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JURASSIC WORLD: CHAOS THEORY

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Flaffy

Quote from: Pliosaurking on April 04, 2025, 08:07:10 AMJust finished the season I have sorta mixed feelings on it. I liked some of the new characters but some stuff I wasn't too sold on.

Likewise. Lots of coincidences and contrivances to get characters from Point A to Point B.

Episode 10
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was a big downer for me with how they killed off the Handler. Easily my favourite JW human antagonist. I certainly don't mind character deaths, heck with how high the stakes are I'm frankly surprised all members of the scooby doo gang are still alive. But I do mind sloppy writing, which there are plenty of across the entire CC/CT show.
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HD-man

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Quote from: Dilopho on April 03, 2025, 04:25:39 PMWatched it and my day is completely ruined

Same, but for a different reason.

Quote from: Dilopho on April 04, 2025, 12:00:23 AMThe spoiler:

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Handler dying, and in such a stupid way too... really, doing the Owen hand thing that everybody agrees is stupid? This character was so so brilliant, my favorite JP character of all..smart, weird, savage, cute, scary, really great for me and I became so attached, and now just gets killed off in a way that makes them look like a moron? I'm really upset
I feel like I wasted my time even being attached, and it was such an unneccessary death too
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No offense meant, but I think you misinterpreted what happened:

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1stly, we've known since s1 that Handler 1) was WAY better at communicating w/dinos (specifically, using her eyes & hands) than any other JP/JW character, & 2) was so strongly bonded w/her raptors that everything else (including her own job & health) was secondary. W/all that in mind, it makes sense that Handler 1) would have better luck taming a strange dino (in this case, Red) than any other JP/JW character, & 2) upon realizing how much danger her raptors were in, would risk her own life to save them (in this case, by trying to tame a stranger, less-tamable dino).

2ndly, the whole of s3 (arguably, the whole of CT) had clearly been building up to a final fight btwn Handler & Santos, so of course 1 of them was gonna kill the other.* The only other way was for French Intel to tranq the dinos & arrest the villains before said fight (which, as we saw, they tried & failed to do). Also, even if Handler had killed Santos 1st, the main characters wouldn't just let her get away after everything she had done. Also also, I'm not sure how much better French Intel would've fared against Handler w/her raptors (I.e. Even w/their guns & Santos's weaker raptor bond, they still got beat badly).

*In reference to "arguably": 1st, s1 introduced Handler & her ways; Then, s2 reintroduced Santos & her ways (which were shown to conflict somewhat w/Handler's ways).
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Joliezac

Just finished the show!

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I really love how they did the pyroraptor. Baby smoothie is adorable and I thought the scenes with the grandmother were great. I can't wait to see Smoothie meet up with with Bumpy. I find it funny how I have been way more invested in the show than any of the JW movies. The dinosaur scenes and characters are great.

I had a feeling the Handler was going to die, but I wasn't expecting them to kill her like that... Honestly disappointed in the way they did that. They could have just killed ghost and had her run away with the other raptors. Besides that, I love how they did her. The poor atrociraptors deserve a break and I hoped to see them escape with the Handler. I like how she was only loyal to her raptors and nobody else.

I assume there will be a 4th season since it ended on a cliffhanger and now we will have to see how they potentially rescue Bumpy. I'm honestly more excited for another season than Jurassic World Rebirth.
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HD-man

Quote from: HD-man on April 05, 2025, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Dilopho on April 03, 2025, 04:25:39 PMWatched it and my day is completely ruined

Same, but for a different reason.

To add to that...:
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To paraphrase J.D. from Scrubs ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4MS2m8sdcQ ), "I am so mad [about Yasammy] I can't even talk right now."

To quote Blue from Tumblr ( https://ace-t-rex-in-space.tumblr.com/post/779806636915195904/i-100-agree-with-this-take-season-3-spoilers-it ), "It was such a hit when the other two "couples" came to the dinner table all happy and then Yaz and Sammy like someone ripped their souls out[...]I feel like they have to get back together, it makes no sense if they don't especially when the ship is so widely loved by the creators, voice actors, and fans."

