# of digits on Jurassic Park/World toys

[Giganotosaurus]

So we all know that many of the toys from Hasbro and Mattel over the years have had incorrect number of digits on the hands and feet of their dinosaur figures. Let's make a list so that people can know which ones are inaccurate.

Kenner:
Velociraptor
Young T Rex
Quetzalcoatlus
Giant Pteranodon
Dilophosaurus

Hasbro:

Dimorphodon
Ankylosaurus
Pteranodon
Dilophosaurus

Mattel:

Apatosaurus
Majungasaurus
Ankylosaurus
Stegosaurus
Postosuchus
Sauropelta
Sinoceratops
Ouranosaurus
Edmontosaurus
Concavenator
Herrerasaurus
Masiakasaurus
Parasaurolophus
Brachiosaurus
Dilophosaurus
Pachyrhinosaurus
Spinosaurus (mini)
Dimetrodon (Dino Rivals)
Skorpiovenator
Siamosaurus
Ampelosaurus
Dreadnoughtus

Unknown # of digits in real life:

Please add to the list, or make corrections to it!

[CityRaptor]

Would cases of screen accuracy count?
Every Dilophosaurus, from Kenner to Hasbro to Mattel for example only had 3 fingers as in the movie while the real deal had 4.

Kenner examples:
Nearly every Velociraptor lacks the Hallux.
Same with every version of the Young Tyrannosaurus Rex
Quetalcoatlus and its retool, the Giant Pteranodon, only have 3 toes.

[Giganotosaurus]

Thanks very much for the info, I added those dinosaurs to the list!

Also, does it seem like the Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus will have the correct number of digits? It's hard to tell

[Faelrin]

The original Mattel Dimetrodon (canceled 2018 Destruct-A-Saurs version, released 2019 Dino Rivals) suffers from this with having only 3 digits on each appendage, but the new Dominion ones have this corrected with 5 each as they are based off the movie design.

Probably worth mentioning the Mattel Spinosaurus mini has four digits on the hands.

Also like the Dilophosaurus, the Concavenator is based off the film design in FK (the manor diorama statue), which also suffers from a fourth digit on the hands. Semi accurate to the film depiction, but inaccurate to the real animal.

Edit: Their 2018 Pachyrhinosaurus/"Sinoceratops" incorrectly has 5 digits on the hind limbs, instead of 4.

Also little suggestion but could there be something detailing the incorrect number of digits and what the correct number would be, for those not in the know?

[Giganotosaurus]

Thanks for the info! And great idea, I will definitely incorporate that!
Also, does anyone know if Rajasaurus has the correct number of digits? (If we even know how many one had?)

[Faelrin]

So I discovered today that the Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus has an extra digit on the feet (dewclaw), which is incorrect for a 3 toed ornithopod. Both the 2019 Dino Rivals and 2020 Camp Cretaceous ones have the right number of digits on the feet, but the hands have an extra digit (5 total). I know it is already mentioned above, but figured to add this info here.

Also Rajasaurus does not have material from the forelimb, so the number of digits there are not currently known. The best one could do is possibly extrapolate by using any relatives that might have that kind of material.

[Giganotosaurus]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGqaB1rV_y/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Dreadnoughtus figure pics! There's one that shows the front feet, I think it has the right amount of digits?

[Flaffy]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGqaB1rV_y/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Dreadnoughtus figure pics! There's one that shows the front feet, I think it has the right amount of digits?

I dont see how that's the correct number of digits.

As for the Dreadnoughtus, so far so good! better executed than the Apatosaurus imo, especially the jaw articulation. I still don't understand why Mattel decided to give Apatosaurus (and the Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus) the half-jaw articulation instead of a full one.

[Flaffy]

So I discovered today that the Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus has an extra digit on the feet (dewclaw), which is incorrect for a 3 toed ornithopod. Both the 2019 Dino Rivals and 2020 Camp Cretaceous ones have the right number of digits on the feet, but the hands have an extra digit (5 total). I know it is already mentioned above, but figured to add this info here.

Also Rajasaurus does not have material from the forelimb, so the number of digits there are not currently known. The best one could do is possibly extrapolate by using any relatives that might have that kind of material.

A shame about the HC Parasaurolophus. It's clear by the wonky head sculpt, bad proportions and incorrect digits that the sculptor did not pay a lot of attention to the Stan Winston design. Wasn't the Hammond Collection supposed to be the deluxe, collector-oriented, screen accurate line?

