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JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

Started by dragon53, March 30, 2018, 06:46:59 PM

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#280
Quote from: Brocc21 on September 24, 2020, 09:30:08 PMLovely to see that the franchise had a planned story from the beginning. Unlike other films...Cough Star Wars sequels Cough

Too bad the 2/3 of it we've seen isn't very good ;)
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Quote from: dragon53 on September 24, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION---Colin Trevorrow said Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum and Laura Dern are returning for prominent roles, not cameos, in DOMINION, "This is the movie that I've been waiting to make from the beginning. It's the one that we have spent the past two movies building to. It really was part of a larger story and part of the design. And I think people may be underestimating the size and importance of Laura Dern and Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum's characters in this movie. It is very much an ensemble, and that [includes] the ability to take these beloved characters from almost 30 years now, and understand how they interact with each other in the context of a world that we've really never seen before, and have not been able to witness until now. It's very exciting for me. I'm having the time of my life."

My bolding. Come off it, I don't believe that for a second.



stargatedalek

#282
As someone who didn't particularly like JW in hindsight and quite adores JW:FK despite its flaws, if they have been approaching these movies conceptually as a trilogy from the beginning that was clearly a very bad idea. That's probably what led to the first movie having unlikable characters with no development to speak of among them and the story of the second feeling rushed in order to fit into an arbitrary three film timeline. If they are trying to cram whatever ideas they've had into a trilogy expect the third to struggle and flounder in vain to tie up far too many loose ends.

Quote from: dinotoyforum on September 25, 2020, 12:52:53 PM
Quote from: dragon53 on September 24, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION---Colin Trevorrow said Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum and Laura Dern are returning for prominent roles, not cameos, in DOMINION, "This is the movie that I've been waiting to make from the beginning. It's the one that we have spent the past two movies building to. It really was part of a larger story and part of the design. And I think people may be underestimating the size and importance of Laura Dern and Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum's characters in this movie. It is very much an ensemble, and that [includes] the ability to take these beloved characters from almost 30 years now, and understand how they interact with each other in the context of a world that we've really never seen before, and have not been able to witness until now. It's very exciting for me. I'm having the time of my life."
My bolding. Come off it, I don't believe that for a second.
I believe it, I don't believe it's a good thing, but I totally believe it. It fully explains the problems these movies have had and they fit exactly with the issues other films designed as trilogies always tend to suffer from.

Frankly trilogies don't make for a good structure of a film series, while I can think of a few good trilogies, I can't think of any that were conceived as trilogies which didn't inherently suffer from being crammed into that structure.

Star Wars is a good example here. Disney not having a plan was, uh, bad, but let's not forget Lucas forcing himself into a three film structure lead to huge cuts in the original trilogy, effectively forcing two movies into Return of the Jedi. Plus the pacing nightmare that was the prequels trying to cram as much as possible into three movies and ending up so cramped they needed two animated series just to help us make some amount of sense out of them. Star Wars has always been lodged in development h-e-double-hockey-sticks from the beginning.

Loon

#283
I can buy Trevorrow having a plan. Just because someone has a plan doesn't mean it's good. And if his work has taught me anything, it's that good ideas are not his strong suit.

Funk

As someone who still defends JPIII, I can't say I'm excited for any more JW at all...

suspsy

The film has been pushed back to June 10, 2022. Makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. Universal wants to make money and as long as there's a pandemic, people aren't heading to movie theatres in droves, and damn rightly so.
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Digibasherx

Quote from: suspsy on October 06, 2020, 11:48:35 PM
The film has been pushed back to June 10, 2022. Makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. Universal wants to make money and as long as there's a pandemic, people aren't heading to movie theatres in droves, and damn rightly so.

Everything's pushed back, from Wonder Woman to Dune.  Mulan flopped and I think all studios learned a lesson (of course, Mulan's flop wasn't just because of timing, it was a poorly written movie that no one wanted).

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#287
Quote from: Digibasherx on October 07, 2020, 12:04:52 AM
Quote from: suspsy on October 06, 2020, 11:48:35 PM
The film has been pushed back to June 10, 2022. Makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. Universal wants to make money and as long as there's a pandemic, people aren't heading to movie theatres in droves, and damn rightly so.

(of course, Mulan's flop wasn't just because of timing, it was a poorly written movie that no one wanted).
I mean, he isn't wrong. It's funny seeing how well the JW/JP community is handling the delay while a certain other community involving a certain radioactive dinosaur keeps crying every time their movie is delayed. 
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Gwangi

I think some of these studios just need to bite the bullet and figure out a way for us to watch these movies at home. Otherwise they aren't making money until there is a vaccine and everyone has it. That could take damn near another year. No, I did not and would not pay $30 to watch Mulan at home. But I would not have gone to the theater to see it either. But yes, I would pay $20 give or take to watch Jurassic World: Dominion, Wonder Woman 84, Godzilla vs. Kong, or Black Widow. Movie theaters are expensive, and as a parent they're inconvenient. I don't want movie theaters to go away but it's way past time that we were able to watch new releases at home. It's the way of the future.