Again, to quote Blue from Tumblr ( https://ace-t-rex-in-space.tumblr.com/post/779808654715224064/i-truly-believe-kenji-needs-to-get-a-chance-to ), "I think [Brooklynn] needs to know the extent she has hurt the camp family. She needs to know how badly her death hurt everyone and then find out she was alive just to have her leave them like she did without contacting them again[...]They need to hear that she's sorry, and she needs to actually do something to fix the damage (repair Yasammy and win back Kenji's trust since she pretty much shattered it)"

To paraphrase Amelia from The Owl House ( www.instagram.com/jekraftbooks/reel/DGwWq2mui1M/ ), "If[...s4 is...]disappointing in any way, I will spend every day of my life trashing it!"
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Dilopho

Quote from: HD-man on April 05, 2025, 11:01:55 AMNo offense meant, but I think you misinterpreted what happened:

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1stly, we've known since s1 that Handler 1) was WAY better at communicating w/dinos (specifically, using her eyes & hands) than any other JP/JW character, & 2) was so strongly bonded w/her raptors that everything else (including her own job & health) was secondary. W/all that in mind, it makes sense that Handler 1) would have better luck taming a strange dino (in this case, Red) than any other JP/JW character, & 2) upon realizing how much danger her raptors were in, would risk her own life to save them (in this case, by trying to tame a stranger, less-tamable dino).

2ndly, the whole of s3 (arguably, the whole of CT) had clearly been building up to a final fight btwn Handler & Santos, so of course 1 of them was gonna kill the other.* The only other way was for French Intel to tranq the dinos & arrest the villains before said fight (which, as we saw, they tried & failed to do). Also, even if Handler had killed Santos 1st, the main characters wouldn't just let her get away after everything she had done. Also also, I'm not sure how much better French Intel would've fared against Handler w/her raptors (I.e. Even w/their guns & Santos's weaker raptor bond, they still got beat badly).

*In reference to "arguably": 1st, s1 introduced Handler & her ways; Then, s2 reintroduced Santos & her ways (which were shown to conflict somewhat w/Handler's ways).
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I've ruminated on it, I know exactly what you're saying and it makes sense..but come on, I know WHY she holds her hand out to Demon like that, I know she's trying to get that emotional connection to him and all... but I've already seen several people bashing it and calling her stupid, this is what I'm talking about.
The bit in Dominion where Demon and the Allosaurus are released from their cages and Owen sticks his hands out got CLOWNED on. It's one of the most notorious parts of the entire Malta sequence. People make fun of it all the time because it's such a ridiculous extension of the raptor hand moment.
Knowing that these ARE trained dinosaurs retroactively makes it less stupid, but they still thrust that hand thing onto Handler and most people just think it makes you look stupid.

But I'm just really salty, I didn't want her to die like THAT, especially not at such a moment. I had spent the last few months dreading this season coming out because I got suuper attached to the character and didn't want her to die. Soyona has all the raptors in Dominion, so I figured that because she's so bonded with them, Handler would die rather than hand them off to her. She would have a big battle on a shipping barge or something and fall into the ocean and be left behind, something like that.
So I was really pleasantly surprised when she actually lives through the handoff, that they made it work so well, and that she gets her big grand moment at the end...only to be killed so suddenly and for the raptors to just run off? It's so undignified and unsatisfying, I don't like it at all.

And what's with these raptors losing every fight they're in? They only really won against a single Pyroraptor, and even then they weren't going for a kill.

It's just heartbreaking for me, I can't tell you how upset I was at that stupid death. 
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As for the other thing...

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Sammy and Yaz breaking up, well, personally I'm not upset BY it in the show context because it's the kind of drama I find interesting, and it's almost certainly going to be resolved...but the amount of IRL CREEPS brought out by this have been insane, so many homophobes have been outright celebrating this and that makes me so upset and dissappointed.
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Just finished watching it myself, need a good rain day to sit and watch it all.

