David Silvas New Kickstarter: Articulated Dinosaur TOYS

[Killekor]

Non Exclusive Velociraptor osmolkae veriant (*not official- for concept only*(David silva on FB))

*not official- for concept only*
If there were to be a non-exclusive variant of the Velociraptor osmolskae figure, what would it look like?
Here's an idea I put together recently in Photoshop just see if it would work and I think I dig it. In order to be a true variant and not a 'repaint', it would need to utilize the same color masks as the original blue version. Basically I would be trading the blue for red and changing the eye color. Thoughts? Is this something you'd be interested in? Comment and let me know!

I Will like (And get) it!

Killekor

[Derek.McManus]

The red scheme is very striking and impressive!

[Dobber]

I don't understand how that wouldn't be considered a repaint? It is the very definition of a repaint. A variant would have new/different features like different wings or tail, a head-crest, a new longer tibia ect. While a repaint is just repainting an existing figure which is what he said this would be. That being said, it looks cool. In fact I think I prefer it to the Blue one.

Chris

[DinoLord]

Reminds me of a male cardinal.

[Killekor]

I don't understand how that wouldn't be considered a repaint? It is the very definition of a repaint. A variant would have new/different features like different wings or tail, a head-crest, a new longer tibia ect. While a repaint is just repainting an existing figure which is what he said this would be. That being said, it looks cool. In fact I think I prefer it to the Blue one.

Chris

Probably david will change the sculpt, if he release it, dobn't forget that he had photoshopped only the colors.

Anyway, i prefear this new color scheme too!

killekor

Killekor

[Silvanusaurus]

Red definitely looks better than the blue one, I'm not sure why exactly, but I really dislike the blue colour schemes on the respective raptors.

[Sim]

David has done a lot of really great work for this raptor series, which I appreciate.  It's what's made me very interested in Beasts of the Mesozoic.  However, I think in this BotM raptor series, too much attention has been given to making main raptor figures have differences through invented things such as parts that only differ in how they are feathered, making raptors who's appearance has to be invented due to being only known from small fragments (e.g. Pyroraptor, Acheroraptor), and different colour schemes (the figures that are recoloured versions of other figures).  And I feel not enough attention has been given to making the main raptors accurate.  For example, some of the shared parts seem unnecessary, like the scaly hands and feathered toes, and the Velociraptor secondaries and Atrociraptor primaries which frankly I think are inferior to all the other primaries and secondaries.  If there's going to be parts like these which only differ from other parts of their kind in (unlikely) forms of feathering, it feels like accuracy isn't that important when parts that are needed to make figures accurate - longer tibiae and secondaries - don't get made.  These parts, particularly the longer tibiae, would also create differences between the main raptors that are actually real differences, rather than invented differences.  It's disappointing, especially since scientific accuracy is billed as one of the main selling points of this line.

As for this red Velociraptor osmolskae, honestly, I don't like it at all.  I already disliked the way colours are arranged on the blue V. osmolskae, particularly on its face, and this red one has the same colour arrangement just with some colours swapped with others.  And while the blue colour scheme looks interesting to me on the figure just because it's so unusual, this red colour scheme just looks garish.  In contrast, I think the Velociraptor mongoliensis figure has one of the best colour schemes in this raptor series.

[Roselaar]

Well, I suggested David try his luck opening channels with online dinosaur sites, and he was very open to it. Hopefully it'll happen. I can't imagine the likes of Urzeitshop and ED are not interested...

[Faelrin]

I think it's okay, but I don't think I need it since the original figure has enough red for me, aside from the fact I already added the blue one to my survey back then. If I were to get a fifth raptor anytime soon it would be the Acheroraptor, if only because I think the blue footed boobie color scheme translated well for a dromaeosaur, and it might be one of the few others that won't look too out of place next to the ones I already ordered, color wise. Though really, aside from the nestlings pack, I think I have enough for now.

[Nanuqsaurus]

Well, I suggested David try his luck opening channels with online dinosaur sites, and he was very open to it. Hopefully it'll happen. I can't imagine the likes of Urzeitshop and ED are not interested...

That's good to hear! Thanks for letting us know.

