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Walking with Dinosaurs 3D

Started by Balaur, July 19, 2012, 02:31:29 AM

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Patrx

Quote from: Gwangi on July 14, 2013, 10:44:39 PM
Some birds do look shrink wrapped themselves though, I'll use flamingos as an example. The Troodon is one of the better interpretation I've seen at least on film but overall I agree that these dinosaurs that are the closest relatives of birds should really look more like birds than lizards in feather costumes. There are a few artists who do it good but I cannot recall them offhand. John Conway is one, his Deinonychus looks how the animal probably did.



That's one of my favorite pieces of palaeoart, period. It's got to the point where I picture Deinonychus looking this way in my imagination. There's another version of it out there somewhere - maybe an update? A few modifications to the foot anatomy and the face. It was on the Ontograph Studios site before it was taken down. Other artists who've proven to be adept at handling feathers include Emily Willoughby and Matthew Martyniuk.

Something that happens often, and indeed the thing that bugs me most about this Troodon model, is the sparse feathering on the face. Modern birds don't have feathers on their snouts because, well, they don't have snouts; they have beaks. Historically, this has not always been so, of  course. In maniraptorans with bony jaws, there's generally no way of knowing where the feathers terminated, and certainly no reason to suspect they did so just ahead of the eyes like those of a beaked bird. Ergo, as seen in Conway's illustration, a (mostly) feathery snout is a parsimonious condition. To my eyes, it looks much more natural then the semi-lacertian design of the WWD Troodon.


Balaur

Quote from: Patrx on July 15, 2013, 07:00:14 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on July 14, 2013, 10:44:39 PM
Some birds do look shrink wrapped themselves though, I'll use flamingos as an example. The Troodon is one of the better interpretation I've seen at least on film but overall I agree that these dinosaurs that are the closest relatives of birds should really look more like birds than lizards in feather costumes. There are a few artists who do it good but I cannot recall them offhand. John Conway is one, his Deinonychus looks how the animal probably did.



That's one of my favorite pieces of palaeoart, period. It's got to the point where I picture Deinonychus looking this way in my imagination. There's another version of it out there somewhere - maybe an update? A few modifications to the foot anatomy and the face. It was on the Ontograph Studios site before it was taken down. Other artists who've proven to be adept at handling feathers include Emily Willoughby and Matthew Martyniuk.

Something that happens often, and indeed the thing that bugs me most about this Troodon model, is the sparse feathering on the face. Modern birds don't have feathers on their snouts because, well, they don't have snouts; they have beaks. Historically, this has not always been so, of  course. In maniraptorans with bony jaws, there's generally no way of knowing where the feathers terminated, and certainly no reason to suspect they did so just ahead of the eyes like those of a beaked bird. Ergo, as seen in Conway's illustration, a (mostly) feathery snout is a parsimonious condition. To my eyes, it looks much more natural then the semi-lacertian design of the WWD Troodon.

Okay, I have to agree with you guys, but I still like the look of the Troodon and I'm glad that feathered dinosaurs are appearing on screen.

Sepaking of which, I am a huge fan of Matt Martyniuk's and Emily Wolloughby's work. They look very natural and bird like, and I can definentally see these animals looking like that.

Hermes888

Does anyone know what the feathered dinosaur is at the 0:27 mark of the Japanese trailer? It doesn't look like the Troodon, but I may just be wrong.

Balaur

Quote from: Hermes888 on July 16, 2013, 08:42:31 PM
Does anyone know what the feathered dinosaur is at the 0:27 mark of the Japanese trailer? It doesn't look like the Troodon, but I may just be wrong.

It might be Hesperonychus, but I don't know.

Yutyrannus

I got a few images of some of the new scenes from the Japanese trailer.

Troodon/Hesperonychus?

Troodon/Hesperonychus? (0:27)

Gorgosaurus

Gorgosaurus amidst a herd of Pachyrhinosaurus

"The world's still the same. There's just less in it."

Yutyrannus

Quote from: Balaur on July 12, 2013, 07:50:39 PM
No Humans! YES!!!!

I just watched that trailer, and I am SOOOOOO excited for this film. I remember when I was upset that it's not Walking with Dinosaurs style movie, but that is behind me. I just saw in the trailer when the Troodon grabbing the baby Pachyrhinosaurus in slow motion, I thought it was real. (By the tail, as it began to run in slow motion I saw the distinctive sickle claw of Troodon, so it is Troodon) Also, did I see a Hesperonychus in the forest? Awesome if it is! not only is there accurate feathered dinosaurs in theatres for the first time, but they look real!

I am getting more excited now! December is so far away though.....  :( But it'll be worth the wait I think.
It could be a Troodon, but Hesperonychus has those claws too :-\.

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Takama

I watched a Trailer with the voice acting, and i must say I'm fine with it.   I loved Milo and Otis as a Kid, and i still do to this day. Which may be the reason why im fine with this. I dont care if its some hip guy doing th naration.


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Concavenator

Based on the trailer,I have to say I'll like the film.When I first heard about it I thought it was the same as the original,but with 3-D effects.
Now I am happy knowing they won't do that.
In my opinion,the film is beautiful,and with some cool dinosaurs,like Gorgosaurus and Troodon,also,Edmontonia.
I hope the film will make companies wanting to release some of these dinos(I would be interested especially on Troodon).