First impressions are it's still good, with a lot of surprises. I was over all happy with it.
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why are we still hiding main characters like Claire and Owen? Sort of thought they would run into Beta being shipped to Biosyn..maybe later?  That ending, yeah I felt bad for the handler by the point she was taken out. I REALLY thought Demon was gonna chomp Santos from behind ( you never had control that's the illusion! " ah well.  At least we saw Ghost and the rest survived that chase and escape by Owen and Co.
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Gwangi

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Watched the entire season and read through the comments. My thoughts...

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Overall, S3 was much better than S2 and on par with S1. I still think CC and CT are average in quality but this season had me hooked and looking forward to watching the story unfold, which CC never really did. CC felt more like a chore that I endured due to my love of the franchise. I actually enjoyed CT for the most part.

Like every other past season of CC and CT there were scenes that I found immensely frustrating. A couple that come to mind from this season...opening the Kentrosaurus cage inside of an airplane. I swear, these kids will DIE to save a a dinosaur. What a monumentally stupid thing to do. Later we get the kids herding the dinosaurs around Malta. It's just too ridiculous. I can tolerate a lot of goofy crap but this stunt jumps the shark for me. And Kenji leaving Smoothie with Nonna had me internally screaming. Thankfully that kind of stuff was not as frequent in CT as in CC.

Smoothie was adorable and I'm glad he got a lot of screen time. The show is worth watching just for Smoothie.

I really enjoyed most of what took place in Italy at Ben's girlfriend's house. The smaller story that took place there, dealing with Nonna's dino-phobia, the utilization of the Pyroraptor, the shifting group dynamics. The mystery surrounding the Pyroraptor discreetly terrorizing the village had an old school monster movie/cryptid kind of feel that I enjoyed.

I'm not worried about the relationship between Yaz and Sam, I'm sure they'll end up back together in S4.

I agree with HD-man that Brooklynn needs to know the extent at which she has hurt the camp family. There is definitely some stuff that needs to be unpacked and addressed there. 

I was happy to see The Handler return. A truly unsettling and memorable character, and easily the coolest villain in the entire Jurassic franchise. That said, I was not sad to see her die. She's kind of a one trick pony and was utilized to her maximum capacity, I felt. I really don't know what else you could have done with her. You can do more with Soyona in the long term.
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Just finished the season. The final episode got me

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When that final battle started I thought, oh great, another excuse to make a punching bag out of Carnotaurus  ::)
That said, when my expectations were thoroughly subverted, I was surprised how upset I was.
With how disposable the Atrociraptor's felt in Dominion, I never thought I'd be so gutted to see Ghost die. I think a lot of that has to do with the bond the writers managed to craft between the Handler and the pack. Seeing them together as Ghost died hit me. The soft spot this unsettling, silent character had for the raptors was surprisingly touching and the look of disbelief and loss in that final moment told you everything you needed to know about their connection without a single word :'(
Certainly more effective than anything done between Owen and his Raptor squad.
Whereas I'm sad to see the Handler go, I did have to chuckle a little at how cheeky the death seemed. The hand being held out, only for Soyona to scoff "this again?" before the Handler got immediately devoured felt like a perfect parody of the whole hand thing.
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Overall, I had a good time watching this season. I don't think Chaos Theory has really had a big miss yet, which is impressive given the highs and lows (very lows) of Camp Cretaceous. The characters are all still pretty enjoyable, the unfolding story is engaging, and it even manages to improve upon the wasted potential of Dominion, which is no small feat if you ask me.


Oh, and it does make me feel a little better about it shelling out for that HC Pyroraptor now that it actually got a decent role to play  :*D

Blade-of-the-Moon

I think it helps as the characters mature they get closer to us. We can see them dealing with more than just " oh no a dinosaur run away!" that the movies seem to rely on.  If a movie spent half an hour on a character's emotional development it would be called boring and a flop. That's why I think we need a live action JP/JW series.

Shane

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So I finally finished the season. Whereas in the past I'd usually binge all the episodes over a couple of days, this time I waded in slowly to see if I wanted to keep going, since I was ready to check out after last season. So I watched an episode every few days when I had nothing else to do.