As for Rajasaurus, iirc all Abelisaurids known so far have 4 digits on their forelimbs, so it's safe to assume that Rajasaurus did not deviate from this condition.

[CityRaptor]

So I discovered today that the Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus has an extra digit on the feet (dewclaw), which is incorrect for a 3 toed ornithopod. Both the 2019 Dino Rivals and 2020 Camp Cretaceous ones have the right number of digits on the feet, but the hands have an extra digit (5 total). I know it is already mentioned above, but figured to add this info here.

A shame about the HC Parasaurolophus. It's clear by the wonky head sculpt, bad proportions and incorrect digits that the sculptor did not pay a lot of attention to the Stan Winston design. Wasn't the Hammond Collection supposed to be the deluxe, collector-oriented, screen accurate line?

Checked some Para pictures on the Jurassic wiki. While not in the movies, it is depicted with a hallux in Camp Cretaceous. Normal and Lux have it.

[Giganotosaurus]

Added Skorpiovenator and Siamosaurus to the list.

Anybody know how many digits iguanodon and ampelosaurus had on each hand?

[Faelrin]

Iguanodon had five (well if counting the thumb spike). The three middle ones were for standing, and there was one opposable pinky digit, with the thumb spike as the first digit. Assuming they correctly gave it five digits with the hands, the biggest issue would be the size of the claws, and that the thumb spikes seem too small and too much finger like. It almost looks like they got the feet right (3 toes) unless they gave it an extra dew claw like the HC Parasaurolophus had that I just can't make out from the small image resolution.

I'll do some digging on Ampelosaurus. My guess would be like that of other sauropods though.

Also that Siamosaurus seems like it may have actually taken inspiration from the Ark design. It also has an erroneous extra fourth digit or thumb on the hands. Though like the real Spinosaurus the first digit appears to be weight bearing on both this toy and the Ark design, but well that's for Spinosaurus. I'm pretty sure Siamosaurus is just a tooth genus.

[Giganotosaurus]

Thanks for the reply! That's of great help! Good to know about the iguanodon and Siamosaurus.
It seems like so far that Amargasaurus is the only sauropod so far that has the right amount of digits, so I'm hoping Ampelosaurus and Dreadnoughtus do too.

[Faelrin]

Well Iguanodon does not have the correct number of digits on the hands (it has 4, when it should have 5), at least as far as the mini figure goes, which I opened up yesterday, and also appears to be carried over onto the electronic figure from this new video (and also the model in the app too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCHxOTdP5E

Why is it that their ornithopods always get the brunt of this unfortunately? And I guess we know why last year's Ouranosaurus has 6 digits on the hands. Guess they stole them from them this Iguanodon then.

[Giganotosaurus]

Looks like the Ampelosaurus and Dreadnoughtus have the wrong # of digits, but it looks like the Apatosaurus from last year does have the correct amount actually?

[Faelrin]

The Apatosaurus figure has 5 digits on each limb, front and back, which is correct. What's obviously not correct (even to the film animal!) is that it has claws on all digits, when only the first digit on the manus should have a claw, and three of the digits on the foot should have claws. I guess it is to be consistent with the JP Brachiosaurus, but again it's neither film or scientifically accurate.

Material for Dreadnoughtus is incomplete in this area, but could be inferred from any relatives that have material (which I'm not sure about): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5385829/

Edit: I'm not sure about the film's Dreadnoughtus, but the JWE2 one has 5 digits on the manus (all with stubby claws), and four digits on the feet (also with stubby claws). So if the toy has the same digits as the JWE2 model, it might be film accurate?

Best example I could find is this brightened HD version of the Prologue scene with it in it. If you zoom in enough you can (barely) see some of the stubby claws, so I guess the JWE2 model is accurate to the film one:



While this is regarding the Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus, I thought it would be interesting to share these images of The Lost World: Jurassic Park maquette created by Stan Winston Studios. The hands correctly have four digits, are almost given a fleshy mitten look (which I had no idea about prior), with only the claws/hooves at the tips, and the feet correctly have three digits.







The Hammond Collection Parasaurolophus incorrectly has five digits on the hands, and four digits on the toes. While the Jurassic World Parasaurolophus has minimum screen time, and thus even less close up shots, the hologram shot of it in Jurassic World gives the best look at the model. It does not appear to have the extra digits this sculpt has.



The JWE2 model seems to based on the maquette (even seeming to have those semi fleshy mitten hands), with the correct number of digits.