David Krentz Dinosaurs

[postsaurischian]

Judith feels blue because she should be replaced by a latest-fashion-feathered younger girl.



More pics here .

[KeU]

His shapeways models.
Those are 3d printed using granular polymers.
I always thought his Antediluvia Collection are similar too.

I am curious. What is the difference between the regular releases David has been doing and the Antediluvia Collection?
I am hoping for a 1/40 Acrocanthosaurus.

The Antediluvians were resin cast models, in a 1/72 scale. What do you mean by "regular releases"? Do you mean his Shapeways models, or his Saurozoic kits?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Judith feels blue because she should be replaced by a latest-fashion-feathered younger girl.



More pics here .

She still looks beautiful to me !

[postsaurischian]

She still looks beautiful to me !

She's the most beautiful girl in the world !

[tyrantqueen]

Look, new Chubbies on Shapeways

[Simon]

Blue makes sense - she is cold from ice skating all these years 

[krentz]

I like David Krentz as a sculptor but I can't stand his tiny Shapeways dinosaurs. I understand that he wants them to be affordable - but several other sellers on Shapeways have the same dino available in two sizes - a cheap one in 1/72 scale and a more expensive one (same exact pose) in 1/40 scale.
So Mr. Krentz - for those of us who would really like and can afford the larger models - could you please offer your Shapeways dinosaurs in 1/40 scale as well?

Daspletodave

  If I offered many of my dinos as 1/40 on Shapeways you would a) pay more for them than if they were resin and b) have worse quality than if they were resin. 

  I have done test prints for myself of some of my models in 1/40 and I just can't rationalize why I should do that.  At the most affordable simple white strong and flexible material almost the ENITRE SIDE of some models are devoid of details.  In makes me nuts when my dinos only have ONE EYE.  Also, in the upper quality materials, there is often a great deal of inconsistency in quality and guaranteed they will be more expensive than resin. 
 
  For example, I often choose a 30 footish dinosaur to do experiments of scale and cost with.  I chose my Bistahieversor.  It is a hollow ( to reduce cost) 1/40 model on Shapeways that I made available only to myself.  In the most basic WSF material it costs ME $35.  In White detail it costs me $75.  In Ultra fine detail it costs me close to $90.  THose prices do not include my profit margin, which I can assure you is waaaaaaaaay to low.

  The same high quality print model in a resin cast costs me FAR LESS than a sub par WSF version from Shapeways.  When I add profit to that number its about the same as the WSF version, and that includes a base which if I included in the Shapeways models would make the price go even higher and would most likely not hold the model up for all that long.  I feel a little bit handcuffed when doing poses for Shapeways.

  So, am I trying to talk you out of buying my Shapeways stuff?  No, but I would like people to be informed about it.  They are not the best representation of my work, and as an artist I like the occasional pat on the head.  I'll still put them up there, and if you reeeeealllly want 1/40 I'll post those too, but only after I've released them as kits. 
  Some of the 1/72 and 1/144 still look great in Ultra Detail on Shapeways, and the Chubbies look really awesome and are super durable. Detail material is hard to paint as some of you have found out.
   Shapeways is a great opportunity for people to get their stuff out there, and it is really quite cool that a machine created it!  I would encourage anyone to try it.  However, to the people on this forum who really want the best they can get -quality wise- resins are still the best bet.  A little bit of glue didn't hurt anyone ;-)

  I'll most likely have to post some comparison pictures of resin and Shapeways prints. 

[krentz]

Oh yea, here are some pics of the new Chubbies on Shapeways.  Oh the irony after that last post...but, these things really work well with that service.  My kids have STILL not broken the Allosaurs in the polished materials!  These are about $20 each.  Seriously, polished is the way to go.  Dilpo is about 4.25 inches long and Brachi is 3.25 inches tall.


Here is the Shapeways link

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/krentz

[tyrantqueen]

I like David Krentz as a sculptor but I can't stand his tiny Shapeways dinosaurs. I understand that he wants them to be affordable - but several other sellers on Shapeways have the same dino available in two sizes - a cheap one in 1/72 scale and a more expensive one (same exact pose) in 1/40 scale.
So Mr. Krentz - for those of us who would really like and can afford the larger models - could you please offer your Shapeways dinosaurs in 1/40 scale as well?

Daspletodave

  If I offered many of my dinos as 1/40 on Shapeways you would a) pay more for them than if they were resin and b) have worse quality than if they were resin. 

