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Safari Ltd - new for 2014

Started by Everything_Dinosaur, September 03, 2013, 08:20:29 PM

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Takama

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I watched an Episode on Youtube.   I nearly puked out my sanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu8Ve-3N2Ho&list=FLqxbNmbNtLXi3XwXcz19ymQ
That was the worst Thing that I ever watched that had to do with dinosaurs. (And I seen Speckles, WWD 2013, and Theodore Rex)


Balaur

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on December 31, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Balaur on December 31, 2013, 06:16:01 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on December 31, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
Quote from: KeU on December 31, 2013, 03:39:16 PM
I guess not everyone of us here has watched that abomination of a show called Monster Resurrected.

Unless someone was being sarcastic.. lol

I watched it on tv..it was..entertaining at the least. ;)

I fell asleep within 10 minutes. Just overplaying footage, and I still hate it!

I have too many things on my mind to hate a tv show I could turn off..lol but I get your point.  I just had it on while I was working so I didn't catch much replying...and hey, a day watch bad dinosaurs is still better than a day without them at all right  ?  ;)

What I meant is that they kept on overplaying footage. Clash of the Dinosaurs was much worse though. And yes, a day of watching dinosaurs is better then a day without then. ;)

KeU

Most would learn to avoid after spending some time watching Monster Resurrected.
But I had to watch another episode on Acrocanthosaurus.
Talk about once bitten twice shy.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Balaur on December 31, 2013, 07:59:15 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on December 31, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Balaur on December 31, 2013, 06:16:01 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on December 31, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
Quote from: KeU on December 31, 2013, 03:39:16 PM
I guess not everyone of us here has watched that abomination of a show called Monster Resurrected.

Unless someone was being sarcastic.. lol

I watched it on tv..it was..entertaining at the least. ;)

I fell asleep within 10 minutes. Just overplaying footage, and I still hate it!

I have too many things on my mind to hate a tv show I could turn off..lol but I get your point.  I just had it on while I was working so I didn't catch much replying...and hey, a day watch bad dinosaurs is still better than a day without them at all right  ?  ;)

What I meant is that they kept on overplaying footage. Clash of the Dinosaurs was much worse though. And yes, a day of watching dinosaurs is better then a day without then. ;)

Ah, yeah Clash was pretty bad. the cg was okay..but way overused.

leidy

Quote from: tyrantqueen on December 31, 2013, 04:10:41 AM
Why is Spinosaurus always given such a long tail? An adaptation for swimming? Do we even have its tail verts?

T.rex used to be given a longer tail.  You'll see some of the length estimates of 14 metres or so in older books.  I believe they were using Allosaurus as a model.  Later on they compared it to its closer relative Albertosaurus and reduced the length accordingly.  When the first complete T.rex tails were found in the 90s, it was more in line with the reduced estimate.

As far as I'm aware, no one has found a complete spinosaur tail to date, so that limits the accuracy of the estimates.  They're probably still using Allosaurus, that's what the NHM did with their Baryonyx skeleton.

I think from a biomechanical standpoint it's still quite likely that spinosaurs had relatively long tails.  Look at how front-heavy they must've been.  They need to counterbalance that long snout, those long arms, and in some cases the bony sail. 

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: leidy on January 01, 2014, 03:00:36 AM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on December 31, 2013, 04:10:41 AM
Why is Spinosaurus always given such a long tail? An adaptation for swimming? Do we even have its tail verts?

T.rex used to be given a longer tail.  You'll see some of the length estimates of 14 metres or so in older books.  I believe they were using Allosaurus as a model.  Later on they compared it to its closer relative Albertosaurus and reduced the length accordingly.  When the first complete T.rex tails were found in the 90s, it was more in line with the reduced estimate.

As far as I'm aware, no one has found a complete spinosaur tail to date, so that limits the accuracy of the estimates.  They're probably still using Allosaurus, that's what the NHM did with their Baryonyx skeleton.

I think from a biomechanical standpoint it's still quite likely that spinosaurs had relatively long tails.  Look at how front-heavy they must've been.  They need to counterbalance that long snout, those long arms, and in some cases the bony sail.

Spinosaurus also had shorter legs so that would balance them better..if longer tails were needed to balance it makes sense tyrannosaurs would also have them..especially Rex to counter that huge head.

tyrantqueen

Quote from: leidy on January 01, 2014, 03:00:36 AM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on December 31, 2013, 04:10:41 AM
Why is Spinosaurus always given such a long tail? An adaptation for swimming? Do we even have its tail verts?

T.rex used to be given a longer tail.  You'll see some of the length estimates of 14 metres or so in older books.  I believe they were using Allosaurus as a model.  Later on they compared it to its closer relative Albertosaurus and reduced the length accordingly.  When the first complete T.rex tails were found in the 90s, it was more in line with the reduced estimate.

As far as I'm aware, no one has found a complete spinosaur tail to date, so that limits the accuracy of the estimates.  They're probably still using Allosaurus, that's what the NHM did with their Baryonyx skeleton.

I think from a biomechanical standpoint it's still quite likely that spinosaurs had relatively long tails.  Look at how front-heavy they must've been.  They need to counterbalance that long snout, those long arms, and in some cases the bony sail.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I remember Jack Horner's Complete T.rex book mentioning the tail issue.

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leidy

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 01, 2014, 04:14:50 AM
Quote from: leidy on January 01, 2014, 03:00:36 AM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on December 31, 2013, 04:10:41 AM
Why is Spinosaurus always given such a long tail? An adaptation for swimming? Do we even have its tail verts?