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Mostly, I thought it was decent but takes a long time to pick up steam. When they're in Malta and dinosaurs are wreaking havoc, I remember why I still watch this show, but in the earlier episodes of the season, there's a lot of not much going on.

In a show where padding out the run time seems to be a pivotal part of the series, I almost have to applaud the show adding Nonna just to give long monologues in un-subtitled Italian that characters will have to repeat or translate. I just read Isabella Rossellini voiced her?! It's wild that the vocal work is so expressive and yet the animation is almost completely static and wooden on Nonna, she has exactly one facial expression. She's like a Sims character.

Ultimately I can't even say I'm that torn about Yaz and Sammy...since the show never really gave us the highs of their relationship, all we ever saw were the lows, so it really made no sense for them to be together. Nobody in this show can actually talk out their issues with each other, so of course when Yaz and Sammy finally address the rift forming between them it all happens off screen and you don't even know what they discussed.

All that said, I'll probably stick with it. It got better toward the end when it finally delivered rampaging dinosaurs, but I still remember back when I genuinely liked this show, rather than merely watching it to fill a quota. It's hard to believe this is the show that gave us the genuinely scary Skorpios Rex. I'd say the Handler was the best thing about the series, but I feel like she's completely underutilized and of course we aren't going to be seeing much of her anymore.
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"Scott Kreamer Talks SEASON 3 & Beyond in Jurassic World Chaos Theory Interview":

Quote from: Dilopho on April 07, 2025, 01:27:37 AM
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I've ruminated on it, I know exactly what you're saying and it makes sense..but come on, I know WHY she holds her hand out to Demon like that, I know she's trying to get that emotional connection to him and all... but I've already seen several people bashing it and calling her stupid, this is what I'm talking about.
The bit in Dominion where Demon and the Allosaurus are released from their cages and Owen sticks his hands out got CLOWNED on. It's one of the most notorious parts of the entire Malta sequence. People make fun of it all the time because it's such a ridiculous extension of the raptor hand moment.
Knowing that these ARE trained dinosaurs retroactively makes it less stupid, but they still thrust that hand thing onto Handler and most people just think it makes you look stupid.
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But I'm just really salty, I didn't want her to die like THAT, especially not at such a moment.
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And what's with these raptors losing every fight they're in? They only really won against a single Pyroraptor, and even then they weren't going for a kill.
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the amount of IRL CREEPS brought out by this have been insane, so many homophobes have been outright celebrating this and that makes me so upset and dissappointed.
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I think I get what you're saying, that the movies in general & Owen in particular ruined it for you. Fair enough.

That's basically how I felt about the Yasammy stuff. Yes, it makes narrative sense, especially given everything leading up to it, but it still hurts to see my favorite characters hurting so much. If it's any consolation for you, I just read this nice article about Handler: https://screenrant.com/jurassic-world-chaos-theory-handler-scariest-human-character-op-ed/

I assume you mean every s3 fight, given that they won most of their s1-2 fights.

I figured that'd be the case, but fortunately haven't seen any of it myself. EDIT: Never mind😞
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Quote from: Gwangi on April 10, 2025, 02:31:38 PM
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this season had me hooked and looking forward to watching the story unfold, which CC never really did. CC felt more like a chore that I endured due to my love of the franchise.
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Like every other past season of CC and CT there were scenes that I found immensely frustrating. A couple that come to mind from this season...opening the Kentrosaurus cage inside of an airplane. I swear, these kids will DIE to save a a dinosaur. What a monumentally stupid thing to do. Later we get the kids herding the dinosaurs around Malta. It's just too ridiculous. I can tolerate a lot of goofy crap but this stunt jumps the shark for me.
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I really enjoyed most of what took place in Italy at Ben's girlfriend's house. The smaller story that took place there, dealing with Nonna's dino-phobia, the utilization of the Pyroraptor, the shifting group dynamics. The mystery surrounding the Pyroraptor discreetly terrorizing the village had an old school monster movie/cryptid kind of feel that I enjoyed.