  I have done test prints for myself of some of my models in 1/40 and I just can't rationalize why I should do that.  At the most affordable simple white strong and flexible material almost the ENITRE SIDE of some models are devoid of details.  In makes me nuts when my dinos only have ONE EYE.  Also, in the upper quality materials, there is often a great deal of inconsistency in quality and guaranteed they will be more expensive than resin. 
 
  For example, I often choose a 30 footish dinosaur to do experiments of scale and cost with.  I chose my Bistahieversor.  It is a hollow ( to reduce cost) 1/40 model on Shapeways that I made available only to myself.  In the most basic WSF material it costs ME $35.  In White detail it costs me $75.  In Ultra fine detail it costs me close to $90.  THose prices do not include my profit margin, which I can assure you is waaaaaaaaay to low.

  The same high quality print model in a resin cast costs me FAR LESS than a sub par WSF version from Shapeways.  When I add profit to that number its about the same as the WSF version, and that includes a base which if I included in the Shapeways models would make the price go even higher and would most likely not hold the model up for all that long.  I feel a little bit handcuffed when doing poses for Shapeways.

  So, am I trying to talk you out of buying my Shapeways stuff?  No, but I would like people to be informed about it.  They are not the best representation of my work, and as an artist I like the occasional pat on the head.  I'll still put them up there, and if you reeeeealllly want 1/40 I'll post those too, but only after I've released them as kits. 
  Some of the 1/72 and 1/144 still look great in Ultra Detail on Shapeways, and the Chubbies look really awesome and are super durable. Detail material is hard to paint as some of you have found out.
   Shapeways is a great opportunity for people to get their stuff out there, and it is really quite cool that a machine created it!  I would encourage anyone to try it.  However, to the people on this forum who really want the best they can get -quality wise- resins are still the best bet.  A little bit of glue didn't hurt anyone ;-)

  I'll most likely have to post some comparison pictures of resin and Shapeways prints.

Wow, never realised it was that bad Kits seem like the way to go, then

[krentz]

  "Wow, never realised it was that bad  Kits seem like the way to go, then "

  I seem to recall that you ( TyrantQueen) were also dissatisfied by some of the detail loss with Shapeways. 

  It is amazing to see all the great stuff that members here are doing.  I DO NOT want to discourage people from buying their work!!!  From some of the paint ups I've seen they look really great, and Shapeways is the best most economical way for the creator to do multiple poses for dioramas and offer more creatures more quickly without having to wait for the costs and time of resin casting to hinder them. 

  D

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

David if you are planning on releasing all your pieces in 1/40 eventually then I can certainly wait to get them..been holding out this long for the rest of them right ? 

[krentz]

A new thought out pose for the Therizinosaurus.  I adjusted a bunch of proportions, double checked anatomy, etc, etc...and created a pose that was a little more conservative.  I wanted to capture a big goofy waddling turkey in the pose though.  I'll tweak the hands and feet a little but this is pretty much what I've decided on.
This will for sure be in 1/40 Saurozoic Collection. 

[tyrantqueen]

This is going to be the best Therizinosaurus ever made thus far

[Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus]

This is going to be the best Therizinosaurus ever made thus far

Ditto. 

[krentz]

1/40 scale generic Dromaeosaurs to be sold as a set on Shapeways. All those "feathers" cover up anatomical details to differentiate species, and at this scale ( each will be roughly 4cm long, for a 5-6 foot long dromeasaur) small differences wouldn't even be detectable anyway! I had to make them very chunky looking so they would print. I will vary their sizes a bit-for more variety- and make little bases. These are for adding some ambiance to dioramas.

  I think Oviraptorids are next.

[Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus]

Lovely set, David!

[krentz]

Oh yea, I have a Mamenchisaurus sinocanadorum in the works too.  Most likely shapeways first. 

D

[Zelan]

The therizinosaurus is really nice, definately one of my favourite dinosaurs. I'm with TQ that it will be the best therizinosaurus out yet. I'm surprised there aren't more toys and models of it made already.

What happened to the 1/40 spinosaurus? Will that be made into a resin kit too?

[tyrantqueen]

The therizinosaurus is really nice, definately one of my favourite dinosaurs. I'm with TQ that it will be the best therizinosaurus out yet. I'm surprised there aren't more toys and models of it made already.

What happened to the 1/40 spinosaurus? Will that be made into a resin kit too?

I think it's in the process of being printed, and then we just have to wait for the casting and molding be completed (I think). I'm personally the most excited for the Spinosaurus, even though I'm not that much of Spino fan

[Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus]

Oh yea, I have a Mamenchisaurus sinocanadorum in the works too.  Most likely shapeways first. 

D

Please, is it 1/40 at least?!