(Spoilers) Jurassic Park call-backs in Jurassic World

[stargatedalek]

I would definitely call myself a fangirl of the series, and I would advise anyone to take my opinion with salt when I say Jurassic World is a contender for my second favorite movie, after the original Jurassic Park and contending with the A Certain Magical Index movie and Madoka Magica Rebellion.

Despite that I wasn't actually expecting much from JW, I was expecting it to be chock full of references to the original film, I expected it to poke fun of poor ol Spinosaurus (a little disappointed that one came true honestly), I expected the animals to be nothing like the real thing, and I expected the kids to bug me as kids in non-children's movies often do (except Jaws of course ). And while it was definitely in line with what I was expecting, it still managed to exceed my expectations in terms of writing and sets and animation, perhaps it was because I walked in expecting a B monster movie with good lore that I ended up taking such an impression to the film.

I for one didn't mind all the little references, I wouldn't call them homages, an homage is typically something more subtle (and not typically in universe). I especially liked the references to the books, however few those may have been. The fact I got to see it a day before official North American release may also play a part, a combination of new and old nostalgia if you will.

[Plasticbeast95]

This is very common for long running franchises. Although I dont think JW is that much of a copy of JP, I still prefer it over the "raptor-hybrid mercenaries" plot that was leaked a few years back.

Yes, I know Star Wars does it too, for example, "Visual Echoes" I think George Lucas calls it. I don't like it there either, it is so contrived and self indulgent. Maybe I wouldn't mind if it wasn't so on the nose, or quite so pervasive.

Star Wars was the example I was going to use too.

[TomWToyForum]

Jurassic World is a movie that can't stand up on its own. It exists to pander to fans.

I enjoy easter eggs and references, but the important thing about them is that they're subtle - gratuitously lingering on the same waterfall from the original, copying the same shot of the side view mirror, and that entire Visitor Center scene are the exact opposite of that. It wants you to remember how good the original was and hopes that it's enough to cover up the many flaws the movie has.

Here's something I rarely see people talk about: the pointlessness of the Tyrannosaurus. You barely see it until the final scene, with one brief glimpse of it near the beginning. Now, in a well-made movie like the original, not revealing the dinosaurs was a deliberate decision to make the reveal that much more exciting, but there's no buildup for the Tyrannosaurus. All the focus is on Indominus until the Tyrannosaurus is brought in to make fans cheer (of course it had to be the same one as the original too).

Then there's that final shot made to make the audience applause and cheer, as the Tyrannosaurus, the supposed 'hero' of the movie, roars over her kingdom (not the roar, funnily enough), but it's completely undeserved. What did she do? Show up at the end, give a loud entrance, got completely beaten up by big baddie Indominus until Blue showed up, then forced to Indominus closer to the edge of the street until the mosasaur was ultimately the one to take it down. The Tyrannosaurus didn't deserve anything.

If all these dinosaurs were monsters (well they're not really dinosaurs anyway but that's a whole different subject) that had no preexisting fame, people would be confused. Why suddenly throw in this new monster to aid the ones the movie had already established?

So much of that movie is blatant fan service, and as a big fan, I can't help but feel annoyed. Sure, Jurassic Park may be on my top three favorite movies but maybe if you want me to enjoy something don't just force me to relive positive memories of the original, actually do something creative and deliver a good movie. And ultimately they didn't.

[Plasticbeast95]

In my opinion, the film needed more Rexy, she deserved more than a cameo and a Dues Ex Machina -like ending. But I did like the "TAKE THAT!" to the Spino fanboys she did.

[stargatedalek]

I hated that. It was the only part of the movie I genuinely hated. Not only did it feel incredibly contrived, but everyone saw it coming from the moment we knew there would be a Spinosaurus skeleton in the movie. It also felt like a huge slap in the face to everyone who actually liked the third film, or who likes Spinosaurus.

