Denying the Bird-Dinosaur Relationship

[suspsy]

Darren Naish addresses BANDits. Does their argument really have merit?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/the-birds-are-not-dinosaurs-movement/

The short answer: NO.

[alexeratops]

Laughable.

[Loon]

Was literally just reading up the Creationists' favorite paleo-ornithologist, Alan Feduccia today, oddly enough.  Love these so-called "free-thinkers" and "skeptics."

[Neosodon]

The relationship between birds and other dinosaurs is undeniable. I believe in convergent evolution but proposing that dinosaurs and birds evolved feathers independently is pretty far fetched not to mention all the other anatomical similarities. I've said birds should not be considered dinosaurs before as simply a terminology thing. Saying non avian dinosaurs all the time gets old. I think the term dinosaur should only refer to those before the avian split. While the term Dinosauria or Dinosaurians could be used as the proper scientific term when referring to the group as a whole.