[Dinoguy2]

David has done a lot of really great work for this raptor series, which I appreciate.  It's what's made me very interested in Beasts of the Mesozoic.  However, I think in this BotM raptor series, too much attention has been given to making main raptor figures have differences through invented things such as parts that only differ in how they are feathered, making raptors who's appearance has to be invented due to being only known from small fragments (e.g. Pyroraptor, Acheroraptor), and different colour schemes (the figures that are recoloured versions of other figures).  And I feel not enough attention has been given to making the main raptors accurate.  For example, some of the shared parts seem unnecessary, like the scaly hands and feathered toes, and the Velociraptor secondaries and Atrociraptor primaries which frankly I think are inferior to all the other primaries and secondaries.  If there's going to be parts like these which only differ from other parts of their kind in (unlikely) forms of feathering, it feels like accuracy isn't that important when parts that are needed to make figures accurate - longer tibiae and secondaries - don't get made.  These parts, particularly the longer tibiae, would also create differences between the main raptors that are actually real differences, rather than invented differences.  It's disappointing, especially since scientific accuracy is billed as one of the main selling points of this line.

As for this red Velociraptor osmolskae, honestly, I don't like it at all.  I already disliked the way colours are arranged on the blue V. osmolskae, particularly on its face, and this red one has the same colour arrangement just with some colours swapped with others.  And while the blue colour scheme looks interesting to me on the figure just because it's so unusual, this red colour scheme just looks garish.  In contrast, I think the Velociraptor mongoliensis figure has one of the best colour schemes in this raptor series.

I agree and I have a hunch based on everything that's been said and done that simply not enough actual research was done up front, or the wrong experts consulted. The main differences in outward appearance between different raptors is mostly limb proportions and relative skull size, but that's not exactly a fact you can look up or that would even be clear from reading papers. I feel like David entered this project thinking the main differences were in skull shape, and he could differentiate species further with differences in feathering to make buying multiples feel less like an endless string of repaints. He seems to have done a lot of learning on the job during the production process, mainly via Sim's comments!

[Fembrogon]

Dan's Dinosaurs now carries Beasts of the Mezozoic.

[Minmiminime]

An interview with David, in which he hints at things to come:

http://www.figures.com/2017/02/09/talking-dinos-with-david-silva-beasts-of-the-mesozoic-series-qa/

The ceratopsians could be anything from $45 - $100. A price tag which sends shivers down my spine, as it'll certainly limit what I can contribute to the campaign (but will, nonetheless). Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, I haven't seen it if it has!

[Flaffy]

I was hoping the new ceratopsian line is going to be 1/20 for the largest species, but it seems that David is set on a 1/18 line.
At this price I can only get one or two figures max, oh well...

Also, David confirmed that the Red Velociraptor is going to be a direct repaint of the Blue Velociraptor, so much for being a variant.

[Minmiminime]

I was hoping the new ceratopsian line is going to be 1/20 for the largest species, but it seems that David is set on a 1/18 line.
At this price I can only get one or two figures max, oh well...

Also, David confirmed that the Red Velociraptor is going to be a direct repaint of the Blue Velociraptor, so much for being a variant.

Me too! I think I'll have to limit it to one centrosaurine, and one chasmosaurine. It's a shame the red variant Velociraptor wasn't the exclusive piece in the first place, I much prefer it to the blue one I chose 3 'raptors during the campaign, the Tsaagan, the exclusive blue Velociraptor and the fan's choice road runner Saurornitholestes. Currently building myself up to a final splurge on the original Velociraptor, the amber nestlings and the desert accessory pack

[Derek.McManus]

Very interesting interview I'm looking forward to learning more about the forthcoming line and would be very tempted to treat myself to one of my favourite ceratopsians!

[Roselaar]

Wonderful interview, thanks for sharing!

I'm not fond of the increased price tag for the Ceratopsians, for collectors outside the US that have to deal with higher shipping costs and import taxes these could end up being very expensive. I like the notion of a range of smaller scladed figures though. The Raptor/Protoceratopsian 2-packs sound just too awesome...

[Faelrin]

There's some new (wip?) concept art on the Creative Beast Studio FB Page for the ceratopsians line. He mentioned quills will be added later. Not too sure on how I feel about quills being added. I suppose it depends on how they turn out. If they're done like CollectA's way of adding quills, (or like Psittacosaurus' quills since that's close enough), I'd probably be okay with that, but not with those porcupine looking ones sticking out all over the whole body, when there's no evidence to suggest quills like that either. Then again, something like that probably wouldn't be practical for an action figure anyways.

https://www.facebook.com/BeastSculptKit/photos/a.125819777433236.23596.113487525333128/1652890128059519/?type=3&theater

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I'd be fine if he left them off all together.

[suspsy]

Removable quills would be nice, although it would mean the figures would have tiny holes in their rumps.

I suppose if CB does a tyrannosaur series after this one, they'll be even more expensive.