Jetoar

I think that we will be able to see this film in IMAX theatres in Spain.
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scallenger

I am happy that this isn't some full-on remake. Although, for it to be called "Walking With Dinosaurs", I was hoping there would be scenes that would mimic moments from the series, which very well could still happen. But if this trailer is how the narration will be, and with a story and dinosaurs unlike any in the series, I really don't see this as nothing but "Walking With Dinosaurs: In Name Only". I kind of just wished they called it something else to remove ANY expectations one might have in what to expect, you know? I have a feeling calling it that just sets it up for comparisons, when obviously this time they have set out to do something quite different.
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Everything_Dinosaur

As we understand the situation, there are going to be a number of extension activities run by 20th Century Fox/Reliance Entertainment and BBC Worldwide, these will feature a myriad of prehistoric animals, for example downloadable dinosaur apps, collectors corner with data sheets etc.  The actual movie (premier December 3013) is a story of Pachyrhinosaurs and it is set in the Late Cretaceous.  You are right it is not really anything like the original BBC six part series "Walking with Dinosaurs", no puppets for a start.  A sort of "land before time/bambi/march of the penguins" format from what we have picked up after conversations with the BBC.

Balaur

Quote from: Yutyrannus on July 25, 2013, 06:32:49 AM
Quote from: Balaur on July 12, 2013, 07:50:39 PM
No Humans! YES!!!!

I just watched that trailer, and I am SOOOOOO excited for this film. I remember when I was upset that it's not Walking with Dinosaurs style movie, but that is behind me. I just saw in the trailer when the Troodon grabbing the baby Pachyrhinosaurus in slow motion, I thought it was real. (By the tail, as it began to run in slow motion I saw the distinctive sickle claw of Troodon, so it is Troodon) Also, did I see a Hesperonychus in the forest? Awesome if it is! not only is there accurate feathered dinosaurs in theatres for the first time, but they look real!

I am getting more excited now! December is so far away though.....  :( But it'll be worth the wait I think.
It could be a Troodon, but Hesperonychus has those claws too :-\.

That is true... However, I do believe that it is Troodon and here is why; The size - Hesperonychus was only about 2 feet long. Compared to the size of Pachyrhinosaurus and this feathered dinosaurs, I looks way too big. It is a good size for a Troodon. Also, it is believed that Hesperonychus has larger wings (much larger) than that of Troodon. Finally, it would likely be an arboreal dinosaur, while Troodon is a land animal. So that is why I think it is Troodon.

0:27 of the Japanese Trailer; I at first thought it was Hesperonychus. However, now I'm a bit dubious on what it is. It might be a Albertonykus, which did live in the same place and time as the other animals in the movie. It's wings are smaller than Hesperonychus's, so it might be it, but it could be another deinonychosaur.

scallenger

Quote from: Everything_Dinosaur on July 26, 2013, 06:33:24 AM
As we understand the situation, there are going to be a number of extension activities run by 20th Century Fox/Reliance Entertainment and BBC Worldwide, these will feature a myriad of prehistoric animals, for example downloadable dinosaur apps, collectors corner with data sheets etc.  The actual movie (premier December 3013) is a story of Pachyrhinosaurs and it is set in the Late Cretaceous.  You are right it is not really anything like the original BBC six part series "Walking with Dinosaurs", no puppets for a start.  A sort of "land before time/bambi/march of the penguins" format from what we have picked up after conversations with the BBC.

Well I do hope in the process of all of their promotion and activities that they re-release the original 6-part program like in high definition (BluRay) or some other kind of special edition. I'm also hoping for an expanded soundtrack release of the original series and some of the other by Ben Bartlett, but we shall see if that happens. :)
Jurassic Time is back... and this time, it will stay with you forever.



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HD-man

#173
Quote from: Balaur on July 26, 2013, 06:39:24 AM0:27 of the Japanese Trailer; I at first thought it was Hesperonychus. However, now I'm a bit dubious on what it is. It might be a Albertonykus, which did live in the same place and time as the other animals in the movie. It's wings are smaller than Hesperonychus's, so it might be it, but it could be another deinonychosaur.

Is the Japanese trailer's narration 1st or 3rd person? Many thanks in advance.

P.S. For those who haven't seen said trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FO2ssg9eEo&feature=player_embedded
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scallenger

Well, look what my boyfriend who works at a movie theater was able to snag for me today. ;) A double-sided poster of the brand new Walking With Dinosaurs. I love it!

Jurassic Time is back... and this time, it will stay with you forever.



Jurassic Time... it can now belong in your own museum.

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Jetoar

[Off Nick and Eddie's reactions to the dinosaurs] Oh yeah "Ooh, aah", that's how it always starts. But then there's running and screaming.



{about the T-Rex) When he sees us with his kid isn't he gonna be like "you"!?

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My website's facebook: Paleo-Creatures

Balaur

That is a nice poster! I like it!

DinoToyForum

#178
It reminds me of the poster for Disney's Dinosaur (and a squillion other uninspired movie posters ;) :)) ) Good catch though! :)



Blade-of-the-Moon

It just goes to show yo how much we value eyes and sight in our culture..we're very visual creatures in the end.

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