T.rex used to be given a longer tail.  You'll see some of the length estimates of 14 metres or so in older books.  I believe they were using Allosaurus as a model.  Later on they compared it to its closer relative Albertosaurus and reduced the length accordingly.  When the first complete T.rex tails were found in the 90s, it was more in line with the reduced estimate.

As far as I'm aware, no one has found a complete spinosaur tail to date, so that limits the accuracy of the estimates.  They're probably still using Allosaurus, that's what the NHM did with their Baryonyx skeleton.

I think from a biomechanical standpoint it's still quite likely that spinosaurs had relatively long tails.  Look at how front-heavy they must've been.  They need to counterbalance that long snout, those long arms, and in some cases the bony sail.

Spinosaurus also had shorter legs so that would balance them better..if longer tails were needed to balance it makes sense tyrannosaurs would also have them..especially Rex to counter that huge head.

T.rex has a massive head, but allosaurus has a relatively longer torso, longer neck, and much longer arms.  I don't see how short legs would affect balance much.  It just means that if they tipped over they wouldn't do as much damage to themselves.

Posture is another aspect.  According to Greg Paul, Therizinosaurs had a more upright posture which can be judged from the angle the vertebrae met the hips.  This is presumably why they can have relatively shorter tails, despite their long arms and long necks.  Large carnivorous theropods apparently had more of a forward lean, presumably to get at prey. 

tanystropheus

Quote from: SBell on December 30, 2013, 05:46:06 AM
Quote from: tanystropheus on December 29, 2013, 09:39:04 PM
T-rex does look good, despite the lack of texture details (glazed surface), but it almost looks like it has a ventral hernia  ???

Given how skinny it looks, maybe it's just loss of muscle tissue? ;)

But seriously the poor thing looks a little starved--where is the massive muscle at the base of the tail?

LOL. They should have used some of that ventral hernia excess to build a suitable mass for the base of the tail. The head of the figure is marvelous (even the inner mouth/tongue is pretty detailed)...and a return to gold eyes...but the body looks rather small in comparison to the head ...

tyrantqueen

Quote from: tanystropheus on January 02, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Quote from: SBell on December 30, 2013, 05:46:06 AM
Quote from: tanystropheus on December 29, 2013, 09:39:04 PM
T-rex does look good, despite the lack of texture details (glazed surface), but it almost looks like it has a ventral hernia  ???

Given how skinny it looks, maybe it's just loss of muscle tissue? ;)

But seriously the poor thing looks a little starved--where is the massive muscle at the base of the tail?

LOL. They should have used some of that ventral hernia excess to build a suitable mass for the base of the tail. The head of the figure is marvelous (even the inner mouth/tongue is pretty detailed)...and a return to gold eyes...but the body looks rather small in comparison to the head ...
I agree...I'm not sure why the tail is even skinnier than the Anniversary rex's was. Feels like a step backwards to me.

Blade-of-the-Moon

The body to head ratio is about right for a specimen such as Stan. He has a BIG head even for a Rex.

The tail is a bit leaner than expected..but not too terrible.  A skilled customizer could take this new Rex and the older An. Rex and switch the heads, feather it us and make a pretty neat figure.


Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus

"I believe implicitly that every young man in the world is fascinated with either sharks or dinosaurs."
-Peter Benchley


alexeratops

Quote from: Concavenator on January 02, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
Here's a photo of all Safari's 2014 (including the Ammonite):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151925616374023&set=a.10151671048174023.1073741853.99131379022&type=1&relevant_count=1

Ammonite looks nice. I might get that, along with every other Safari except for the Megalodon. :D
like a bantha!

Blade-of-the-Moon

I think they are all must-buys aside from the Meg..which will probably be one most of us collectors ignore and all the kids will pick up due to name. ;)

leidy

I'll probably pass on the Suchomimus as well.  It's alright but doesn't really do it for me.  I don't see any obvious complaints, but something about the texturing seems a bit repetitive.  I like the Monolophosaurus a lot better.

Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus

Quote from: leidy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:52 AM
I'll probably pass on the Suchomimus as well.  It's alright but doesn't really do it for me.  I don't see any obvious complaints, but something about the texturing seems a bit repetitive.  I like the Monolophosaurus a lot better.
Yes, exactly. Same here. The Sucho looked great in the stock photo, but in real life it just doesn't impress me like the Mono.
"I believe implicitly that every young man in the world is fascinated with either sharks or dinosaurs."
-Peter Benchley

Blade-of-the-Moon

The Sucho has a great crocodilian feel to it's textures . The arms are nice and thick as proven by the skeleton and the muscle attachments.  Could have more patterns and paint apps..but that's fixable.  It's mouth could easily hold a prey item, pterosaur, fish, croc you name it.

tyrantqueen

I'm debating whether I should wait for the new T.rex or just bite the bullet and order from the US now. Does anyone have any idea when it will be released in Europe? Thanks :)

Concavenator

Quote from: tyrantqueen on January 03, 2014, 06:31:25 PM
I'm debating whether I should wait for the new T.rex or just bite the bullet and order from the US now. Does anyone have any idea when it will be released in Europe? Thanks :)
In the catalogue it said it would be available in January,but it seems it's now available and even some people already have it on their hands.Maybe they meant it'd available worldwide by January.
However,if you can pick it up,I personally would.I happen to be a very slow collector,and I get sometimes very impatient in some aspects,overall new releases or new figures.It's me,that I'm a little impatient,hence my suggestion  :)
Obviously,make what you will.

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