I'm not worried about the relationship between Yaz and Sam, I'm sure they'll end up back together in S4.
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I was happy to see The Handler return. A truly unsettling and memorable character, and easily the coolest villain in the entire Jurassic franchise. That said, I was not sad to see her die. She's kind of a one trick pony and was utilized to her maximum capacity, I felt. I really don't know what else you could have done with her.
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I'm surprised you felt that way about CC overall. I did feel similarly about s1 going into s2, but that's mostly b/c I was expecting CC to be as bad as the JW movies (if not worse). Even when s1 exceeded my expectations, I didn't wanna get my hopes too high for s2 & beyond, hence why I was so much more critical then (S1: https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7736.msg279113#msg279113 ) (S2: https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7736.msg279872#msg279872 ).

To be fair about the Kentro, dinos are blameless, holy creatures O:-) (MST3K reference, but also objective fact), so of course the Main Characters (especially the biggest-hearted/most empathetic MC) are gonna do what they can w/what they got (pardon the accidental Tremors reference :P ). Put another way, think of the lengths other characters in similar situations have gone for their animal friends. & those were mostly stinky synapsids ;) (E.g. The dog in Independence Day & the cat in A Quiet Place: Day One). As for Malta, I'm genuinely curious, what makes that herding scene any goofier than the other herding scenes in CC & CT?

You're probably right, but since they're my favorite characters & s4 is (AFAIK) the end of CT, I still can't help but worry. At the very least, I hope they don't make us wait until ep10 for their reconciliation, maybe ep5.

BTW, I liked Nonna too, especially her cooking b/c it reminded me of classic Spongebob:

Basically what I was thinking in my 4/5/25 post ;) : https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=11117.msg392872#msg392872
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Quote from: Shane on April 14, 2025, 08:56:25 PM
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It's wild that the vocal work is so expressive and yet the animation is almost completely static and wooden on Nonna, she has exactly one facial expression.
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Ultimately I can't even say I'm that torn about Yaz and Sammy...since the show never really gave us the highs of their relationship,
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I'd say the Handler was the best thing about the series, but I feel like she's completely underutilized and of course we aren't going to be seeing much of her anymore.
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You're surprised? That's pretty much every Nonna-type character I've ever seen :-\ (E.g. Joey's grandma at ~1:00):

While I obviously wanna see more of the highs, we did see a bunch in CC s5.

Underutilized? :-\ Sorry not sorry, but that doesn't make sense. As pointed out by Gwangi & explained in the above article, CT did pretty much everything they could w/her.
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Shane

Quote from: HD-man on April 15, 2025, 02:54:10 AM
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Underutilized? :-\ Sorry not sorry, but that doesn't make sense. As pointed out by Gwangi & explained in the above article, CT did pretty much everything they could w/her.
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I dunno, I just felt like she was such a force of nature in the first season, I wanted to know more about her. I don't need them to go too into her entire life story but I basically loved every time she was on screen so I wanted to see more.
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Quote from: HD-man on April 15, 2025, 02:54:10 AMI'm surprised you felt that way about CC overall. I did feel similarly about s1 going into s2, but that's mostly b/c I was expecting CC to be as bad as the JW movies (if not worse). Even when s1 exceeded my expectations, I didn't wanna get my hopes too high for s2 & beyond, hence why I was so much more critical then (S1: https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7736.msg279113#msg279113 ) (S2: https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7736.msg279872#msg279872 ).

To be fair about the Kentro, dinos are blameless, holy creatures O:-) (MST3K reference, but also objective fact), so of course the Main Characters (especially the biggest-hearted/most empathetic MC) are gonna do what they can w/what they got (pardon the accidental Tremors reference :P ). Put another way, think of the lengths other characters in similar situations have gone for their animal friends. & those were mostly stinky synapsids ;) (E.g. The dog in Independence Day & the cat in A Quiet Place: Day One). As for Malta, I'm genuinely curious, what makes that herding scene any goofier than the other herding scenes in CC & CT?

