Sim on March 11, 2025, 10:25:57 PM
Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 11, 2025, 10:00:28 PMI guess collectively we are waiting for a definitive T.rex at this point.

Something that has Eofauna accuracy but with a PNSO/Haolonggood level quality.
Okay.  But I wonder if any figure will ever be definitive.  It seems like for any figure there will always be something to complain about.  You mention Eofauna accuracy, but as we saw recently its musculature has been criticised.  So what if Haolonggood or PNSO made a Tyrannosaurus with that level of accuracy?  Would it still not be satisfying?

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 11, 2025, 10:00:28 PMSo lipless feels like seeing a little fly in a delicious soup... a stain on a clean sheet...a beautiful person with a rotten breath.
If someone really thinks that I'd argue they are spoilt with regards to Tyrannosaurus figures.  I wonder if there is this in our hobby..

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on March 11, 2025, 10:00:28 PMI think that's also why people unbothered with collecta maip. That's a homeless guy with a bad breath.  ::D (i'm joking but you know what i mean)
Ha ha!  I can consider it that without joking!

Quote from: Flaffy on March 11, 2025, 10:16:37 PMApples to oranges comparison.
I don't understand what you mean.  But thanks for re-posting that part of your post, it makes sense.

I think we are very spoiled with magnificent T.rex figures from last few years. I mean you can see it from reactions to latest showanna T.rex. That would be considered a masterpiece not too long time ago. PNSO and other brands raised the bar really high for dinosaur toys, especially T.rex.

Eofauna problems (if it's true) are beyond most of our knowledge. It takes whole another level of understanding of anatomy since most of us still can't point out what's really wrong even after it's told.  :)) Lips however has become common knowledge for scientific accuracy ever since those papers are out. (not set in stone but it is expected)

Dino_W

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Quote from: suspsy on March 11, 2025, 11:24:09 PMI'm going to say it again: I do indeed believe that there comes a certain point where pointing out scientific inaccuracies just becomes pedantic and rather pointless. I did read through that critique about the Eofauna T. rex's musculature that was posted earlier in the thread and my response was simply "Ehh, whatever." It's a toy. There are life-sized sculptures and skeletal mounts in major museums that have more inaccuracies.

As far as I'm concerned, it and the BotM T. rexes are the definitive ones for now.
Honestly agreed. Like even though the researcher I talked to had issues with the Eofauna rex, at the end of the day it's still the best rex figure available for me. Most of the stuff he took issue with is completely unnoticeable on the actual model. Still, I would really like a lipped T. rex with PNSO/Haolonggood sculpt and paint quality that is accurately 1:35 scale. I do really like the colors of the Eofauna rex, but the paint apps just look a bit plasticky and toylike to me when compared to the PNSO and HLG figures on my shelf.

With all that said, the figures coming out today are those I could only dream of having as a kid. I would've loved to use the BOTM rex for stop-motion animations, or set up simple dioramas with the Eofauna rex the way I did with the Safari LTD toys.

David96

Quote from: suspsy on March 11, 2025, 11:24:09 PMI'm going to say it again: I do indeed believe that there comes a certain point where pointing out scientific inaccuracies just becomes pedantic and rather pointless. I did read through that critique about the Eofauna T. rex's musculature that was posted earlier in the thread and my response was simply "Ehh, whatever." It's a toy. There are life-sized sculptures and skeletal mounts in major museums that have more inaccuracies.

As far as I'm concerned, it and the BotM T. rexes are the definitive ones for now.

Why not apply that logic to lips then??? Cameron has much better proportions than Eofauna's and it's better in every regard, that's ceratinaly more important than superficial stuff such as arguable elements of soft tissue  ::)

thebermuda303

Funny how Haolonggood thread became the "best t rex battleground" lol
Still hope that hlg rex has lips. That greenish guy with white and black striped looks very nice so far


suspsy

Quote from: David96 on March 12, 2025, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: suspsy on March 11, 2025, 11:24:09 PMI'm going to say it again: I do indeed believe that there comes a certain point where pointing out scientific inaccuracies just becomes pedantic and rather pointless. I did read through that critique about the Eofauna T. rex's musculature that was posted earlier in the thread and my response was simply "Ehh, whatever." It's a toy. There are life-sized sculptures and skeletal mounts in major museums that have more inaccuracies.

As far as I'm concerned, it and the BotM T. rexes are the definitive ones for now.

Why not apply that logic to lips then??? Cameron has much better proportions than Eofauna's and it's better in every regard, that's ceratinaly more important than superficial stuff such as arguable elements of soft tissue  ::)

I do not agree with any of that.
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SidB

My initial reaction to a potential unlipped HLG rex was very negative. However, I'll now qualify that. IF the other elements of the anatomy are truly excellent in all respects, then I might consider biting the bullet , ordering the color of my choice, and sending it down to Bravo Models in Mexico to get it lipped, as I did with Cameron, with four other Tyrannosaurids, and am currently doing with the procumbent Andrea. A bit costly, but then, I am a rexophile (color me fanatical, I suppose).

Sim

I too don't tend to notice issues with musculature even after it's been pointed out.  And this applies to the REBOR lipped Tyrannosaurus too.  In terms of level of accuracy, I think the REBOR figure is tied with the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus, and it has PNSO/Haolonggood level of detail... and lips of course...  And while I'm on this, I think Eofauna's detail is fine too.

Samrukia

it's been >2 weeks since the first teaser already
V @vampiredesign please show us more  :)

Blade-of-the-Moon

#917
I keep checking this thread to see if pics have been posted and all I find is lip discussion lol  ;D

There is only around a 50% chance I'll get it anyway. It would need to really be a super improvement over my existing pieces.

Turkeysaurus

Colors will still make it very attractive nonetheless. (5. acceptence btw)


Rayeknor

Quote from: Sim on March 12, 2025, 03:08:35 PMI too don't tend to notice issues with musculature even after it's been pointed out.  And this applies to the REBOR lipped Tyrannosaurus too.  In terms of level of accuracy, I think the REBOR figure is tied with the Eofauna Tyrannosaurus, and it has PNSO/Haolonggood level of detail... and lips of course...  And while I'm on this, I think Eofauna's detail is fine too.

I agree. And in my opinion the Rebor kiss figure has the best production quality/finish out of them all, it is as of today my favorite tyrannosaurus figure and I'm looking forward to the prehistoric planet recolor coming in a couple months.

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