Safari Ltd - new for 2014

[tyrantqueen]

Yeah,wasn't 2014 Carnegie's 'glorious year to wow us'? 
Well,in June or so I thought Carnegue was going to release about 4 new sculpts for 2014.If Carnegie thinks that they'll wow us releasing only a figure per year,they're very wrong.Imagine the lineup for 2014 fpr the Carnegie Collection would be this:
This Tyrannosaurus,a feathered Velociraptor,a completely brand new Allosaurus , an amazing,highly anticipated,Apatosaurus and a repaint of the Microraptor.(The theropods without tripod pose,of course).Wouldn't that be an amazing year for Carnegie.
I guess w'all would say 'WOW' if so.
And if they knew that they were going to introduce only a Tyrannosaurus rex and they knew that the Velociraptor (?) was likely to be delayed,they at least could have the detail of doing it without 'tripod stance',no?
I really didn't care for tripods,but now the issue is beginning to annoy me.So what's the problem uf they continue with those tripods?None of their theropods will be original.
If we really are very very tired,we seriously should contact Forest Rogers or Safari Ltd. and tell them the tripod issue.And  if they say that if they don't put the theropods in a tripod pose,they'll fall over,we may should post an image of the CollectA Proceratosaurus (a figure of a theropod dinosaur which has correctly sized feet and does stand perfectly).
And didn't Masiakasaurus say:'I think people will be happy with the 2 new Carngies despite the fact that they're safe bets for a wide appeal'?
If he said 'wide appeal' is because he saw at least something of the other Carnegie,I guess.So,I wouldn't mind if they reveal it later,given that we knew that Carnegie was going to introduce more than a sculpt for 2014.
Another point is that I d

There's no point to doing such a thing. They won't listen to us (and in Forest Rogers' case, she only sculpts what she is told to, she doesn't have any power over the sculpt itself)

[Lio991]

Yeah,wasn't 2014 Carnegie's 'glorious year to wow us'? 
Well,in June or so I thought Carnegue was going to release about 4 new sculpts for 2014.If Carnegie thinks that they'll wow us releasing only a figure per year,they're very wrong.Imagine the lineup for 2014 fpr the Carnegie Collection would be this:
This Tyrannosaurus,a feathered Velociraptor,a completely brand new Allosaurus , an amazing,highly anticipated,Apatosaurus and a repaint of the Microraptor.(The theropods without tripod pose,of course).Wouldn't that be an amazing year for Carnegie.
I guess w'all would say 'WOW' if so.
And if they knew that they were going to introduce only a Tyrannosaurus rex and they knew that the Velociraptor (?) was likely to be delayed,they at least could have the detail of doing it without 'tripod stance',no?
I really didn't care for tripods,but now the issue is beginning to annoy me.So what's the problem uf they continue with those tripods?None of their theropods will be original.
If we really are very very tired,we seriously should contact Forest Rogers or Safari Ltd. and tell them the tripod issue.And  if they say that if they don't put the theropods in a tripod pose,they'll fall over,we may should post an image of the CollectA Proceratosaurus (a figure of a theropod dinosaur which has correctly sized feet and does stand perfectly).
And didn't Masiakasaurus say:'I think people will be happy with the 2 new Carngies despite the fact that they're safe bets for a wide appeal'?
If he said 'wide appeal' is because he saw at least something of the other Carnegie,I guess.So,I wouldn't mind if they reveal it later,given that we knew that Carnegie was going to introduce more than a sculpt for 2014.
Another point is that I d

There's no point to doing such a thing. They won't listen to us (and in Forest Rogers' case, she only sculpts what she is told to, she doesn't have any power over the sculpt itself)

Well she must like have a say in it mite aswell try.

[tyrantqueen]

Yeah,wasn't 2014 Carnegie's 'glorious year to wow us'? 
Well,in June or so I thought Carnegue was going to release about 4 new sculpts for 2014.If Carnegie thinks that they'll wow us releasing only a figure per year,they're very wrong.Imagine the lineup for 2014 fpr the Carnegie Collection would be this:
This Tyrannosaurus,a feathered Velociraptor,a completely brand new Allosaurus , an amazing,highly anticipated,Apatosaurus and a repaint of the Microraptor.(The theropods without tripod pose,of course).Wouldn't that be an amazing year for Carnegie.
I guess w'all would say 'WOW' if so.
And if they knew that they were going to introduce only a Tyrannosaurus rex and they knew that the Velociraptor (?) was likely to be delayed,they at least could have the detail of doing it without 'tripod stance',no?
I really didn't care for tripods,but now the issue is beginning to annoy me.So what's the problem uf they continue with those tripods?None of their theropods will be original.
If we really are very very tired,we seriously should contact Forest Rogers or Safari Ltd. and tell them the tripod issue.And  if they say that if they don't put the theropods in a tripod pose,they'll fall over,we may should post an image of the CollectA Proceratosaurus (a figure of a theropod dinosaur which has correctly sized feet and does stand perfectly).
And didn't Masiakasaurus say:'I think people will be happy with the 2 new Carngies despite the fact that they're safe bets for a wide appeal'?
If he said 'wide appeal' is because he saw at least something of the other Carnegie,I guess.So,I wouldn't mind if they reveal it later,given that we knew that Carnegie was going to introduce more than a sculpt for 2014.
Another point is that I d

