Is this a real painted Invicta Troodon?

[Roselaar]

Anybody know what to make of this? I though a painted Invicta Troodon was never produced. Plus, the neck looks suspiciously odd and the paint job style differs from the other painted Invictasaurs. Custom figure, or could it be for real?

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Anybody know what to make of this? I though a painted Invicta Troodon was never produced. Plus, the neck looks suspiciously odd and the paint job style differs from the other painted Invictasaurs. Custom figure, or could it be for real?

There is a book out on building model dinosaurs, been out for awhile and inside it the author takes a troodon from invicta and paints it almost identically to that piece. I wonder if his book might have inspired a copy cat? I seem to think the book was called....Building and Painting Model Dinosaurs. Author was named Ray Rimell. In his picture his piece resembles this quite closely.
It looks like a custom painted invicta to me

[Roselaar]

I would say custom too, but it's out there on a popular auction site with its seller claiming it's the real thing (though he may be so immoral as to lie to his would-be customers...).

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Mixed feelings for me. I am not knowledgeable enough to answer for certain. For my money I would say custom, just because the painted invictas seem a bit..more crisp in the colors and lines. Can you ask the seller for a closeup of the inscription that is generally on most museum dinosaurs? I would think invictas carry that , helping to establish its at least a legitimate sculpt

[Seijun]

This is what the seller told me:
"I live in Leicester where the Invicta factory is, and I find a lot of these dinosaurs on the second hand market, so have no real idea of his history. From the areas of paint rubbing, he looks the same colour as a normal one underneath"

So I am almost certain that this is a custom paint job. Factory painted invictas were made of an opaque rubbery plastic, but this one is a normal pink color underneath, and a normal hard plastic. Also, it looks very "hand-painted", like a paintbrush was most likely used. Factory-painted invictas were airbrushed with a stencil. There is the (extremely) remote possibility that this one was a test-paint of some sort, made by invicta before they started mass producing their painted line, but even if that is the case there would never be any way to know for certain in this particular case.

[Roselaar]

Thanks for the feedback, folks. I'll go with custom. If it somehow turns out to be for real, too bad for me.

[Dip]

Looks custom to me. I live in Leicester too and I have never come across anything like this. That's not to say its not an original but I have my doubts. This will go for a mad price I think. Not something I would risk personally.

[DinoToyForum]

Here it is, few hours left: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130710716938?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[UK]

I will give an update when it arrives. I suspect it is a custom but it looks good.

[Himmapaan]

When we say 'opaque', do we actually mean 'transparent'? I seem to recall the painted ones being so, unless I'm mistaken.

Of course, if we actually do mean opaque, then I'm not sure the emphasis is necessary, since even the monochrome ones are opaque too; i.e. not see-through. 

[SBell]

When we say 'opaque', do we actually mean 'transparent'? I seem to recall the painted ones being so, unless I'm mistaken.

Of course, if we actually do mean opaque, then I'm not sure the emphasis is necessary, since even the monochrome ones are opaque too; i.e. not see-through. 

I think 'translucent' is the word people are searching for here--not quite see through, but somewhat clear.

And given the legal hassles with the original monochrome, I highly doubt they bothered with a factory painted one.

[brach81]

And given the legal hassles with the original monochrome, I highly doubt they bothered with a factory painted one.

What were the legal hassles about? Sorry but not been on this forum for long.

[SBell]

And given the legal hassles with the original monochrome, I highly doubt they bothered with a factory painted one.

What were the legal hassles about? Sorry but not been on this forum for long.

It was copyright stuff--another company was apparently involved (there are two listed on the base) and somehow that caused problems, which is why the figure was not offered for very long.

[UK]

It is a custom painted piece.... paint rub exposes the usual molded colour of the figure and the plastic is more rigid than those used in the true painted versions.

Nice item though.

[DinoToyForum]

And given the legal hassles with the original monochrome, I highly doubt they bothered with a factory painted one.

What were the legal hassles about? Sorry but not been on this forum for long.

It was copyright stuff--another company was apparently involved (there are two listed on the base) and somehow that caused problems, which is why the figure was not offered for very long.

I didn't know about this either - if it was discussed previously on the forum I somehow missed it. Libraraptor didn't mention it in his review either. But, you are quite correct, I just checked the base of my Invicta Stenonychosaurus and the other company is listed as 'Archosaur Reproductions Ltd'. It seems a bit odd that Invicta couldn't provide both figure and base. so, was Invicta responsible for the animal or the base, or did the companies work in conjunction on both base and animal? Is there a thread on the V1 forum explaining this, I'm intrigued...

[indy1936]

I believe one of the recent issues of Prehistoric Times addresses all of these questions about the Invicta Troodon.

[DinoToyForum]

I believe one of the recent issues of Prehistoric Times addresses all of these questions about the Invicta Troodon.

That's an issue I should track down Do you know which one, or who authored the article?

[Roselaar]

It is a custom painted piece.... paint rub exposes the usual molded colour of the figure and the plastic is more rigid than those used in the true painted versions.

Nice item though.

Thanks for letting me know. Another mystery solved. 

[indy1936]

I believe one of the recent issues of Prehistoric Times addresses all of these questions about the Invicta Troodon.

That's an issue I should track down Do you know which one, or who authored the article?

I believe it's the current issue #101.  Part 3 of a series on Invicta/British Museum dinosaurs.

[Bokisaurus]

I believe one of the recent issues of Prehistoric Times addresses all of these questions about the Invicta Troodon.

That's an issue I should track down Do you know which one, or who authored the article?

The troodon article is in the latest issue, which I believe is the last of the 4 part series done on Invicta. Oh, yes, the series was written by CollectA's very own Anthony Beeson! Great informative article about the entire Invicta line, a must read for fans of it