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What, if anything, is 'museum quality'?

Started by amargasaurus cazaui, August 29, 2014, 10:51:14 PM

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Roselaar



CityRaptor

Quote from: Roselaar on January 13, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
Not Schleich. That's for sure.

They also stopped claiming that after the end of their Replica Saurus line....
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Takama

Quote from: CityRaptor on January 13, 2015, 11:10:20 PM
Quote from: Roselaar on January 13, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
Not Schleich. That's for sure.

They also stopped claiming that after the end of their Replica Saurus line....

I would not be so sure




tyrantqueen

#43
That was written by Amazon's staff, not Schleich themselves. So it doesn't really count.

SBell

Originally, museum quality was used to describe models that were produced with input from museums/scientists. This included the BMNH Invictas, the Carnegie collection, the Stuttgart Museum Dinosaur & prehistoric mammal figures from Bullyland, the Humboldt Museum Replicasaurus figures from Schleich, The Smithsonian insects from Safari, the Monterey Bay Sea life from Safari, the Tennessee Aquarium salamanders from Safari, the Boston Museum Battat dinos and probably a few others.

The term pretty much lost its meaning after the American Museum of Natural History tied itself to the Play Visions large dinosaurs, followed by the Natural History Museum tying together with Wild Republic and also those terrible BMNH-Toyway dinos.

Now, it is, as someone said, more of a marketing term like 'organic' or 'low fat' or 'gluten free' than something that should affect decisions. Not to say that some companies don't still involve researchers, museums or specialists in their production, but we may notice that neither CollectA nor Mojo nor the Safari Dinos line has ever used the term that I'm aware of, even if it could be true.

Paleogene Pals

I can't define 'museum quality' or 'scientifically accurate' or whatnot. But, I know it when I see it!

amargasaurus cazaui

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This was the original topic that was begun when Rebor started using the terms museum accurate etc. It was split off from another topic by Dr. Admin, after I posed the question...what meaning does the term have.
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Quote from: amargasaurus cazaui on January 14, 2015, 02:55:44 AM
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=2556.0


This was the original topic that was begun when Rebor started using the terms museum accurate etc. It was split off from another topic by Dr. Admin, after I posed the question...what meaning does the term have.

Thanks for reminding me, topics merged  :)  C:-)



Dyscrasia

#48
Museum quality imho --> Figures, models, statues etc. which directly reflects/represents up-to-date, rigorous research data (by the time of its release).

The actual "accuracy" and "quality" might dwindle as time passes by with new discoveries and researches, but that is unfortunately inevitable.

Daspletodave

To me the term "museum quality" means it looks like those large high-end realistic replicas you see in museums. The ones you can't buy - because the museum commissioned a professional artist to do that one piece - and he/she spent hundreds of hours sculpting it and painting it to look ultra life-like.
Of course mass produced plastic toys cannot compete with that. The first museum line was Invicta, followed by Carnegie, Schleich, Bullyland, Toyway, and Battat. Even Favorite has made some one-off museum figures. They all tried to stick to a common scale, and make figures as realistic as possible using the available information at that time.
Just how much input the various museums had is questionable. Maybe they approved every step of the sculpting, tho I doubt it. Possibly the only input they had was providing the information that appeared on the box or hang-tag.
Now only Carnegie and Bullyland remain as museum lines. The others have gone belly-up or terminated their museum affiliations. I think the "prestige" of being a museum line has worn off. You don't need to be a museum line to make good figures - a point well illustrated by Papo, Favorite, Wild Safari, and Battat Terra.
And let's not forget that the dinosaur figures being produced today are vastly superior to the ones being made just 10 years ago.

Dinoguy2

Yeah, museum quality is meaningless and not even a standard anybody should strive for. Museums are great in their own way, but being accurate and up to date is not usually even possible. Creating museum displays and updating them is maybe a twice a century thing. Science moves way faster than that, and some displays start off inaccurate to begin with.

What we need is a "research quality" or "peer reviewed" label, though I can think of very few figures that could hope to meet it.
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CityRaptor

"Paleontologist approved" won't do either. That is what Geoworld does.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Dinoguy2

#52
Quote from: CityRaptor on January 25, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
"Paleontologist approved" won't do either. That is what Geoworld does.

True, though one possible solution might be to hire specific consultants and advertise them. Like, the series 2 DinoRiders overseen by Bakker. Get Paul Sereno or some other big names to not only approve them, but produce figures based on their own research to help with marketing/or towards future grants.

"Safari presents the tyrannosauroid collection, supervised by Tom Holtz"!

Series based around specific paleoartists would work too, provided the artists are ahem... Payed.
The Carnegie Collection Dinosaur Archive - http://www.dinosaurmountain.net


Paleogene Pals

Technically, every sculpture I make could be advertised as "geologist approved" or even "paleontologist approved" since I am a geologist that looks at conodonts. In some circles, I'm even considered to be a paleontologist.

Takama

From what i gathered   Rebors Dinosaurs Are Museum worthy.    But how I interpret that is different

I remember reading an article that Distinguished Paleoart from Dinosaur Art.   Rebors models are not Paleoart. Instead there Dinosaur Art. Plaeoart is a form of art that sets itself to show off the Prehistoric world as true to life as possible. Dinosaur art on the other hand can be stylized however you please.

I think i figured how Rebors models can be Museum Worthy.

I remember at the Natural History Museum in London, they had a section dedicated to some inaccurate Sculptures.  Basically someones artwork.    Rebors models are nothing but a sampling of awesome bro style Dinosaur art. but there still someones artwork.  Clearly a lot of thought went into the making of them, even if there thoughts were not what we wished.   What im saying is Rebors models are well crafted Sculptures of Awesome bro style dinosaurs, and would be more at home in an art exhibit then a Dinosaur hall full of Skeletons.

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