There's no point to doing such a thing. They won't listen to us (and in Forest Rogers' case, she only sculpts what she is told to, she doesn't have any power over the sculpt itself)

Well she must like have a say in it mite aswell try.

She doesn't. Doug Watson (sculptor for Safari) tried to suggest to Safari that the theropods feet were too large, but it didn't make any difference, because Safari still wants big feet so their theropods can stand by themselves. What makes you think Carnegie is going to be any different?

[Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus]

Yeah,wasn't 2014 Carnegie's 'glorious year to wow us'? 
Well,in June or so I thought Carnegue was going to release about 4 new sculpts for 2014.If Carnegie thinks that they'll wow us releasing only a figure per year,they're very wrong.Imagine the lineup for 2014 fpr the Carnegie Collection would be this:
This Tyrannosaurus,a feathered Velociraptor,a completely brand new Allosaurus , an amazing,highly anticipated,Apatosaurus and a repaint of the Microraptor.(The theropods without tripod pose,of course).Wouldn't that be an amazing year for Carnegie.
I guess w'all would say 'WOW' if so.
And if they knew that they were going to introduce only a Tyrannosaurus rex and they knew that the Velociraptor (?) was likely to be delayed,they at least could have the detail of doing it without 'tripod stance',no?
I really didn't care for tripods,but now the issue is beginning to annoy me.So what's the problem uf they continue with those tripods?None of their theropods will be original.
If we really are very very tired,we seriously should contact Forest Rogers or Safari Ltd. and tell them the tripod issue.And  if they say that if they don't put the theropods in a tripod pose,they'll fall over,we may should post an image of the CollectA Proceratosaurus (a figure of a theropod dinosaur which has correctly sized feet and does stand perfectly).
And didn't Masiakasaurus say:'I think people will be happy with the 2 new Carngies despite the fact that they're safe bets for a wide appeal'?
If he said 'wide appeal' is because he saw at least something of the other Carnegie,I guess.So,I wouldn't mind if they reveal it later,given that we knew that Carnegie was going to introduce more than a sculpt for 2014.
Another point is that I d

There's no point to doing such a thing. They won't listen to us (and in Forest Rogers' case, she only sculpts what she is told to, she doesn't have any power over the sculpt itself)

Well she must like have a say in it mite aswell try.

She doesn't. Doug Watson (sculptor for Safari) tried to suggest to Safari that the theropods feet were too large, but it didn't make any difference, because Safari still wants big feet so their theropods can stand by themselves. What makes you think Carnegie is going to be any different?

I agree with TQ. Carnegie is scientifically pretty accurate, but in the end, they, like all toy companies, are driven by what sells and makes money, and probably won't change their ways for a minor population called the DTF that is worried about accuracy.

[Hermes888]

Why would people who care so much about accuracy prefer clown-sized feet over the tripod pose?

In my opinion, sending a message to Safari/Forest Rogers over the stance is both trivial and pointless.

[Gwangi]

Why would people who care so much about accuracy prefer clown-sized feet over the tripod pose?

In my opinion, sending a message to Safari/Forest Rogers over the stance is both trivial and pointless.

Speaking only for myself I will tell you why I prefer the large feet over the tripod pose. The tripod pose limits you to only one position for the animal, a position the animal was unlikely to take. All these theropods standing upright with their heads tilted and roaring off to the side does not make for a natural looking or dynamic sculpt in my mind. The large feet (while unfortunate) still allow the animal to stand in a natural way. Personally, I will buy a tripod figure if it looks good but yeah, it is getting a bit repetitive. To each their own though, both are inaccurate means to make the toy stand without a base. It is up to the collector to decide which is committing the greater sin. I want my dinosaurs horizontal and more dynamic but I'll take a nicely made tripod figure too (I really need to get the Carnegie Carnotaurus and Spinosaurus still). What I also would like...more closed mouth theropods.

[CityRaptor]

Thanks for the confirmation, Mr. Watson. I also agree that your Theropods don't have clown feet.

