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Lone Trike Art

Started by Lone Trike, June 09, 2018, 06:53:16 PM

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Lone Trike

I opened this new thread here in the art section, to share my process of making dinosaur sculptures with you. Some of you might be interested in this kind of stuff, so I thought it would be a nice idea. Maybe I´ll also post the occasional drawing or painting here, too.

But lets just jump right into the subject, shall we :D
I recently started a new project and instead of making a traditional wire armature for this sculpture, I intend to try a different approach this time.
I acquired a 3D printer a couple of days ago and aim to incorporate that machine into my workflow. It took me some time to figure out the right settings to get a decent print quality. However since that was achieved, I´m really sold on that thing. It´s just an FDM (fused deposition modeling) printer, so for really highly detailed models the print quality won´t suffice. I rather want to use it to print armatures for my sculptures. That way I´m able to design the model digitally, which makes it much easier to get the proportions right and pose the model or even arrange it into a whole scene. Also positions where the model will be parted for mold making and the pegs with the corresponding fittings are much easier to design this way.
For now I´m just experimenting with this, so the base armature I designed is pretty basic. Although I was really surprised about the print quality. Even though I printed at a relatively big layer height of 0.25 mm, the surface detail is much better, than expected! You can even see the individual polygons (ok, it´s a pretty low-poly model, but anyway, I was quite surprised :D).
I now want to sculpt the details in with clay. But since the quality is so good, I will take the next model even further in zbrush in terms of detail and just sculpt the last layer over it with clay or maybe epoxy putty.





It´s going to become a Borealopelta markmitchelli in scale 1:20 (yes, I decided to go a bit bigger this time :))). I designed it in movement, stepping down some sort of sloped area (don´t know yet how the base will look exactly). That way the back with all the osteoderms and spikes is angled downwards a bit and will be much better visible.
model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways


postsaurischian

 :D Hurra! A  Nodosaurid. Can't wait what for it'll look like in the end.

      I'm a bit worried about the final material. Full resin is so much better than for example Shapeways' hollow nylon stuff.

Mini Minmi

Love the pose already, it's very dynamic. It's pretty awesome that you can start the sculpt digitally, print it, then add a thin layer of clay/putty for finishing details before casting it. I assume the production costs are a bit higher using this technique since you have to pay for the plastic to print your base sculpts/armature. But once you've worked out exactly the amount of shaping and details you can put in a quick print, you likely won't print as many as you refine the model.

Lone Trike

Quote from: postsaurischian on June 09, 2018, 07:23:50 PM
:D Hurra! A  Nodosaurid. Can't wait what for it'll look like in the end.

      I'm a bit worried about the final material. Full resin is so much better than for example Shapeways' hollow nylon stuff.
Thanks, Helge! And don´t worry it´s still a traditional sculpture, only the core is a 3d printed armature. So the final product would be resin after all.

Quote from: Mini Minmi on June 09, 2018, 07:59:26 PM
Love the pose already, it's very dynamic. It's pretty awesome that you can start the sculpt digitally, print it, then add a thin layer of clay/putty for finishing details before casting it. I assume the production costs are a bit higher using this technique since you have to pay for the plastic to print your base sculpts/armature. But once you've worked out exactly the amount of shaping and details you can put in a quick print, you likely won't print as many as you refine the model.
Thank you :) The costs are not that high actually. I didn´t use more than 100 g of PLA (the printing material), which equals around 2€. A simple wire armature would probably still be cheaper, but for a prototype those costs can almost be neglected. 
model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

Lone Trike

Next steps I did so far, were building up the volumes and refining the shapes a little bit, especially the leg muscles. I also started with some detail at the head and paws. Everything looks still pretty rough. So after finishing this step for the whole body, I would start with the first smoothing pass to blend everything together.

model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

Jose S.M.

#5
It looks amazing already .

Mini Minmi

Love it. You're very good at defining muscle under the skin.

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Lone Trike

Thanks guys! Good to get some feedback!
I started with the detailing. The plan of attack is going from the head to the tip of the tail. I´m not that happy with the quality of detail so far. It´s been some time since I last worked with oil based clay. It´s quite sticky and needs some "persuasion" to take the shape I want it to. I will see how it looks after the first detail pass is completely finished and then decide, if I go over a second time.

model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

Lanthanotus

I think it looks great so far.... so each scale is sculpted and set individually, rather than stamped on the existing body?

Lone Trike

Quote from: Lanthanotus on June 14, 2018, 06:14:03 PM
I think it looks great so far.... so each scale is sculpted and set individually, rather than stamped on the existing body?
Thanks! Yes, so far each scale is sculpted individually. I don´t know yet, if I´ll use stamps on this one. Maybe on the belly, if it looks good and fits the style. The osteoderms on the back will definitely have to be hand sculpted, since I want them to have the same arrangement and shape as in the fossil. It´s hard to do that with a stamp.
model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

Doug Watson

Looking really good, interesting use of FDM for the armature.

postsaurischian

  :D  The Borealopelta is looking wonderful so far. I want one!

Quote from: Lone Trike on June 12, 2018, 04:26:24 PM
....... only the core is a 3d printed armature. So the final product would be resin after all.

    Good to know :) .

Halichoeres

This looks fantastic. Really inventive use of printing, too.
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ceratopsian

I am really looking forward to seeing this when finished.

Lone Trike

Thanks, guys for all the feedback! Next update should come Tuesday or maybe tomorrow. I took a break over the weekend :) Sometimes it´s helpful to let the sculpture just sit for a couple of days to get a fresh sight on it.
model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

Lone Trike

Ok, not a big update, but at least I want to show you guys, how I sculpt the scales on this model.
I´m just rolling little clay-bands and press them to the sculpture. Then I use a wire-tool and separate them into individual scales. Eventually I use the same wire tool to refine the shape of the scales. It doesn´t have to look perfect, since I will brush them with turpentine to smooth and blend everything together. Not really difficult to do, but very tedious :))

model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

Jose S.M.

I cant wait to seeing the final results, I'm sure it's going to be great !

Mini Minmi

What an interesting technique to create scales! I'm glad you shared it, thank you.

Halichoeres

That's a clever technique. I think it's a much more organic effect than you get with a texture stamp.
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Lone Trike

Quote from: Mini Minmi on June 19, 2018, 08:28:25 PM
What an interesting technique to create scales! I'm glad you shared it, thank you.
Thank you Mini Minmi! And no problem, I´m glad to help.

Quote from: Halichoeres on June 19, 2018, 11:39:22 PM
That's a clever technique. I think it's a much more organic effect than you get with a texture stamp.
Thanks! It depends how they are used! If used correctly they can look pretty decent as well.
model kits available at: Instagram at LoneTrikeStudio Shapeways

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