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Would a Spinosaurus really kill a T-Rex

Started by IHogaRok, January 01, 2013, 04:03:52 AM

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suspsy

Dammit, Tyrantqueen beat me to it!

That clip is just as fanciful as JP3, but more realistic in terms of results. The Spinosaurus bit the Tyrannnosaurus on the head and neck, but its narrow jaws weren't strong enough to inflict serious injury. The Tyrannosaurus used its boxy head like a battering ram, stunning the Spinosaurus just long enough to clamp its massive jaws onto the latter's thinner neck. One good tug, and the Spinosaurus collapsed dead to the ground.

That's that.
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John

Quote from: tyrantqueen on January 02, 2013, 12:24:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNkQeqWkVKc

Question is solved.
Jurassic Park 3 must have angered more dorks than I thought! Apparently at least one was angry enough to make a video of a second battle between Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus to even things up! Seeing things like this makes me hope that another fan favorite character loses a fight in a movie! Maybe Khan will show up somewhere in the next Star Trek movie and lose a battle to a nameless crewmwmber of the Enterprise in a red shirt!  ;D
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radman

There is a nice video by Dinosaur Planet showing a confrontation between a hungry spinosaurus and a carcharodontosaurus with freshly killed prey.  The spino mostly uses its long arms and sharp claws to whack the carcho across the face over and over; its huge sail must have seemed intimidating as well, it eventually takes over the carcass without much fuss.  This seems like a realistic scenario to me; unless at the point of starvation, most predators will not fight to the death, over food, territory or otherwise.

http://www.tubeplus.me/player/1965064/Planet_Dinosaur/season_1/episode_1/Lost_World/

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suspsy

Quote from: radman on January 02, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
There is a nice video by Dinosaur Planet showing a confrontation between a hungry spinosaurus and a carcharodontosaurus with freshly killed prey.  The spino mostly uses its long arms and sharp claws to whack the carcho across the face over and over; its huge sail must have seemed intimidating as well, it eventually takes over the carcass without much fuss.  This seems like a realistic scenario to me; unless at the point of starvation, most predators will not fight to the death, over food, territory or otherwise.

http://www.tubeplus.me/player/1965064/Planet_Dinosaur/season_1/episode_1/Lost_World/

I think the Spinosaurus later dies of its injuries from that fight. That's another reason why JP3 sucks.
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radman

Quote from: suspsy on January 02, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: radman on January 02, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
There is a nice video by Dinosaur Planet showing a confrontation between a hungry spinosaurus and a carcharodontosaurus with freshly killed prey.  The spino mostly uses its long arms and sharp claws to whack the carcho across the face over and over; its huge sail must have seemed intimidating as well, it eventually takes over the carcass without much fuss.  This seems like a realistic scenario to me; unless at the point of starvation, most predators will not fight to the death, over food, territory or otherwise.

http://www.tubeplus.me/player/1965064/Planet_Dinosaur/season_1/episode_1/Lost_World/

I think the Spinosaurus later dies of its injuries from that fight. That's another reason why JP3 sucks.

Well, the spinosaurus , despite clearly winning the confrontation in this scenario, later dies, as does every other dinosaur, eventually.  Nonetheless, everyone please enjoy this link to the Planet Dinosaur videos, in case one hasn't seen them before.

Takama

#26
You know whats Bad?

T_Rex Vs Spino has become Cliche

here is a terrible game with terrible dinosaurs, and an overrated villian dino(Spoiler alert, its Spiny)

Jurrasic the Hunted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XZHeHpAPjGc

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Quote from: Zopteryx on January 02, 2013, 02:01:07 AM
In a fair fight, where neither gets the jump on the other, I'd say Tyrannosaurus would win.  It's bone-crunching bite would make short work of Spinosaurus's sail, severely crippling it.  If they existed together in real life though, they'd probably ignore each other.

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 01, 2013, 04:02:33 PM
I guess we need an Ultimate Warrior type of show for prehistoric animals. Weigh each statistic and then let them fight it out in a simulation so many times, the higher number wins.  Anyone want to try it ?  :)

There actually was a show like that on Animal Planet (no, not Jurassic Fight Club ::)), not quite as refined as Ultimate Warrior, but still interesting.  I wanna say there was only two prehistoric episodes though, T. rex vs Triceratops and Velociraptor vs Ankylosaurus.