You're probably right, but since they're my favorite characters & s4 is (AFAIK) the end of CT, I still can't help but worry. At the very least, I hope they don't make us wait until ep10 for their reconciliation, maybe ep5.
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CC started out decent enough but I really disliked the last season, it just got too goofy. Again, I regard these shows as somewhat average at best. Certainly not up there with the likes of the animated shows I do enjoy (Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Over the Garden Wall, etc.) but mostly watchable. It did exceed my expectations but the bar was very low and it didn't clear it by that much. 

You never have to apologize for a Tremors reference.  :)) I get that these kids are suckers for dinosaurs but my goodness, they're on a covert continent-hopping trip to find their friend, they aren't stupid. Well...they aren't stupid when the plot doesn't warrant it. The Kentro starts waking up and everyone is celebrating and I'm sitting on my couch internally screaming "ok, now close the cage door!"

The herding scene was no more or less goofy than other herding scenes I suppose, I can't really remember the others. In the first season weren't they herding the herbivores with vehicles or something? That is easier to believe. In that instance you have a herd of herbivores (presented as herding animals) being surrounded by multiple people and pushed towards another location. And they're captive animals that are probably used to it. Like cattle. But a bunch of panicked dinosaurs, of various species, being herded around Malta with flares is a bit more out there.
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"Chaos Theory Cast Talk Jurassic World Animated Show! Season 3, Favorite Dinosaurs, JP3 Trivia + More":

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Certainly not up there with the likes of the animated shows I do enjoy (Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Over the Garden Wall, etc.)
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The Kentro starts waking up and everyone is celebrating and I'm sitting on my couch internally screaming "ok, now close the cage door!"
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The herding scene was no more or less goofy than other herding scenes I suppose, I can't really remember the others. In the first season weren't they herding the herbivores with vehicles or something?
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Fair enough.

Also fair enough.

Yes, & they used vehicles (I.e. Mopeds) in Malta too. As for the last part, fair point, though you could argue that the movies had already established that herding "a bunch of panicked dinosaurs, of various species" can be done 1) when they're confined by high walls (E.g. JWFK's ending), & 2) w/flares (E.g. Several times throughout JWD).
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Cpt Red 3eard

I think that the original Jurassic Park trilogy was made for adults that children could enjoy.

Jurassic World and its related media was made for children that adults can enjoy.

Granted, there's a lot more to unpack than that and several caveats to make (like perhaps the original treated its audience like adults and World treats its audience like children), but that view is mainly how I can enjoy JW.

Preamble aside, as a kid show, the first three seasons of CC and what we have so far of CT is pretty good. There are a lot of interesting ideas in the show that I would have liked to see explored in a more mature fashion, but I have to take the show on its own terms.

I would have LOVED the show as a kid, but as an adult, it falls a little short of what I want. I'm still looking forward to future installments and I hope that Jurassic continues to diversify its Coburn for all audiences. I would love a more serious story that explores more mature themes.

Gwangi

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Quote from: HD-man on April 16, 2025, 10:59:57 AMYes, & they used vehicles (I.e. Mopeds) in Malta too. As for the last part, fair point, though you could argue that the movies had already established that herding "a bunch of panicked dinosaurs, of various species" can be done 1) when they're confined by high walls (E.g. JWFK's ending), & 2) w/flares (E.g. Several times throughout JWD).
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I'm not going to get into the particulars of various herding scenes, I don't find any of them realistic from anything in the franchise. Using Dominion to defend CT isn't gonna work for me either, it isn't anymore grounded. And making it so that flares work for all dinosaurs across the board just because it worked for the T. rex in the first movie is ridiculous.  :*D

I'm probably picky about the herding scenes because I spent half my life living around and working with cattle, and other livestock. I used to herd cattle on a daily basis, it was my job. It was not always easy and cattle are domesticated herding animals, not a mixed bag of dinosaur species rampaging in a city. I roll my eyes at it the same way actual paleontologists roll their eyes at the dig site in Jurassic Park, with the fully articulated Velociraptor under a thin coat of sand. People are often judgy when they see their job portrayed on screen.
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Shane