[Doug Watson]

Thanks for the confirmation, Mr. Watson. I also agree that your Theropods don't have clown feet.

Hey, please call me Doug, thanks by the way.

[CityRaptor]

You are welcome, Doug.

By the way: Can you also confirm if Safari instructs Forest Rogers to use the Tripod stance? Ofcourse you should not if it might get you into trouble.

[CityRaptor]

Okay. Still thanks, Doug.

Now for my opinion regarding the Safari Figures for 2014 ( Can't belive I haven't done that yet.)

Tyrannosaurus: Looking good so far. Since I don't have any Version of the Carnegie Tyrannosaurus yet, I might aswell take this one.

WS Dinosaurs: Three excellent pieces. Thinking about getting all three.

WS Sea Creatures: I like the Ammonite, but the Megalodon is just a Great White Shark. Should have gone with Hybodus instead.

Cavemen: Not interested in those guys. 

[John]

For Doug Watson,what species of ammonite is that for the Wild Safari line coming next year? 

[ebowie]

On the subject of inexplicable omissions: How many Mammoths are on the market right now?.....and not ONE Mastodon? Come on guys there are more than other ice age mammals .... also ....will anybody ever present a smilodon that's not a joke??

[KeU]

On the subject of inexplicable omissions: How many Mammoths are on the market right now?.....and not ONE Mastodon? Come on guys there are more than other ice age mammals .... also ....will anybody ever present a smilodon that's not a joke??

Didn't PAPO do a Smilodon? I thought that one was ok.

[Simon]

Yeah Doug - with the same parent company you don't want to risk being associated with members of the local DTF riff-raff that isn't too fond of Ms. Rodgers' theropods (of which I am the most vocal member)       

[Splonkadumpocus]

On the subject of inexplicable omissions: How many Mammoths are on the market right now?.....and not ONE Mastodon? Come on guys there are more than other ice age mammals .... also ....will anybody ever present a smilodon that's not a joke??

Yeah, a mastodon would really be nice. And Arctodus is way overdue to get a model as well. I can't imagine why an eleven-foot-tall bear capable of outrunning a horse wouldn't be interesting enough.

[Simon]

Hi Doug.  I know I suggested that I would prefer to have you doing models for both companies, but if that is how Carnegie is gonna tell you how to sculpt a dino (ie in a "pooping" or "egg-laying" tripod pose) then there isn't much you can do about it as a sculptor....

Based on her non-theropod work, as well as on her (non-leg) work on the latest TRex, I have no doubt that Ms. Rodgers could do a slam-bang horizontal theropod if given the chance.  And thicker legs if instructed to do so.

I guess the real problem is with the person(s) at Carnegie who commission these pieces ....

...I apologize if I "shot the messenger" in my frustration over the latest Carnegie ("almost-epic") TRex ....

[tyrantqueen]

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Who would that be?

[amargasaurus cazaui]

For my own collection I try and make the best of things. I try to appreciate the figures I like or find to fit my particular likes and tastes, and accept that not all dinosaurs are going to be made perfectly accurate or sculpted so they can please everyone. I do not believe it possible to produce dinosaur figures that will satisfy each and every person, because some prefer the oversized feet while others do not mind the tripod style pose. I am surprised it has not become commonplace to just provide a little clear U shaped pedestal to cradle the tail for the theropods. It would be small, inexpensive, and could be rendered from clear plastic so as to provide no interference with the view or display of the dinosaur. .....
  I will say thanks for your hard work Doug, and I myself appreciate the dinosaur figures being offered. The market is so rich and full with dinosaur figures compared to when I was a kid. I wish I had been given this many choices when I was younger. I hope you keep turning them out for years to come !!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Sorry for not being around so much, I've had a lot on my plate with my business.

I think artists in general learn to have a tough skin, but that doesn't mean we should be overly harsh with our criticism, only analytical.  We don't want to lead to  " bashing "of an artist or their work.  The DTF has been criticized in the past for doing just this.  We don't put up with personal attacks here and that should extend to the artists who put themselves out there and create .  Be understanding of a commissioned artist's position, and above all be tactful and helpful when criticizing others work.

[DinoToyForum]

Sorry for not being around so much, I've had a lot on my plate with my business.

I think artists in general learn to have a tough skin, but that doesn't mean we should be overly harsh with our criticism, only analytical.  We don't want to lead to  " bashing "of an artist or their work.  The DTF has been criticized in the past for doing just this.  We don't put up with personal attacks here and that should extend to the artists who put themselves out there and create .  Be understanding of a commissioned artist's position, and above all be tactful and helpful when criticizing others work.

Well said