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HAOLONGGOOD - New for 2024

Started by postsaurischian, January 14, 2024, 10:31:47 AM

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bmathison1972

Quote from: triceratops83 on December 03, 2024, 02:26:28 AMMy Argentinosaurus was just delivered. It's a dark rainy day for taking photos, so these aren't exactly optimal. I thought a good size comparison would be with Muscovy ducks, which are pretty big birds - the big male could look into its eyes if he stretched his neck up. Moot point anyway - the ducks refused to go near this thing.



I hope the Argentinosaurus doesn't get taken down by that pack of hungry theropods in the background  ;D


Flaffy

I agree with those that consider Battat's Styracosaurus to be the best. Yes he's not the most detailed offering out there, but something about the sculpt just screams "Styracosaurus" to me. An absolute gem of a figure. I also don't think the HLG Styraco surpasses PNSO's figure in both sculpt and paint. While I'm a big fan of the eyespots on HLG's, the rest of the colour scheme leaves much to be desired.

Pic by B @Bokisaurus

Happy to see HLG take on more abelisaurs too! I have Safari's version, but not completely satisfied with it. Especially for those who have been waiting all this time for a 1:35 Majungasaurus. I'm hoping it doesn't have massive claws on its hands (relative) like the Safari figure.

Pic by avatar_Gwangi @Gwangi

bmathison1972

Images for the Majungasaurus and Styracosaurus are not showing up for me. Doesn't really matter, for both genera I am content with Safari. I really don't like the paint job on Safari's Styracosaurus, but I can tolerate it to have a Watson-sculpted ceratopsian.

I agree with avatar_Gwangi @Gwangi - there are lots of good Styracosaurus in recent years. In addition to Safari and the aforementioned Battat, PNSO's is also very nice.

Pliosaurking

Both look nice. I just got Safari's Majungasaurus, However I'll grab this one if it's  1:35 scale. The styracosaurus looks nice, although I already have several. If it's true 1:35 scale I may grab it.

Joliezac

The only Styracosaurus I own is the old red Papo one. Which I don't really like anymore. I'll wait on more images of this one. I like the PNSO one a lot too, is it 1:35 scale?

Blade-of-the-Moon

Majunga almost looks like a PNSO, those blue eyes..  The teeth I wish could be a bit more defined , they look a lot like human teeth flat and rounded?

Styraco looks good, just not sure I need another one. Head might be too small by a bit or it's just the angle.

More pics and other color schemes will be welcome.

Samrukia

aren't there going to be 2nd colour variants?

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Tattu

My first thought when I saw the Styracosaurus was that it looks a bit too drab compared to other HLG releases. But we only have one image so far. Maybe there's a lot of detail that isn't showing in that one photo.For the Majungasaurus, I'm hopeful that this marks the start of V 2.0 of HLG Theropods. I do love mouth articulation though, so it's a shame if this one doesn't have it.

bmathison1972

For some reason I had to go to my phone to see pics (still not showing for me here at work) but now that I have I really much prefer Safari's Majungasaurus. The Styracosaurus looks great, and I agree with Flaffy the eyespots are cool, but I'll stick with what I already have.

thomasw100

There seems to be a 1:20 scale resin version of the Dilophosaurus, which has been shown at an exhibition at Shenzhen.







Stegotyranno420

Finally a good non-Carnotaurus abelisaur. One of their better theropods

The styraco also looks awesome, probably my favorite sculptwise, looks exactly how I imagine them, though colors are a bit bland, it looks "rugged" and somehwat "dusty"? I like it alot, much more than PNSO's or any other.

Good Job avatar_HaoLongGood_Elsa @HaoLongGood_Elsa V @vampiredesign


Also the Dilo with mouth open looks cooler, but i can see the appeal in a more natural close mouthed sculpt.

DefinitelyNOTDilo

Quote from: Renecito on December 03, 2024, 01:51:38 PMPaleofiguras posted Styracosaurus and Majungasaurus:




My jaw quite literally dropped when I saw that Majungasaurus, I am beyond excited.

