JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM

[Brontozaurus]

The toe tappin' I sense another 'Jurassic Park call backs' thread will be justified when this comes out. Even better, how about a call back predictions thread.

I predict call backs to the following:

-Raptor lit up by DNA sequence
-CLEVER GIRL
-Raptors in the tall grass from TLW
-Really I'm pretty sure any significant raptor moment is going to get a call back, even the 'they set a trap!' bit from 3.
-City rampage from TLW, down to one of the screenwriters cameoing as a guy who gets eaten.

[Faelrin]

So not only is the Mosasaurus missing according to the JW website, it also seems to have escaped its enclosure. So at least this means it wasn't stuck there to starve to death after all. Although at the same time, wasn't that enclosure not connected to the ocean? It doesn't even appear to be on the map on that site, but I'm not sure if the movie is the same. I haven't watched it in a while.

[Appalachiosaurus]

I'm surprised Universal really hasn't bothered to update it's Park's with a Jurassic World theme as of yet given the popularity.   It would seem they don't feel the need to which would be explained how?   They could looking to the future where even if rebooted the architecture would roughly remain the same, the animatronic dinos on the rides are easily redone.  Just following a line a thought. 

Well, Jurassic World only really exists and is so popular because of nostalgia for the original. Changing all the branding wouldn't be smart if people don't actually care about the new image.

I have missed having Biosyn and Dodgson in the film universe, anything that brings them back as a threat would be cool in my book.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Dodgson can't come back because his actor is in prison right now, and Ingen/Lockwood already fills the corporate bad guy role.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I'm surprised Universal really hasn't bothered to update it's Park's with a Jurassic World theme as of yet given the popularity.   It would seem they don't feel the need to which would be explained how?   They could looking to the future where even if rebooted the architecture would roughly remain the same, the animatronic dinos on the rides are easily redone.  Just following a line a thought. 

Well, Jurassic World only really exists and is so popular because of nostalgia for the original. Changing all the branding wouldn't be smart if people don't actually care about the new image.

I have missed having Biosyn and Dodgson in the film universe, anything that brings them back as a threat would be cool in my book.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Dodgson can't come back because his actor is in prison right now, and Ingen/Lockwood already fills the corporate bad guy role.

The island at Uni really does need a new ride or something ..at..all.  I mean it's area was eaten up a bit by Potter and Kong already.  At least adding new dinosaurs to the ride and updating the ones in it like they did with Singapore would be better.

Yeah I've heard, but that wouldn't stop a recast.  He would be a bit older now too.    The only thing I've heard about Lockwood so far is he was "Hammond's partner"  I can't recall that from any source before so it's new.  I actually hope he is the dark side version of Hammond from the novel.  Not just a stand in to replace Hammond. 

[Faelrin]

So it turns out that the mystery ceratopsian seen in the trailers is indeed intended to be Sinoceratops. This image was updated and finally has that name there. At least that can finally be put to rest.

http://www.dinosaurprotectiongroup.com/images/posters/cruelty.jpg

[MLMjp]

Good.
At least know the creature resembles what is supposed to be. Although personally I find it odd that they decided to go with it instead of choosing one of it´s more popular cousins like Pachyrhinosaurus or Styracosaurus.

[Jose S.M.]

There's a Pachyrhinosaurus too. But I don't know if it's going to be in the movie, it does feature in the toy line, unlike Sinoceratops which appears to be missing from there.  What's even weirder is that they have Styracosaurus listed as extinct when it's a much more well known species than Sinoceratops and even Pachyrhinosaurus.

[Faelrin]

I went to go edit one of my old posts on reddit to correct it with this info and saw another poster in the thread mention it might have been added to get more Chinese folk interested in the new film?

I also recall reading rumors about Pachyrhinosaurus originally be intended for the film (which might explain the toy Mattel made), so that might be why. It will be interesting to see if any of these three (Pachyrhinosaurus, Styracosaurus, and Sinoceratops) show up in Jurassic World Evolution game. They recently revealed Chasmosaurus, so I'm hoping, but time will tell.

A shame Styracosaurus is in red though. I guess there goes its chance of being in the next film. Maybe since Pachyrhinosaurus isn't in red, hopefully it has a chance in the next film however unlikely.

