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Safari Ltd - new for 2019

Started by Kayakasaurus, July 31, 2018, 06:43:12 PM

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tyrantqueen

Quote from: Concavenator on October 03, 2018, 08:32:31 AM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on September 30, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
I haven't been following this thread very closely- has a large picture of the Camara been shown? I'm interested in seeing how it compares to the old Carnegie :)

Customising the Allosaurus by replacing the claws might also be a fun project >:D

There is a review of it,if that's helpful:

https://youtu.be/dojguTnsnl8

It also compares it with the old Carnegie version.

Pd:Sorry for the double post  :-[

Very nice, thank you. Looks like it's an improvement over the old Carnegie.


tyrantqueen

QuoteNoticed that the Allosaurus is missing. I wonder if it has been pulled from the line-up due to the painting miscue.


That would be impressive, but....

;D



IrritatorRaji


Quote from: Concavenator on October 03, 2018, 08:32:31 AM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on September 30, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
I haven't been following this thread very closely- has a large picture of the Camara been shown? I'm interested in seeing how it compares to the old Carnegie :)

Customising the Allosaurus by replacing the claws might also be a fun project >:D

There is a review of it,if that's helpful:

https://youtu.be/dojguTnsnl8

It also compares it with the old Carnegie version.

Pd:Sorry for the double post  :-[

I love how much more bulkier the new one is, it feels so much more alive than the Carnegie version.

Jose S.M.

#583
The Camarasaurus has me very excited, I think together with styracosaurus is the one I want the most. The Carnegie is a classic but just the face sculpt of these one tops it for me. And it was on my wish list for this year so I can't wait to get it.

Shonisaurus

Sincerely all the figures of Safari 2019 have me enthusiastic, even the Tyrannosaurus rex that is the weakest figure of the group. I hope that in January or February I have them all on my shelves.  8)

SidB

Quote from: tyrantqueen on October 03, 2018, 01:57:29 PM
QuoteNoticed that the Allosaurus is missing. I wonder if it has been pulled from the line-up due to the painting miscue.


That would be impressive, but....

;D



Thanks, TQ, I stand corrected. Classic case of not seeing what I didn't expect to see, I suppose.

Vidusaurus

Quote from: IrritatorRaji on October 03, 2018, 05:58:43 PM

I love how much more bulkier the new one is, it feels so much more alive than the Carnegie version.

That seems to be the big distinguisher between the old Safari lines and the new direction they've taken (~2010 onwards).

Stuckasaurus (Dino Dad Reviews)

Quote from: IrritatorRaji on October 03, 2018, 05:58:43 PM

Quote from: Concavenator on October 03, 2018, 08:32:31 AM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on September 30, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
I haven't been following this thread very closely- has a large picture of the Camara been shown? I'm interested in seeing how it compares to the old Carnegie :)

Customising the Allosaurus by replacing the claws might also be a fun project >:D

There is a review of it,if that's helpful:

https://youtu.be/dojguTnsnl8

It also compares it with the old Carnegie version.

Pd:Sorry for the double post  :-[

I love how much more bulkier the new one is, it feels so much more alive than the Carnegie version.

Grrrrr.... My wallet needs protection, and I already have the Carnegie version, and so I've been trying so bloody hard not to fall completely in love with that Camarasaurus model... but gorram it Doug, you've created a true masterpiece. It looks even better in this review video, and those colors, while subtle, definitely still manage to pop!

amargasaurus cazaui

Just needs a hood scoop and whale tail spoiler like all Camaro-saurus have!
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


IrritatorRaji

Quote from: Stuckasaurus on October 04, 2018, 04:07:21 AM
Grrrrr.... My wallet needs protection, and I already have the Carnegie version, and so I've been trying so bloody hard not to fall completely in love with that Camarasaurus model...

Same here, I already have the Carnegie but this new version is too good to pass up!