In a fight versus the JP Tyrannosaurus, heck I'd root for a goldfish, just because that Tyrannosaurus is so overused, overhyped, and has spawned so many fanboys who rage constantly about the very existence of Spinosaurus as an animal and about feathers on Tyrannosaurs. I used to like the JP Tyrannosaurus as a design, but every day I grow less and less fond of it purely because that design itself has such a large and frankly enraging fan base. I like the actual Tyrannosaurus, and the actual Spinosaurus, and I get bombarded at least once a week by someone saying one or the other is ugly/stupid/not-actually-as-strong-as-t-wrecks/raped-their-childhood/etc. And those are definitely the nicer things I hear.

The least they could have done was not mention JP///. They should have just let it die peacefully as the commercial flop (comparatively, as it still made plenty of money) that it was, instead of insulting everyone who actually didn't hate it.

[Plasticbeast95]

I hated that. It was the only part of the movie I genuinely hated. Not only did it feel incredibly contrived, but everyone saw it coming from the moment we knew there would be a Spinosaurus skeleton in the movie. It also felt like a huge slap in the face to everyone who actually liked the third film, or who likes Spinosaurus.

I get where your coming from, but as someone who is sick and tired of Spino fanboys blabbering on about how Spinosaurus is the "Ultimate Super Predator", and how "T. rex can suck it". 14 years of this, four. teen. years. Its was just nice to see a film take a jab at this. But I could see why some people didn't like it. 

[Rain]

It goes both ways, the people stargate described definitely exist but then again so do those who like to believe Spinosaurus was a hulking time travelling super predator that ate not only T-rexes but also Giganotos and Charcarodontosauruses for breakfast.
JP is one heck of a drug it seems, haha

[TomWToyForum]

I like the actual Tyrannosaurus, and the actual Spinosaurus, and I get bombarded at least once a week by someone saying one or the other is ugly/stupid/not-actually-as-strong-as-t-wrecks/raped-their-childhood/etc. And those are definitely the nicer things I hear.

I get where your coming from, but as someone who is sick and tired of Spino fanboys blabbering on about how Spinosaurus is the "Ultimate Super Predator", and how "T. rex can suck it". 14 years of this, four. teen. years. Its was just nice to see a film take a jab at this. But I could see why some people didn't like it.

Where exactly are you guys hanging out? The YouTube comments section? That sounds awful.

[Plasticbeast95]

I like the actual Tyrannosaurus, and the actual Spinosaurus, and I get bombarded at least once a week by someone saying one or the other is ugly/stupid/not-actually-as-strong-as-t-wrecks/raped-their-childhood/etc. And those are definitely the nicer things I hear.

I get where your coming from, but as someone who is sick and tired of Spino fanboys blabbering on about how Spinosaurus is the "Ultimate Super Predator", and how "T. rex can suck it". 14 years of this, four. teen. years. Its was just nice to see a film take a jab at this. But I could see why some people didn't like it.

Where exactly are you guys hanging out? The YouTube comments section? That sounds awful.

No, believe it or not, this comes from official JP forums. And Carnivoraforum, the Rex vs. Spino "war" is legendary there.

[tyrantqueen]

I blame Jurassic Park III for contributing to this mentality that a lot of people have, that all giant theropods exist only to be pitted against each other. I wish people would stop comparing, and just appreciate each animal for what it was. Most of the large theropods didn't exist at the same time and location, so they could never have fought each other.

[Plasticbeast95]

I blame Jurassic Park III for contributing to this mentality that a lot of people have, that all giant theropods exist only to be pitted against each other. I wish people would stop comparing, and just appreciate each animal for what it was. Most of the large theropods didn't exist at the same time and location, so they could never have fought each other.

Thank you! Someone who sees the stupidity of these Theropod on Theropod fights!

[alexeratops]

I like the actual Tyrannosaurus, and the actual Spinosaurus, and I get bombarded at least once a week by someone saying one or the other is ugly/stupid/not-actually-as-strong-as-t-wrecks/raped-their-childhood/etc. And those are definitely the nicer things I hear.