Takama

Universal, If by chance the Virus is still running rampid in 2022, then Release the Damn thing on demand for $20.   And i will watch it.   As much as i like to Support my local Small town theator (Who charges $8 for Popcorn and a Soda along with your ticket, which alowed me to see JW:FK 3 times). Im not risking catching the virus..... to see it on the big screen.

Kotori_Sonoda

I'd be curious to see how much this affects Mattel's 2021 assortment.
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Faelrin

#291
I do think they made the right decision to delay the film. Not only will this give them more time to work on this, but hopefully there will be a vaccine readily available by then. This is definitely one of those films I want to see in the theater, but not with this pandemic going on, and no doubt there is many others in the same boat. That is if theaters can even survive all this mess.

The only other thing I can think of them doing is releasing it on their streaming service Peacock. It's an option at least, if things don't improve by then.

Now of course, since I heavily collect Mattel's line, I can only wonder what this means for the toyline? Do those movie specific figures and new species that were intended for next year's release just get canceled or do those also get delayed to 2022 instead? Hopefully they had a bunch of new species planned anyways. I'm expecting a bunch of repaints too, since those should probably relatively easy and quick to put out (hopefully of figures that had poor distribution). At least there might be more potential CC stuff released since they might be having another season on its way soon.

Anyways I'm surprised the new poster hasn't been shared here yet. I think it looks pretty nice.

Edit: I grabbed the wrong pic. Oops. Fixed now.

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Quote from: Faelrin on October 07, 2020, 02:09:46 AM


Now of course, since I heavily collect Mattel's line, I can only wonder what this means for the toyline? Do those movie specific figures and new species that were intended for next year's release just get canceled or do those also get delayed to 2022 instead? Hopefully they had a bunch of new species planned anyways. I'm expecting a bunch of repaints too, since those should probably relatively easy and quick to put out (hopefully of figures that had poor distribution). At least there might be more potential CC stuff released since they might be having another season on its way soon.


It's hard to say.  Toy companies have to plan way ahead. If they don't release what they have been working on then they will have no product for that quarter.   Look at Godzilla VS Kong, the movie was delayed but they went ahead and released some figures that were slightly spoilerish.  That might be what Mattel does? 


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Loon

#294
Definitely more interesting than any of the other creatures shown so far. But still, it looks like an alien. I'm guessing Lystrosaurus?

Dynomikegojira

Huh I would've figured that the first Paleozoic creature we would see is a Dimetrodon but I'm all for prehistoric diversity I just wonder why the would clone a dicynodont.

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Quote from: Dynomikegojira on October 07, 2020, 08:05:56 PM
Huh I would've figured that the first Paleozoic creature we would see is a Dimetrodon but I'm all for prehistoric diversity I just wonder why the would clone a dicynodont.

Because they found its DNA!

They were soooo lucky they happened to find mosquitos that had dined on all the most famous dinos. :P



stargatedalek

Quote from: dinotoyforum on October 07, 2020, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: Dynomikegojira on October 07, 2020, 08:05:56 PM
Huh I would've figured that the first Paleozoic creature we would see is a Dimetrodon but I'm all for prehistoric diversity I just wonder why the would clone a dicynodont.

Because they found its DNA!

They were soooo lucky they happened to find mosquitos that had dined on all the most famous dinos. :P
To be fair, they retconned that. Instead Wu (and potentially Hammond) knew the dinosaurs were fake the entire time and they're all just hybrids from the get-go designed to look like dinosaurs. The amber was a ruse. I think it's one of the more clever things the later sequels have done actually, just another flea circus.

CityRaptor

Where exactly was that retconned? Last thing I remember was that they are using filler DNA, hence them being unnatural.

Quote from: dinotoyforum on October 07, 2020, 08:22:43 PM
They were soooo lucky they happened to find mosquitos that had dined on all the most famous dinos. :P

A funny conicidence, isn't it? I mean imagine an alternate Jurassic Park:
Grant: How fast are they?
Hammond: Well, we clocked the Albertosaurus at 32 miles an hour.
Sattler: Albertosaurus?
Hammond: Mm-hm.
Sattler:  You said you've got an Albertosaurus?
Hammond: Uh-huh.
Grant: Say again?
Hammond: We have an Albertosaurus.

Of cours a certain Dinosaur only became so famous due to Jurassic Park:
Grant: What species is this?
Wu: Uh, it's an Oviraptor.
Grant: You bred Raptors?
( Naturally the Oviraptors look like Citipati. )



As for the little fellow: For all we know it could a Triassic Dicynodont.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Gwangi

Quote from: dinotoyforum on October 07, 2020, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: Dynomikegojira on October 07, 2020, 08:05:56 PM
Huh I would've figured that the first Paleozoic creature we would see is a Dimetrodon but I'm all for prehistoric diversity I just wonder why the would clone a dicynodont.

Because they found its DNA!

They were soooo lucky they happened to find mosquitos that had dined on all the most famous dinos. :P

I don't remember Velociraptor, Dilophosaurus, or Gallimimus being popular before Jurassic Park came out. In fact I remember as a kid my father (who had seen the movie) trying to convince me that I didn't want to see it because I wouldn't have heard of most of the dinosaurs in it. He was wrong of course, so very wrong.

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