Ezikot

i haven't said anything yet on the new Doug Watson's models...
because i just can say that i love them  :)

Sim

#591
I'm surprised the 2019 Wild Safari prehistoric line-up didn't have 13 new figures like the last two years, with most being by Doug but also some by someone else.  I guess I'm a little disappointed by that, as I had been hoping the sculptor who did the Wild Safari Diplodocus/Malawisaurus/Amargasaurus would do a Plateosaurus for 2019.  I've grown to like a lot about those three WS sauropods, in particular how their skin has been sculpted, and I think the only things I really dislike are 1. that the paint on the Amargasaurus's head makes it look too much like a skull, and 2. how huge the Amargasaurus is.

Still, I think the 2019 WS prehistoric line-up is one of Safari's best so far, all things considered.  I find it satisfying because of the Stegosaurus. :)


Thoughts I have regarding Safari 2019 figures:

Stegosaurus:  This is my favourite of the 2019 Safari figures and I intend to get it.  I actually prefer the colouration this figure has in the photos of it on its own to its colouration in the photo of it with other new figures such as on the Safari catalog.  The reason for this is that I find in the photo with the other figures, the white goes too far up the Stegosaurus's face for me.  I'm happy the new Safari Stegosaurus doesn't have a green-based colour scheme.  It wasn't until people commented on it in this thread that I've realised a green-based colour scheme has become boring to me for Stegosaurus and perhaps other stegosaurs too.  I also feel if the Stegosaurus was green it wouldn't work well with the new Safari Allosaurus, there would be too much green!

Allosaurus:  I find this an interesting representation of Allosaurus.  I like its colour scheme, and I'm glad Doug has mentioned to Safari the paintjob problem in the pre-release photos of this figure.  I was intending to get this figure too, but after seeing that Eofauna's first dinosaur is yet another Giganotosaurus, I've become bored of allosauroids.  I'm happy Safari has made a new Allosaurus, I think a new Stegosaurus and Allosaurus by Safari were both needed.  I'm a bit upset that I'm not feeling interested in the new Safari Allosaurus anymore.  Maybe after some time passes I'll become interested in this Allosaurus again, since the Eofauna Giga was only shown today, I don't know.

Prestosuchus:  I think the species choice is really cool!  I also think this figure's sculpt looks amazing.  I like its colouration too, except for the colouration of the head. Unfortunately, I dislike how those thin black stripes make its head look.  I think I'd have liked it a lot more if instead of those thin black stripes, its head had thicker black patches like on the other parts of the Prestosuchus.  I can't get past how I feel about the colouration of its head, so unfortunately I'm not planning to get this figure.  However, I'm happy that there are people who like how this figure looks and who will enjoy this figure!

Camarasaurus:  I think I like the colouration of this figure.  I dislike its skin textures though.  This isn't a problem for me as Camarasaurus isn't a genus I'm interested in having a figure of.  Additionally, I don't have much interest in sauropods, and the one sauropod that I am quite interested in is Shunosaurus which is already in the Wild Safari line.  However, I'm quite interested in non-sauropod sauropodomorphs, and I hope if Safari makes a Plateosaurus or another bipedal sauropodomorph I'm interested in it won't have skin textures like the ones of this Camarasaurus.

terrorchicken

Quote from: Sim on October 01, 2018, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: terrorchicken on September 28, 2018, 12:21:36 AM
The stego... I find its very horizontal posture a bit odd but I didn't know about this recent find it was based on. I dont see this new throat armor that everyone is talking about? I just see the usual  plates and spikes.

avatar_terrorchicken @terrorchicken, this photo shows the skeleton of Stegosaurus with the throat armour included: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allosaurus_attacks_Stegosaurus.jpg

So, the throat armour of the new Safari Stegosaurus is the many small osteoderms on the underside of its head and neck.  They can be seen in photos of this figure on Safari's website: https://store.safariltd.com/collections/whats-new/products/stegosaurus



thanks SIM! that's interesting! I was expecting something like plated armor, that's why I didn't notice it in the pics.


Quote from: Appalachiosaurus on October 03, 2018, 06:34:52 AM


I'd probably like Freedom Dragon more if he didn't look like those weird anthropomorphic airplanes from deviantart.

it looks like a pokemon  ::)

there's still so many more types of dragon they could make and they come up with this? at least the amazing hippocamp makes up for it.

tyrantqueen

avatar_Doug Watson @Doug Watson is the Camara one of yours? If so, good work. I genuinely like it.

