Mattel--New for 2020

[Appalachiosaurus]

The JP3 toys weren't so bad. Mattel's reluctance to make an actual JP3 Raptor has lead me to go back and buy the Hasbro ones from 2001, and while a bit big and very unbalanced, I think they're a good example of what Hasbro could have done with JW if they didn't waste the brand like that.

In the end though, Hasbro failing so spectacularly turned out to be a good thing in the long run since we got these great Mattel figures.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

The JP3 toys weren't so bad. Mattel's reluctance to make an actual JP3 Raptor has lead me to go back and buy the Hasbro ones from 2001, and while a bit big and very unbalanced, I think they're a good example of what Hasbro could have done with JW if they didn't waste the brand like that.

In the end though, Hasbro failing so spectacularly turned out to be a good thing in the long run since we got these great Mattel figures.

A JP3 Raptor or lack there of is more about Target not wanting it. They did have a prototype.  We just received it in the non canon colors.   I have one of the Hasbro's I repainted into an accurate JP3 Male, but the balance issues are a problem..some of the weirdest poses I have ever seen attempted.

[Flaffy]

Oh cool, I like that Siats a lot. Why are we complaining about the sculpt? We already had a good idea of how it would look from the silhouette.

I wouldn't doubt that the figures are already in production, and so here we have a leak. Are you guys really hoping that's not how the Siats looks or something?

I specifically mentioned Allosaurus V.1 due to how the teeth extend way too far back on the skull. That was my main gripe about the figure.
The proportions are definitely wonky and cartoonish, but I assume that's because it needs to fit with a potential Camp Cretaceous design of the creature.

[Faelrin]

So it might be worth mentioning that the Telltale game styled Troodon, Kenner styled Gallimimus repaint, and many other repaints were revealed earlier by accident, and they are early prototypes. Safe to say those might be intended for 2021 instead of this year (which may explain why none were at Toy Fair. To be fair, there's still quite a lot on the way for this year). If that is the case, then that means Troodon is not one of the new species this year, and that in turn still leaves yet another we don't know about, as only 15 of the 17 have been revealed so far. Jurassic Outpost posted an update to one of their articles, and have since removed all of those early images (which Collect Jurassic did as well).

https://jurassicoutpost.com/huge-assortment-of-mattel-jurassic-world-and-camp-cretaceous-reveals-from-toy-fair-2020/

[stargatedalek]

Dammit, I wish I'd saved those images...

[Raptoralpha]

Dammit, I wish I'd saved those images...

I haven't been contacted by Mattel (yet) about these, so they're still available on jptoys.com . But obviously, should they ask me to remove them, I will do that ASAP...

[terrorchicken]

my favorites are the mujungatholus and the new dilophosaurus. Nice to finally have another greenish dilophosaurus!
Kinda like the scutosaurus, edmontosaurus, gasosaurus, blue plesiosaur and sinoceratops but I don't know of I'll get them. I wish they had made another variant of the smaller size pteranodon, Id like to have a pteranodon but they have become hard to find.

[Kotori_Sonoda]

So it might be worth mentioning that the Telltale game styled Troodon, Kenner styled Gallimimus repaint, and many other repaints were revealed earlier by accident, and they are early prototypes. Safe to say those might be intended for 2021 instead of this year (which may explain why none were at Toy Fair. To be fair, there's still quite a lot on the way for this year). If that is the case, then that means Troodon is not one of the new species this year, and that in turn still leaves yet another we don't know about, as only 15 of the 17 have been revealed so far. Jurassic Outpost posted an update to one of their articles, and have since removed all of those early images (which Collect Jurassic did as well).

https://jurassicoutpost.com/huge-assortment-of-mattel-jurassic-world-and-camp-cretaceous-reveals-from-toy-fair-2020/

Damn, and I was quite hyped for those!
I always liked the colors of the Kenner Gallimimus, so I was excited to pick up a Mattel Gallimimus with that color scheme. Oh well, I guess I just have to wait.

[ITdactyl]

Out of curiosity (and slightly out of topic - so sorry), does anyone know of a resource/website/outlet that collects info about unreleased JP/JW dinosaurs? I mean those dinosaurs that got prototypes but never went to production.

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

Out of curiosity (and slightly out of topic - so sorry), does anyone know of a resource/website/outlet that collects info about unreleased JP/JW dinosaurs? I mean those dinosaurs that got prototypes but never went to production.

JPToys is a comprehensive guide of every Jurassic Park toy and has a section under each line for prototypes and unreleased figures.

[Sarapaurolophus]

That Sinoceratops has got my attention! Any reason why they previously named their Pachyrhino this? Nothing new for JP/JW to swap names but that one had me scratching my head because they just took Pachyrhino and put their Sino color scheme on it.
Good they finally made a real Sino. I want to get one to repaint.

[stargatedalek]

That Sinoceratops has got my attention! Any reason why they previously named their Pachyrhino this? Nothing new for JP/JW to swap names but that one had me scratching my head because they just took Pachyrhino and put their Sino color scheme on it.
Good they finally made a real Sino. I want to get one to repaint.

The film itself originally had Pachyrhinosaurus, they are even in some of the early trailers. They were edited into Sinoceratops for unknown reasons.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

That Sinoceratops has got my attention! Any reason why they previously named their Pachyrhino this? Nothing new for JP/JW to swap names but that one had me scratching my head because they just took Pachyrhino and put their Sino color scheme on it.
Good they finally made a real Sino. I want to get one to repaint.