[John]

The names in red on that list mean precisely nothing to me in context of the movie...the idea is that more dinosaurs are being cloned than previously suspected which include more hybrids like that "Indoraptor" thing in an obvious continuation of the military experiments seen in the last movie.They may have cloned more of the regular dinosaurs too,including the ones in red on that list.So who knows,we could still end up seeing Styracosaurus in there somewhere,even if just for a moment.Time will tell.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I wonder if those names in red are just more rare?  Mamenchisaurus and many of the others exist on Sorna.  There was another faux document tie in recently that said there were 4 of them or something? 

[Jose S.M.]

I wonder if those names in red are just more rare?  Mamenchisaurus and many of the others exist on Sorna.  There was another faux document tie in recently that said there were 4 of them or something?

I read a list of species of Sorna where they were population numbers corresponding to 1994 I think, but the current status said unknown for all of the Sorna species.

[Appalachiosaurus]

I wonder if those names in red are just more rare?  Mamenchisaurus and many of the others exist on Sorna.  There was another faux document tie in recently that said there were 4 of them or something?

InGen originally cloned 4 Mamenchisaurus, but there is no word on how many are still alive, if any are at all.

[CityRaptor]

Found this on the DPG site:

The Illegal Species

Information surrounding the illegally bred species surfaced online during the 2015 inquiry via an anonymous hacker known as: JUR@55!_H@K3R, who published sensitive InGen documents. Key revelations included:

■ The new species were grown in secret on Isla Sorna (Site B) and experimented on over a period of nine months, starting just 100 days after the company was bought by Masrani Global.

■ Incubation was achieved covertly and quickly to evade attention; only a select few InGen members were involved, and their names have been removed from records. It is unclear whether Masrani Global's CEO, the late Simon Masrani, was aware of the violation of law.

■ The research and growth of these animals were filed under "Early R&D for Jurassic Park's second incarnation" and simultaneously "Amalgam Testing."

■ The new species included: Ankylosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Corythosaurus, and Spinosaurus. All were abandoned on Site B, until the surviving animals were reportedly moved to Nublar to be housed as future attractions at Jurassic World.

■ A number of these new animals had originally been reported by the survivors of the plane crash on Isla Sorna during the summer of 2001, but the information was quickly buried by "bribed officials."

I wonder if that means that there are no Dinosaurs on Sorna left.

[Reptilia]

So Spinosaurus and Ceratosaurus were originally brought to Nublar to become park attractions, and they went extinct after 2015?

[Appalachiosaurus]

So Spinosaurus and Ceratosaurus were originally brought to Nublar to become park attractions, and they went extinct after 2015?

No, they went extinct before 2004, with only the few surviving Ankylosaurs being shipped to Nublar when Masrani Global went back to Site B to round up the park stock.

[Faelrin]

The JW site says that the Edmontosaurus is extinct, and the DPG site says the Metriacanthosaurus is extinct, and both of those names are in red on the list. It's probably safe to say that the names in red are considered extinct, if not critically 'endangered'. Honestly it is pretty disappointing to think of the dinosaurs from the TLW and JPIII (such as the Tyrannosaurus family, and the Spinosaurus, etc), were just written/killed off in some manner, if Nublar really is where the last of the JP/JW dinosaurs are. Although I suppose even if most of the stock was taken from Sorna to fill Nublar, and not everything, then it probably still did create enough environmental damage to possibly kill off any remaining dinosaurs, if they weren't just straight up killed off. Or they took everything and for whatever reason some died (which I'm doubting in the case of the TLW Tyrannosaurus family). Still sucks either way though.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Wasn't it canon that Site B be left alone and untouched?  It was a working ecosystem afterall if I recall correctly.

[suspsy]

I always assumed that the Spinosaurus was dead. Why else would its skeleton be mounted on the promenade?

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

■ A number of these new animals had originally been reported by the survivors of the plane crash on Isla Sorna during the summer of 2001, but the information was quickly buried by "bribed officials."

I think what they're saying here is that there are still dinosaurs on Sorna but InGen is trying to keep them secret as these species were supposed to have been removed by then.

[Appalachiosaurus]

Wasn't it canon that Site B be left alone and untouched?  It was a working ecosystem afterall if I recall correctly.

It was originally, but Masrani bribed the US government to allow them to mess it up. This video goes over all the new information pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpNoAGLNNvA

I always assumed that the Spinosaurus was dead. Why else would its skeleton be mounted on the promenade?

I'm pretty sure that's just a model of a generic Spinosaurus, not an actual skeleton.