Doug Watson

Quote from: tyrantqueen on October 05, 2018, 12:32:31 AM
avatar_Doug Watson @Doug Watson is the Camara one of yours? If so, good work. I genuinely like it.

Yes it and the rest of the new ones are mine.

JohannesB

#595
Very nice Camarasaurus figure. Nice tweaks and updates compared to the Carnegie model. I like sauropod figures best without individuallly sculpted scales/pebbles on the skin. The scales/pebbles are often too big for such a relatively small figure, I think, which makes it look smaller then what it was in real life (it takes away from the suggestion of it being a huge animal). All the other figures are wonderful too. At least as beautiful as some of the best sculpts by Forest Rogers (one of my favorite sculptors).

Moldovan0731

#596
avatar_Doug Watson @Doug Watson yes, unfortunately the Spinosaurus figure wouldn't have been able to stand on it's legs neither in this pose:



Nor in this one (this pose would've required neck ligaments according to Cau Btw: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.hu&sl=it&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://theropoda.blogspot.com/2014/09/spinosaurus-revolution-episodio-iv-una.html%3Fm%3D1&xid=17259,15700019,15700122,15700124,15700149,15700186,15700191,15700201,15700214&usg=ALkJrhhMIewekpmeb2xpd-_Qhz-z_Z3PqA):



I like the solution Schleich went with though. It's claws touching the ground for stability don't bother me. I would've liked a similar pose for the Safari Spinosaurs too. Oh well :-\

Concavenator

#597
There's a problem with the Spinosaurus though.The recent paper claiming that it wasn't a  specialised,aquatic dinosaur is a direct attack to the 2014 model.

This new paper has demonstrated that a Spinosaurus in water may have fallen to one side,making it very difficult for Spinosaurus to actually swim.

And if Ibrahim includes the 2014 version in his rebuttal,thinking the new material that's being studied for Spinosaurus doesn't contradict his own model,there would still be a lot of confusion.

avatar_Patrx @Patrx ,what do you think about the Safari Spinosaurus?Will you get it? What do you think about its accuracy?

suspsy

Quote from: Moldovan0731 on October 05, 2018, 02:19:39 PM
avatar_Doug Watson @Doug Watson yes, unfortunately the Spinosaurus figure wouldn't have been able to stand on it's legs neither in this pose:




A base would nip that issue right in the bud. I'd totally snap up a base-mounted Spinosaurus in that pose.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

Patrx

Quote from: Concavenator on October 05, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
There's a problem with the Spinosaurus though.The recent paper claiming that it wasn't a  specialised,aquatic dinosaur is a direct attack to the 2014 model.
This new paper has demonstrated that a Spinosaurus in water may have fallen to one side,making it very difficult for Spinosaurus to actually swim.
And if Ibrahim includes the 2014 version in his rebuttal,thinking the new material that's being studied for Spinosaurus doesn't contradict his own model,there would still be a lot of confusion.
avatar_Patrx @Patrx ,what do you think about the Safari Spinosaurus?Will you get it? What do you think about its accuracy?

Unfortunately, we still don't know very much about Spinosaurus' walking posture, so choosing a pose for a figure is tricky business, and a swimming one seems like the safest bet. The Henderson paper does suggest that the animal was a poor swimmer, which would be odd–it doesn't appear to have been a very efficient walker, either, and it must have been getting around somehow! One thing that stands out about the study, though, is that the model used to predict Spinosaurus' interactions with water has a narrow torso, like most theropods. Not much is known about Spinosaurus' ribcage, but what little we do have suggests a rounder torso. Since the conclusions of the Henderson study as goes Spinosaurus all hinge on that narrow-bodied model, I'm inclined, for the moment, to doubt that the animal really would have had much trouble in the water.

So, overall, I think the pose and anatomy of the new Safari Spinosaurus is pretty good! I just wish it didn't have such crocodile-like soft tissue. I mean, they're both semiaquatic, narrow-snouted archosaurs, so I understand the impulse there, but it just seems a little too convergent and makes the animal less interesting to look at, in my opinion. Though I will probably buy it at some point, it's at a relatively low priority.  :)

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