I get where your coming from, but as someone who is sick and tired of Spino fanboys blabbering on about how Spinosaurus is the "Ultimate Super Predator", and how "T. rex can suck it". 14 years of this, four. teen. years. Its was just nice to see a film take a jab at this. But I could see why some people didn't like it.

Where exactly are you guys hanging out? The YouTube comments section? That sounds awful.

No, believe it or not, this comes from official JP forums. And Carnivoraforum, the Rex vs. Spino "war" is legendary there.

Check out the comment section of this video (made by me when I was 8 or 9) about giganotosaurus, it's basically the same. I tried to argue. They just say *poop* like "gigo waz biger and stroger durr"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4HoCOEJw_4

[Plasticbeast95]

I like the actual Tyrannosaurus, and the actual Spinosaurus, and I get bombarded at least once a week by someone saying one or the other is ugly/stupid/not-actually-as-strong-as-t-wrecks/raped-their-childhood/etc. And those are definitely the nicer things I hear.

I get where your coming from, but as someone who is sick and tired of Spino fanboys blabbering on about how Spinosaurus is the "Ultimate Super Predator", and how "T. rex can suck it". 14 years of this, four. teen. years. Its was just nice to see a film take a jab at this. But I could see why some people didn't like it.

Where exactly are you guys hanging out? The YouTube comments section? That sounds awful.

No, believe it or not, this comes from official JP forums. And Carnivoraforum, the Rex vs. Spino "war" is legendary there.

Check out the comment section of this video (made by me when I was 8 or 9) about giganotosaurus, it's basically the same. I tried to argue. They just say *poop* like "gigo waz biger and stroger durr"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4HoCOEJw_4

Wow, but then again the YT comment section is just a festering cess pool.

[stargatedalek]

I blame Jurassic Park III for contributing to this mentality that a lot of people have, that all giant theropods exist only to be pitted against each other. I wish people would stop comparing, and just appreciate each animal for what it was. Most of the large theropods didn't exist at the same time and location, so they could never have fought each other.

Thank you! Someone who sees the stupidity of these Theropod on Theropod fights!

*gives you each a cake*
Similar sized predators don't fight very often in nature today either, with a few notable exceptions (namely marine environments).

the YT comment section is just a festering cess pool.

Understatement of the century.

[alexeratops]

I blame Jurassic Park III for contributing to this mentality that a lot of people have, that all giant theropods exist only to be pitted against each other. I wish people would stop comparing, and just appreciate each animal for what it was. Most of the large theropods didn't exist at the same time and location, so they could never have fought each other.

Thank you! Someone who sees the stupidity of these Theropod on Theropod fights!

*gives you each a cake*
Similar sized predators don't fight very often in nature today either, with a few notable exceptions (namely marine environments).

the YT comment section is just a festering cess pool.

Understatement of the century.

ha!

[DinoToyForum]

Back on topic please  There is a separate thread for general JW discussion, while this thread is for call-backs only. thanks!

[Rain]

Not too sure if this would make the list as it isn't really a call back, but there's a restaurant on the main street called "Winton's steakhouse" which is an obvious nod towards Stan Winston

[Plasticbeast95]

Back on topic please  There is a separate thread for general JW discussion, while this thread is for call-backs only. thanks!

Sorry.

[MLMjp]

I´m not completely sure, but when the ACU soldiers are preparing themselves to capture the I. rex somebody mentions that their rifles are loaded with the same sedant that Roland Tembo used to capture the male t.rex in TLW, mentioned later to Ian and Sarah by a worker after the t.rex escapes.
Carnfentanil, wasn´t it?

[Plasticbeast95]

I´m not completely sure, but when the ACU soldiers are preparing themselves to capture the I. rex somebody mentions that their rifles are loaded with the same sedant that Roland Tembo used to capture the male t.rex in TLW, mentioned later to Ian and Sarah by a worker after the t.rex escapes.
Carnfentanil, wasn´t it?

According to the JPwiki, it was the "enhanced venom of the South Sea Cone Shell."