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Penguins Probably Lived Alongside Dinosaurs

Started by suspsy, February 24, 2017, 11:29:55 AM

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Derek.McManus

Another very interesting article, I must admit it would never have occurred to me to consider dinosaurs and penguins as contemporaries! Once again another option for an interesting figure if more details come to light!

BlueKrono

The Kaiyodo Copepteryx isn't bad. But I do wish there were more.
We are accustomed to look upon the shackled form of a conquered monster, but there - there you could look at a thing monstrous and free." - King Kong, 2005

stargatedalek

Quote from: BlueKrono on February 24, 2017, 12:41:05 PM
The Kaiyodo Copepteryx isn't bad. But I do wish there were more.
Copepteryx is also a gannet and not a penguin ;)

Does that make the Yowies the only extinct penguin figure?

BlueKrono

I actually did not know that. I suppose next you're gonna tell me that Hesperornis like the Primeval figure wasn't a penguin either! But in all seriousness I think you're right about the Yowies.
We are accustomed to look upon the shackled form of a conquered monster, but there - there you could look at a thing monstrous and free." - King Kong, 2005

Silvanusaurus

Massive plot twist... Penguins are Dinosaurs.  8)

The Atroxious

Quote from: Silvanusaurus on February 24, 2017, 02:46:59 PM
Massive plot twist... Penguins are Dinosaurs.  8)

Basically what I thought when I saw the title of the thread. It's impossible for penguins to not be contemporaries of dinosaurs seeing as how they are dinosaurs. You can't not be a contemporary of yourself.

Halichoeres

Quote from: stargatedalek on February 24, 2017, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: BlueKrono on February 24, 2017, 12:41:05 PM
The Kaiyodo Copepteryx isn't bad. But I do wish there were more.
Copepteryx is also a gannet and not a penguin ;)

Does that make the Yowies the only extinct penguin figure?

I imagine sometime this century we'll lose one or more extant penguin species, and then we'll magically have MANY extinct penguin figures.
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BlueKrono

We are accustomed to look upon the shackled form of a conquered monster, but there - there you could look at a thing monstrous and free." - King Kong, 2005

stargatedalek

Quote from: Halichoeres on February 24, 2017, 05:21:25 PM
I imagine sometime this century we'll lose one or more extant penguin species, and then we'll magically have MANY extinct penguin figures.
Unfortunately I don't think there's ever been any figures made of the rarer penguin species (IE yellow eyed).


Brontozaurus

Quote from: BlueKrono on February 24, 2017, 01:48:49 PM
I actually did not know that. I suppose next you're gonna tell me that Hesperornis like the Primeval figure wasn't a penguin either! But in all seriousness I think you're right about the Yowies.

Surprise! They're weird basal birds not particularly near penguins.
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Halichoeres

Quote from: Brontozaurus on February 25, 2017, 09:28:32 AM
Quote from: BlueKrono on February 24, 2017, 01:48:49 PM
I actually did not know that. I suppose next you're gonna tell me that Hesperornis like the Primeval figure wasn't a penguin either! But in all seriousness I think you're right about the Yowies.

Surprise! They're weird basal birds not particularly near penguins.

My impression was he meant that facetiously.
In the kingdom of the blind, better take public transit. Well, in the kingdom of the sighted, too, really--almost everyone is a terrible driver.

My attempt to find the best toy of every species

My trade/sale/wishlist thread

Sometimes I draw pictures

BlueKrono

Humor is hard to read on the internet isn't it? But my knowledge of prehistoric birds is actually rather lacking. Yet another reason I appreciate this forum!
We are accustomed to look upon the shackled form of a conquered monster, but there - there you could look at a thing monstrous and free." - King Kong, 2005


GasmaskMax

I had no idea penguins were that old. So wouldn't that put them on the more primitive end of the bird spectrum, or is my knowledge of extinct birds just as lacking as I already know it is?

Halichoeres

Quote from: GasmaskMax on February 25, 2017, 08:56:52 PM
I had no idea penguins were that old. So wouldn't that put them on the more primitive end of the bird spectrum, or is my knowledge of extinct birds just as lacking as I already know it is?

Evolutionary biologists try to avoid using the word primitive to refer to anything currently alive, because an extant organism has, by definition, been evolving just as long as everything else now alive and carries a mix of both primitive and derived features. Traditionally penguins have been thought to be one of the first groups to diverge from other birds, but molecular phylogenies now find them deeply nested within a clade of other aquatic birds. Their closest relatives are probably the group containing albatrosses and petrels.
In the kingdom of the blind, better take public transit. Well, in the kingdom of the sighted, too, really--almost everyone is a terrible driver.

My attempt to find the best toy of every species

My trade/sale/wishlist thread

Sometimes I draw pictures

GasmaskMax

Quote from: Halichoeres on February 25, 2017, 09:43:30 PM
Quote from: GasmaskMax on February 25, 2017, 08:56:52 PM
I had no idea penguins were that old. So wouldn't that put them on the more primitive end of the bird spectrum, or is my knowledge of extinct birds just as lacking as I already know it is?

Evolutionary biologists try to avoid using the word primitive to refer to anything currently alive, because an extant organism has, by definition, been evolving just as long as everything else now alive and carries a mix of both primitive and derived features. Traditionally penguins have been thought to be one of the first groups to diverge from other birds, but molecular phylogenies now find them deeply nested within a clade of other aquatic birds. Their closest relatives are probably the group containing albatrosses and petrels.
Good to know.

Sinornis

If they made extinct penguin figures that looked like the attached photo, I'm a customer! While they are at it, and I think I mentioned this before, they should consider some Green River and Messel birds. Presbyornis would be a great collector figure.

A little off topic, I'd like to see a another attempt at a Hesperornis figure and one of Ichthyornis.

http://avianmusing.blogspot.com/

1. Pinguinus impennis 2. Waimanu manneringi 3. Pachydyptes ponderosus 4. Icadyptes salasi 5. Inkayacu paracasensis 6. Anthropornis nordenskjoeldi


BlueKrono

That's a fantastic illustration! And those see some seriously big birds. Now I want to make a model of Icadyptes.
We are accustomed to look upon the shackled form of a conquered monster, but there - there you could look at a thing monstrous and free." - King Kong, 2005

Dilopho

After cracking up laughing for way too long at number 3 (he's such a little dumpling!!! Awwww!!!), I think the colours on these guys are cool. All penguin illustrations are always emperor penguin colours or just blue.

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