The film itself originally had Pachyrhinosaurus, they are even in some of the early trailers. They were edited into Sinoceratops for unknown reasons.

Here's where it's mentioned they "changed the name".  https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisLikesDinos/status/965954342414143488

Fan speculation says that it looked just like the ones from WWD and may have even been based on the ones in that film. To avoid confusion and other " issues" they altered the design into a Sinoceratops.  Mattel had already planned the figure and had casts done..so.. they went with it.  Basically we got something based on a concept that was changed and is actually pretty cool.  Reminds me of the entire first Kenner line that was based on the novel more than the film.

[Faelrin]

To further confirm the Pachyrhinosaurus WWD thing there is this concept art I found (which is my first time seeing this, and was on linked on the Jurassic Park wikia page):



Link to the tweet with it: https://twitter.com/chrislikesdinos/status/1097933758207090688?lang=en

More information here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BuEvL4BFVdg/

After reading the stuff in both of those links, apparently there were plans for it to be one of the dioramas in the Lockwood Manor, but that ended up being changed for whatever reason.


It gets weirder though, as there is this concept art and an early model (which has only one hole in the frill, as sort of battle damage, which was probably intended for one individual before it was changed that the entire species would all have it) that is much more in line with the film design despite them still going with Pachyrhinosaurus at this point, despite it very minimally resembling a Pachyrhinosaurus (as it was only changed after the first trailer dropped. In fact the extinction list on the DPG site originally only had Pachyrhinosaurus on it originally, but not Sinoceratops, which was added later, and there is proof of that still on the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180205033256/http://www.dinosaurprotectiongroup.com/images/posters/cruelty.jpg).








If going by the information in this interview: https://jurassicoutpost.com/behind-the-scenes-look-at-designing-jurassic-world-dinosaur-toys-with-mattels-kristen-sanzari/ it is possible the team at Mattel were told to make a Pachyrhinosaurus long before its design was finalized or given to them, hence even the prototype of the toy being different from what is seen in the concept art and early models, and why the coloration differs from the final product. The color change and name change was likely an easy fix, or was caught early enough on before the toy finished production, but probably too late after molds for the toy were finished. Interesting enough is that the mini figure's checklist still calls it a Pachyrhinosaurus. Of course this is all my best guess on the limited information out there.


In a similar manner, the Dual Attack BaBR Allosaurus was clearly based on the concept art, and maybe even the animatronic, versus the final digital model that was used (which is also very reminiscent of the JWE one).









And in case anyone was wondering, the BaBR Allosaurus was based off of A. jimmadseni. This whole twitter thread and comments is absolutely worth a read to anyone interested in this stuff stuff: https://twitter.com/king_tyranno/status/1228337133204758528 It also now means my review of this toy is now inaccurate, as I thought it was based on A. fragilis.


Lastly on the topic of the 2020 toys, it appears that the pre-orders on Entertainment Earth have now been pushed back to March. The Edmontosaurus had recently shown up on Amazon for pre-order (which sold out twice, and I haven't seen it in stock since) for with an expected arrival date of March too.

New HD gallery/recap on Collect Jurassic of the NYTF reveals: https://www.collectjurassic.com/022620-2/ and https://www.facebook.com/collectjurassic/photos/?tab=album&album_id=884562972002634

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Basically confirms what with the hole in the frill it would look almost exactly like Patchi from WWD.

They should have just used the design from the JW Live show


The eye placement, regardless of species, still bugs me on that Allosaurus.

[Appalachiosaurus]

Important to note that FK had a collaboration with WildAid for rhino preservation, even with the short hashtag #rhinosaurus and a video with Bryce and "Perry".

https://youtu.be/q4S_lUWItc0

They probably picked Pachyrhinosaurus for the pun, and gave it an inaccurate horn to further the connection. We know the name was changed extremely late in production, after the first trailer, and probably because Colin saw the initial backlash. From his perspective, they made up a dinosaur for a campaign that just so happened to accidentally look very similar to an already existing Dinosaur, and since he is the franchise director he had the power for a last minute course correction.

[tanystropheus]

Oh it's...not good from an accuracy standpoint, but that's just how it is with Jurassic Park merchandise. As an action figure I think I like it, I'm not super sold on the design but I think if I saw it in person I'd come around.

Don't know why you keep making these premature judgments regarding accuracy.

1. Mattel's Siats meekerorum is the most accurate representation of Siats meekerorum in the toy market because it's the only one.
2. Considering that it is an Allosaurid by default, it makes sense that Mattel would model it after it's very own Allosaurid models.
3. Aside from some scant vertebrae elements, there isn't much material discovered for a complete reconstruction, allowing considerable latitude with respect to creative license.
4. You don't know what you are talking about.

[suspsy]

2. Considering that it is an Allosaurid by default, it makes sense that Mattel would model it after it's very own Allosaurid models.

Except that Siats is currently considered a neovenatorid, not an allosaurid.

[Appalachiosaurus]

2. Considering that it is an Allosaurid by default, it makes sense that Mattel would model it after it's very own Allosaurid models.

Except that Siats is currently considered a neovenatorid, not an allosaurid.

I think he meant to say Allosauroid.

[Ceratopsianking]

Could the 2021 stuff possibly be for jurassic world 3?