Quote from: Gwangi on April 15, 2025, 02:25:18 PMH @HD-man

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Quote from: HD-man on April 15, 2025, 02:54:10 AMI'm surprised you felt that way about CC overall. I did feel similarly about s1 going into s2, but that's mostly b/c I was expecting CC to be as bad as the JW movies (if not worse). Even when s1 exceeded my expectations, I didn't wanna get my hopes too high for s2 & beyond, hence why I was so much more critical then (S1: https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7736.msg279113#msg279113 ) (S2: https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=7736.msg279872#msg279872 ).

To be fair about the Kentro, dinos are blameless, holy creatures O:-) (MST3K reference, but also objective fact), so of course the Main Characters (especially the biggest-hearted/most empathetic MC) are gonna do what they can w/what they got (pardon the accidental Tremors reference :P ). Put another way, think of the lengths other characters in similar situations have gone for their animal friends. & those were mostly stinky synapsids ;) (E.g. The dog in Independence Day & the cat in A Quiet Place: Day One). As for Malta, I'm genuinely curious, what makes that herding scene any goofier than the other herding scenes in CC & CT?

You're probably right, but since they're my favorite characters & s4 is (AFAIK) the end of CT, I still can't help but worry. At the very least, I hope they don't make us wait until ep10 for their reconciliation, maybe ep5.
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CC started out decent enough but I really disliked the last season, it just got too goofy. Again, I regard these shows as somewhat average at best. Certainly not up there with the likes of the animated shows I do enjoy (Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Over the Garden Wall, etc.) but mostly watchable. It did exceed my expectations but the bar was very low and it didn't clear it by that much. 

You never have to apologize for a Tremors reference.  :)) I get that these kids are suckers for dinosaurs but my goodness, they're on a covert continent-hopping trip to find their friend, they aren't stupid. Well...they aren't stupid when the plot doesn't warrant it. The Kentro starts waking up and everyone is celebrating and I'm sitting on my couch internally screaming "ok, now close the cage door!"

The herding scene was no more or less goofy than other herding scenes I suppose, I can't really remember the others. In the first season weren't they herding the herbivores with vehicles or something? That is easier to believe. In that instance you have a herd of herbivores (presented as herding animals) being surrounded by multiple people and pushed towards another location. And they're captive animals that are probably used to it. Like cattle. But a bunch of panicked dinosaurs, of various species, being herded around Malta with flares is a bit more out there.
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Essentially these are my thoughts on the series as a whole. CC started out strong and then started to really spin its wheels and I don't think the wheel spinning has ever really gotten back on track.

The word that I feel describes the show to me the most is "stiff". Stiff animation, stiff characters, stiff narrative.

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Quote from: Gwangi on April 16, 2025, 12:57:25 PM
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I'm not going to get into the particulars of various herding scenes, I don't find any of them realistic from anything in the franchise. Using Dominion to defend CT isn't gonna work for me either, it isn't anymore grounded. And making it so that flares work for all dinosaurs across the board just because it worked for the T. rex in the first movie is ridiculous.  :*D
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Just to clarify, I'm not saying that the movies should've done those things, just that those things are canon (for better or worse), so CC/CT might as well make the most/best of them. As you may remember, 1 of my favorite things about CC/CT is it's ability to make sense of the movies' nonsense ("The animals in general[...]: www.deviantart.com/jd-man/journal/SD-My-favorite-aspects-of-Camp-Cretaceous-882741250 ). Otherwise, fair enough.
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Watched the first three episodes. Most of the pertain to the latter two. Episode one was just eh whatever.

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Oh man Smoothie is way too cute. I mean so was Bumpy when she was a baby. But like why is there no merch of this little cutie? Perhaps it was not to spoil the season's reveal, but man need a figure of this little guy now for sure.

Really glad we got some good screen time and usage of the Pyroraptor, especially the end of episode 3. Can't wait to see what else is in store with it. I mean they did a good job with the Atrociraptor this time around too.
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