DefinitelyNOTDilo

Quote from: Pinbacker on December 03, 2024, 02:55:45 PMAfter waiting for years (in vain) on Wild Past's 1:35 Majungasaurus, Haolonggood finally swoops in and delivers the goods. What a beautiful model. Can't wait to see the other variant. The Styracosaurus looks great as well! I liked the subdued color palatte, but I'm guessing the other variant will be more colorful.

My thoughts exactly!


Duna

I understand the "love" of some nostalgic collectors of the ol' Carnegies and Battat figures, but saying that the Battat styracosaurus is "superior" to any of the market ... sorry, it is years away from them, in every aspect, even the shiny paint. I don't think I need to number all the flaws of that figure, because they are obvious for anyone to see. And yes, I'm a vintage collector myself (I don't think lots of people have the variety of different collections I have) and yes, I love of every one of them.

The PNSO styracosaurus is one of their best ceratopsids so the HLG has a good contender. The only thing here is that the PNSO is slightly oversized (I don't mind that) and if the HLG is 1:35 it would be smaller.

The majungasaurus is just wonderful, looks bulky, with long muscular legs and I like that colour. I didn't plan to get the Safari version because feet look the same in all theropod figures. I know they are intended for children, they need to be more stable and hand sculpting has limitations so that's nice the way they are. But HLG and PNSO have now made my tastes ... different, just look at the HLG Carnotaurus, Megaraptor feet to understand what I'm saying.

thomasw100

Quote from: Quiversaurus on December 03, 2024, 03:36:31 PMThe more I look at the grey, the more I like it. I think there are a lot of subtleties we can't yet see from this image. I like PNSO's Styracosaurus more, but this is still a beautiful rendition imo. Good to have multiple styles and options to choose from. I imagine there'll be another paint scheme?

I really like that Majungasaurus! Paint scheme and sculpt look closer to PNSO therapods than ever before. What a smart species to come back with therapods on.

I feel like the edge HLG has over PNSO is that they keep a finger on the pulse of the collecting community's preferences, like on this forum for eg. They heard the cries for 1:35 sauropods, delivered beautifully, and now perhaps they're moving on to abelisaurids...


The key questions are 1) what fraction of either PNSOs or Haolonggoods annual sales volume comes from the serious collecting community and 2) is that fraction significantly different for PNSO compared to Haolonggood. This determines if either of them has an incentive to listen to what for example people on this forum would like to have.

GnastyGnorc

Quote from: Duna on December 03, 2024, 06:12:37 PMI understand the "love" of some nostalgic collectors of the ol' Carnegies and Battat figures, but saying that the Battat styracosaurus is "superior" to any of the market ... sorry, it is years away from them, in every aspect, even the shiny paint. I don't think I need to number all the flaws of that figure, because they are obvious for anyone to see. And yes, I'm a vintage collector myself (I don't think lots of people have the variety of different collections I have) and yes, I love of every one of them.

The PNSO styracosaurus is one of their best ceratopsids so the HLG has a good contender. The only thing here is that the PNSO is slightly oversized (I don't mind that) and if the HLG is 1:35 it would be smaller.

The majungasaurus is just wonderful, looks bulky, with long muscular legs and I like that colour. I didn't plan to get the Safari version because feet look the same in all theropod figures. I know they are intended for children, they need to be more stable and hand sculpting has limitations so that's nice the way they are. But HLG and PNSO have now made my tastes ... different, just look at the HLG Carnotaurus, Megaraptor feet to understand what I'm saying.

yes if the HLG is actually 1:35 and smaller than the PNSO I will just pick it up for that reason even though I have the PNSO. If its also oversized it's an immediate pass for me.

dinofelid

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Quote from: Duna on December 03, 2024, 06:12:37 PMI understand the "love" of some nostalgic collectors of the ol' Carnegies and Battat figures, but saying that the Battat styracosaurus is "superior" to any of the market ... sorry, it is years away from them, in every aspect, even the shiny paint. I don't think I need to number all the flaws of that figure, because they are obvious for anyone to see. And yes, I'm a vintage collector myself (I don't think lots of people have the variety of different collections I have) and yes, I love of every one of them.

