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Whale Evolution

Started by Yutyrannus, August 17, 2014, 02:20:32 AM

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Yutyrannus

#20
August 17, 2014, 04:52:33 AM
Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 04:49:33 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on August 17, 2014, 04:45:59 AM
Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 04:40:16 AM
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Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 04:15:45 AM
Whale skulls don't have them.

Are you talking about the tiny pits above the premolars? Or the. Large holes on the lower jaw, those are nerve openings.
I never said modern whales have them.

The tiny pits.

I know, someone asked if whales had pits.

Ok.
They said embryonic whales had whiskers.

I ment whale skulls.  :-[
I know.

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Ultimatedinoking

#21
August 17, 2014, 04:52:52 AM
Ok
I may not like feathered dinosaurs and stumpy legged Spinosaurs, but I will keep those opinions to myself, I will not start a debate over it, I promise. 😇
-UDK

stargatedalek

#22
August 17, 2014, 05:12:32 AM
Pits are more indicative of functioning whiskers, whereas embryonic whiskers seem vestigial in cetacea

Ultimatedinoking

#23
August 17, 2014, 05:14:28 AM
Quote from: stargatedalek on August 17, 2014, 05:12:32 AM
Pits are more indicative of functioning whiskers, whereas embryonic whiskers seem vestigial in cetacea

Like chicken teeth.
I may not like feathered dinosaurs and stumpy legged Spinosaurs, but I will keep those opinions to myself, I will not start a debate over it, I promise. 😇
-UDK

Yutyrannus

#24
August 17, 2014, 05:28:24 AM
Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 05:14:28 AM
Quote from: stargatedalek on August 17, 2014, 05:12:32 AM
Pits are more indicative of functioning whiskers, whereas embryonic whiskers seem vestigial in cetacea

Like chicken teeth.
Yes. So if modern cetaceans have embryonic whiskers than their ancestors must have had them at some point, right?

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Ultimatedinoking

#25
August 17, 2014, 05:33:57 AM
Right.
I may not like feathered dinosaurs and stumpy legged Spinosaurs, but I will keep those opinions to myself, I will not start a debate over it, I promise. 😇
-UDK

Yutyrannus

#26
August 17, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
Okay, so my guess is Pakicetus probably had them, but what about Maiacetus?

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Ultimatedinoking

#27
August 17, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on August 17, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
Okay, so my guess is Pakicetus probably had them, but what about Maiacetus?

Mom whale? Maybe.
I may not like feathered dinosaurs and stumpy legged Spinosaurs, but I will keep those opinions to myself, I will not start a debate over it, I promise. 😇
-UDK

Balaur

#28
August 17, 2014, 05:44:24 AM
Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on August 17, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
Okay, so my guess is Pakicetus probably had them, but what about Maiacetus?

Mom whale? Maybe.

I'm thinking like those seen in the manatee.

Yutyrannus

#29
August 17, 2014, 05:45:17 AM
I'm not sure, because it seems Maiacetus is more closely related to Rodhocetus and other more advanced proto-whales than to Ambulocetus, Pakicetus and their relatives.

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Yutyrannus

#30
August 17, 2014, 05:46:24 AM
Quote from: Balaur on August 17, 2014, 05:44:24 AM
Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on August 17, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
Okay, so my guess is Pakicetus probably had them, but what about Maiacetus?

Mom whale? Maybe.

I'm thinking like those seen in the manatee.
Perhaps, although they would have had quite different lifestyles.

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Balaur

#31
August 17, 2014, 05:48:42 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on August 17, 2014, 05:46:24 AM
Quote from: Balaur on August 17, 2014, 05:44:24 AM
Quote from: Ultimatedinoking on August 17, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on August 17, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
Okay, so my guess is Pakicetus probably had them, but what about Maiacetus?

Mom whale? Maybe.

I'm thinking like those seen in the manatee.
Perhaps, although they would have had quite different lifestyles.

Well, at that point, they woudl become vistigial.

Yutyrannus

#32
August 17, 2014, 05:49:46 AM
At what point?

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Balaur

#33
August 17, 2014, 05:51:35 AM
If Maiacetus had whiskers, and the whiskers were like a manatee's, they would serve no further purpose.

Yutyrannus

#34
August 17, 2014, 05:54:11 AM
True, I'm leaning towards not putting whiskers on Maiacetus, but putting them on Pakicetus, Ambulocetus, and Himalayacetus (if I can find a place to add it into the series).

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Ultimatedinoking

#35
August 17, 2014, 05:59:46 AM
Himalayacetus?
I may not like feathered dinosaurs and stumpy legged Spinosaurs, but I will keep those opinions to myself, I will not start a debate over it, I promise. 😇
-UDK

Yutyrannus

#36
August 17, 2014, 06:01:48 AM

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Ultimatedinoking

#37
August 17, 2014, 06:04:22 AM
Huh, a new protowhale.
I may not like feathered dinosaurs and stumpy legged Spinosaurs, but I will keep those opinions to myself, I will not start a debate over it, I promise. 😇
-UDK

Yutyrannus

#38
August 17, 2014, 06:11:16 AM
Not new, it was named in 1998.

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Yutyrannus

#39
August 17, 2014, 06:21:56 AM
Also, what is the first prehistoric whale thought to have had a melon?

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

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