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Nizar Ibrahim announces 2025 as "an exciting year for Spinosaurus"

Started by Duna, January 02, 2025, 06:48:11 PM

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crazy8wizard

iirc there were plenty more bones known when the 2020 tail paper was published, they just didn't have the funds/resources to excavate them.

Tracewyrm!

I only managed to pick up Aymen a couple months ago so kinda I hope there isn't more sweeping changes a la 2014 and 2020.  ;D

Though, maybe that's on me for buying a Spinosaurus figure, knowing what comes with the animal. Well, whatever it is, I'm interested.
* Hey, look Elly! Yours has more hidden underneath!

DefinitelyNOTDilo

Assuming these are the bones that have been previously mentioned, this will be a new species with a much larger crest, so no changes to Aymen should be needed.

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crazy8wizard

Quote from: Tracewyrm! on January 02, 2025, 09:51:15 PMI only managed to pick up Aymen a couple months ago so kinda I hope there isn't more sweeping changes a la 2014 and 2020.  ;D

Though, maybe that's on me for buying a Spinosaurus figure, knowing what comes with the animal. Well, whatever it is, I'm interested.

To be quite honest, most dinosaurs are going to be like that. Apatosaurus changed drastically, Stegosaurus changed drastically, the major difference is that more of the significant spinosaurus discoveries have happened within the last 20 years and we can remember it. I say collect what you like and if it happens to become outdated do what you will.

Tracewyrm!

Quote from: DefinitelyNOTDilo on January 02, 2025, 09:56:40 PMAssuming these are the bones that have been previously mentioned, this will be a new species with a much larger crest, so no changes to Aymen should be needed.
I remember hearing rumors of a spinosaurid crest floating around and if I had to guess I assume that's what the spino news in 2025 will be about, but you never know  :))
* Hey, look Elly! Yours has more hidden underneath!

Tracewyrm!

Quote from: crazy8wizard on January 02, 2025, 10:03:05 PMTo be quite honest, most dinosaurs are going to be like that. Apatosaurus changed drastically, Stegosaurus changed drastically, the major difference is that more of the significant spinosaurus discoveries have happened within the last 20 years and we can remember it. I say collect what you like and if it happens to become outdated do what you will.
Oh, absolutely. Even if Aymen ended up becoming outdated I'd still be stoked to have him. Accurate or not, it's a great model. It'd just be funny, like when I picked up Cameron only for PNSO to start making lipped theropods a week after.
I don't regret having them by any means, they're some of the best figures in my collection, but the timing's amusing, isn't it?  ^-^
* Hey, look Elly! Yours has more hidden underneath!

suspsy

I got Gregory Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Predatory Dinosaurs for Xmas. He argues that the original Spinosaurus holotype belonged to an allosauroid and that Ibrahim's findings are a chimera.

I hope 2025 makes him eat his words.
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GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: suspsy on January 02, 2025, 10:11:58 PMI got Gregory Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Predatory Dinosaurs for Xmas. He argues that the original Spinosaurus holotype belonged to an allosauroid and that Ibrahim's findings are a chimera.

I hope 2025 makes him eat his words.
Gregory paul splits T. rex into 3 species but thinks that essentially all of Centrosaurinae are one genus. Bro's becoming a peters tier crackpot
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crazy8wizard

Quote from: GojiraGuy1954 on January 02, 2025, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: suspsy on January 02, 2025, 10:11:58 PMI got Gregory Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Predatory Dinosaurs for Xmas. He argues that the original Spinosaurus holotype belonged to an allosauroid and that Ibrahim's findings are a chimera.

I hope 2025 makes him eat his words.
Gregory paul splits T. rex into 3 species but thinks that essentially all of Centrosaurinae are one genus. Bro's becoming a peters tier crackpot

I'm forever annoyed that the "List of informally named dinosaurs" page on wikipedia keeps getting longer with each Princeton Field Guide book.


Turkeysaurus

Best or worst part of collecting scientifically accurate dinosaurs is it's a never ending quest.

Whenever a dinosaur has a noticable change i must remind myself even museums exhibit out dated stuff.

Life is easy for movie/comics toy collectors.

Tracewyrm!

Quote from: Turkeysaurus on January 02, 2025, 10:58:08 PMLife is easy for movie/comics toy collectors.
I'm sure they have their own share of unique problems, but can you imagine? You pick up a new figure and then a writer comes out and tells everyone that the found new comics and the real Spider-Man turns out to be green, unable to shoot webs and has wings.
I don't know many other hobbies where a toy becoming scientifically outdated is something one has to accept as a part of the experience and I find that to be really interesting.
Like, most of us know that any given reconstruction on the market is likely to become outdated to some extent in the future but we collect them anyway. It's so cool
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MLMjp

He said the same in 2022, https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=10013.0

Yet nothing truly groundbreaking came out that year...If those new bones barely make any difference...


Sim

Quote from: DefinitelyNOTDilo on January 02, 2025, 09:56:40 PMAssuming these are the bones that have been previously mentioned, this will be a new species with a much larger crest, so no changes to Aymen should be needed.
The palaeontologists that teased the new Spinosaurus species are in the "Spinosaurus war" against Ibrahim (and Ibrahim is against them) if I remember correctly.  So I don't think Ibrahim is referring to the new Spinosaurus species.  I'm more interested in seeing the new Spinosaurus species published already than new bones of S. aegyptiacus!

SidB

Quote from: Tracewyrm! on January 02, 2025, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: crazy8wizard on January 02, 2025, 10:03:05 PMTo be quite honest, most dinosaurs are going to be like that. Apatosaurus changed drastically, Stegosaurus changed drastically, the major difference is that more of the significant spinosaurus discoveries have happened within the last 20 years and we can remember it. I say collect what you like and if it happens to become outdated do what you will.
Oh, absolutely. Even if Aymen ended up becoming outdated I'd still be stoked to have him. Accurate or not, it's a great model. It'd just be funny, like when I picked up Cameron only for PNSO to start making lipped theropods a week after.
I don't regret having them by any means, they're some of the best figures in my collection, but the timing's amusing, isn't it?  ^-^
Hopefully a new species of Spinosaurus emerging rather than yet another change to S. aegyptiacus, so Aymen will remain unscathed. Or at least internal changes that won't alter the external appearance. BTW, you might want to get your Cameron "lipped". I'm very glad that I took that step.

Shane

Quote from: suspsy on January 02, 2025, 10:11:58 PMI got Gregory Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Predatory Dinosaurs for Xmas. He argues that the original Spinosaurus holotype belonged to an allosauroid and that Ibrahim's findings are a chimera.

I hope 2025 makes him eat his words.

I still have a soft spot for Paul because I love his illustrations and grew up admiring his work, but yeah he's really set in his ways about how he wants to combine wildly disparate dinosaurs under a single genera, or split similar dinos into multiple species, or how he simply refuses to acknowledge any Spinosaurus discoveries of the last dozen or so years.

oscars_dinos

new material for spino... yeah this is why I hold off on getting any figures of this dino

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