"The Truth About Killer Dinosaurs" if its the same one I'm thinking of. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjIItXcClqs


ZoPteryx

Yep, that's it; or something with the same animated sequences at least. :)

suspsy

Quote from: Takama on January 02, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
You know whats Bad?

T_Rex Vs Spino has become Cliche

here is a terrible game with terrible dinosaurs, and an overrated villian dino(Spoiler alert, its Spiny)

Jurrasic the Hunted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XZHeHpAPjGc

I did not think it was possible to create a lamer battle than the one in JP3. I was wrong.
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Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: IHogaRok on January 02, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 01, 2013, 10:00:30 PM
Not mad at all, just explaining .  :)   You have to understand this question has been brought up a LOT since the film came out.  It's a metaphorical " dead horse " that has been beaten to death over and over.  You could find out comes for either one that might suit you, but the simple truth is we just don't know and aren't likely ever to know in this instance.

If you refer to the film canon now that's a different story..obviously " Spinosaurus " can take out and kill a T-Rex in the Jurassic Park-verse. ;)

OK :). When I put the angry face, I wasn't really mad, I was just slightly surprised by the replies. Its my first time being on a forum, so I don't quite know the ropes. Sorry.

No worries. Welcome to the forum !

IHogaRok

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 03, 2013, 02:58:51 AM
Quote from: IHogaRok on January 02, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 01, 2013, 10:00:30 PM
Not mad at all, just explaining .  :)   You have to understand this question has been brought up a LOT since the film came out.  It's a metaphorical " dead horse " that has been beaten to death over and over.  You could find out comes for either one that might suit you, but the simple truth is we just don't know and aren't likely ever to know in this instance.

If you refer to the film canon now that's a different story..obviously " Spinosaurus " can take out and kill a T-Rex in the Jurassic Park-verse. ;)

OK :). When I put the angry face, I wasn't really mad, I was just slightly surprised by the replies. Its my first time being on a forum, so I don't quite know the ropes. Sorry.

No worries. Welcome to the forum !

Thanks

KeU

Well, if we really have a Spinosaurus and Tyrannosaurus together at the same time and they are both hungry enough to try take down one another..
I would say Tyrannosaurus will have the higher probability of being successful simply because it evolved to hunted similarly sized prey.
Spinosaurus was designed to prey on fish and probably much smaller dinosaurs.

Similarly, Tyrannosaurus would have a better chance taking down Giganotosaurus and not vice-versa.


Simon

"Its all in the jaws"

TRex had - by FAR - the strongest jaws with the most powerful bite of any of its historical competitors.  So basically it would be favored in any engagement with either a Giganotosaurus, or Spinosaurus).

We know that TRexes used to bite each other on the face/head during (presumably) dominance contests, etc. 

If either one of these two engaged a TRex in a face-biting contest the result would most likely be a crushing (literally) victory for the Trex.  The Spino especially wouldn't have a prayer.


suspsy

T. Rex's head isn't just about overwhelming biting power: it's also about sheer durability. That skull is so much more solidly built than that of Spinosaurus or Giganotosaurus. Slamming that noggin into another dinosaur's body would almost certainly cause broken bones and internal injuries.

Note how the Primal Carnage T. Rex uses its head to stun the Spinosaurus before delivering a killing bite to the neck.
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RaptorTheDoctor

T-Rex would probably win in any physical confrontation. There IS a slight chance, however, that Spinosaurus could scare Rex out of a confrontation. It could use it's sail and larger size to appear more threatening to the smaller, but more powerful Rex, thus avoiding a conflict.

KeU

Quote from: RaptorTheDoctor on February 08, 2013, 02:42:09 AM
T-Rex would probably win in any physical confrontation. There IS a slight chance, however, that Spinosaurus could scare Rex out of a confrontation. It could use it's sail and larger size to appear more threatening to the smaller, but more powerful Rex, thus avoiding a conflict.

That would probably happen more often than a physical confrontation.

Tyrannax

If I'm not mistaken, isn't there an existing theory regarding Spinosaurus utilizing its massive size (and possibly dilated spine) to dissuade Carcharodontosaurus? If that were the case, I'm sure Tyrannosaurus wouldn't feel comfortable around it either.



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Simon

...hmmm... depends on the caliber it was wielding ...

/runs away/

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