Do you mean anatomical flaws or flaws due to older production techniques, like less fine-grained scale detail and the paint? The dinotoyblog review suggests it's held up pretty well anatomically, and that "The only inaccuracy is that it is now believed that ceratopsians had their wrists facing each other instead of facing backwards", but the reviewer may not have caught everything and the review is from 2010.

Quote from: Duna on December 03, 2024, 06:12:37 PMThe PNSO styracosaurus is one of their best ceratopsids so the HLG has a good contender. The only thing here is that the PNSO is slightly oversized (I don't mind that) and if the HLG is 1:35 it would be smaller.

The PNSO wasn't advertised as 1:35, but it would be much too large for that scale, I did some measurements and compared it to the measurements given for a fairly complete skeleton on p. 167 of Peter Dodson's "The Horned Dinosaurs" (centrum  length 5.5-5.8 meters, femur length 83 cm, and height at the hips around 1.65 m) and it seems to be close to 1:25 scale. The Battat actually seems pretty close to 1:35 with 14 cm length, femur 2.5 cm, hip height 4.7 cm, but if HLG is also correct for a large size Styracosaurus at 1:35 scale I'll pick it up (sometimes HLG seems to depict individuals that are considerably smaller than the largest known for the genus, like with Edmontosaurus which the dinotoyblog review said was more like 1:45 for a large individual, or Maiasaura which the DinosDragons youtube review said was around 1:40).

Ajax88

Hmmm... will wait for more photos of course, but it looks like HLG put a lot less effort into Styracosaurus than previous ceratopsians, I hope their Triceratops was not a one-hit-wonder.

Duna

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Quote from: dinofelid on December 03, 2024, 06:49:04 PMDo you mean anatomical flaws or flaws due to older production techniques, like less fine-grained scale detail and the paint? The dinotoyblog review suggests it's held up pretty well anatomically, and that "The only inaccuracy is that it is now believed that ceratopsians had their wrists facing each other instead of facing backwards", but the reviewer may not have caught everything and the review is from 2010.
Production techniques flaws can be understood even today in hand sculpted models. It is very difficult to make accurate scales in such tiny figures. So those figures tend to: not have scales but soft skin (like the Battat because they couldn't be visible at that scale) or tend to have oversized scales or stamped, texturized scales. I wouldn't say they are a flaw in the Battat as they are not in other figures, even today.
But there are many things that have been better understood in dinosaurs since 2010. The Battat's most obvious flaws are the sculpt of the limbs, hands and feet (nice for the toy it is, however) and yes, hands shouldn't be so pronated. The nostrils aren't believed to be in such position. As I have said, it is a wonderful figure probably one of the best accurate vintage figures.

thomasw100

Quote from: dinofelid on December 03, 2024, 06:49:04 PMThe PNSO wasn't advertised as 1:35, but it would be much too large for that scale, I did some measurements and compared it to the measurements given for a fairly complete skeleton on p. 167 of Peter Dodson's "The Horned Dinosaurs" (centrum  length 5.5-5.8 meters, femur length 83 cm, and height at the hips around 1.65 m) and it seems to be close to 1:25 scale. The Battat actually seems pretty close to 1:35 with 14 cm length, femur 2.5 cm, hip height 4.7 cm, but if HLG is also correct for a large size Styracosaurus at 1:35 scale I'll pick it up (sometimes HLG seems to depict individuals that are considerably smaller than the largest known for the genus, like with Edmontosaurus which the dinotoyblog review said was more like 1:45 for a large individual, or Maiasaura which the DinosDragons youtube review said was around 1:40).


The size estimates one finds for Styracosaurus typically are in the range of 5-6 meters, with many sources stating a size of 5.5 meters but with the added note that observations on some specimens indicate that Styracosaurus could have grown somewhat larger. So 5.5 meters would be about 16 cm in 1:35 scale. The PNSO figure is about 18 cm long, so this would represent an individual of between 6 and 6.5 meters. Certainly on the large end of the spectrum, but not impossible considering population statistics, e.g. the ratio between the largest individual of a species and the average size of a species. So for the PNSO figure slightly oversized probably yes, but much too large no.

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