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*sigh* do you ever think we are going to get more prehistoric mammals

Started by crankydinosaur, February 16, 2020, 02:09:02 AM

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Syndicate Bias

Put in in the corrupt a wish thread. It just so happens my tripod Giga wish came true. I highly suggest it!

Blade-of-the-Moon

I don't really collect them, mainly just dinosaurs here.  Now if we could get some 1:1 Mesozoic Era mammals I would gladly buy them.

SidB

I would think that sales of Cenozoic mammals have always been slow, compared to dinosaurs. That's probably not likely to change anytime soon. Maybe it's even worse now, so that's why we're only  getting Papo's megaloceros, as far as I know, this year. I was disappointed that CollectA didn't produce their customary one for the current year.

tanystropheus

While we can definitely use more prehistoric mammals, companies like Safari (e.g. Uintatherium) , CollectA (Elasmotherium), Eofauna (Deinotherium/Palaeoloxodon) and even Papo (Megaceros/Cave Bear) are helping increase the portfolio considerably over the years. To be honest, I would love to have more prehistoric rhinoceros.

suspsy

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John

I just got Eofauna's Deinotherium this past Thursday,so in my case the answer to the thread's question was a big yes. :)
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Shonisaurus

I understand that yes, companies are much more cautious when it comes to producing prehistoric mammals since they are the least interesting prehistoric animals in the toy market but I hope that next year Collecta, for example, reedits a new paraceratherium figure that it leaves in its place to said prehistoric rhinoceros (the largest rhinoceros in history) and in fact as discussed this year they have made a megaloceros the Papo brand.

I suppose that Collecta has replaced its prehistoric mammal this year with megalodon (which is a fish that coexisted with the prehistoric mammals of its time) although it was also noted that its lisowicia bojani is a mamiferoid reptile for what could be for the Collecta brand as the prehistoric mammal of this year.

I completely agree that Mesozoic mammals should be made are very little explored prehistoric animals in relation to their commercialization by the toy industry.

I have my hopes that Eofauna will surprise us with a new prehistoric mammal. Perhaps paraceratherium and with an acceptable size? Dreaming is free.

Ikessauro

I think we are going to get more over the years, but it's not likely that one single company will produce a large wave of mammals in one go. They don't really sell so well as dinos. I would more than welcome a few weird ones like Synthetoceras, Sivatheriyum to name a couple.

suspsy

It would certainly be neat to see some Mesozoic mammal toys, but aside from a very select few like Repenomamus, most of them are pretty indistinguishable to regular folk. Just a bunch of rat-like critters.

I'm kind of surprised CollectA hasn't done Megatherium yet. But who knows what will be revealed come November?
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stargatedalek

Even pterosaurs don't sell as well as dinosaurs do. Case in point CollectA's supreme pterosaur line. Pterosaurs don't sell as well, oversized figures don't sell as well, so they combine them since anyone who really likes pterosaurs still likely buy it even if it's big, and people who want big figures will likely buy them regardless of what species was done.

Personally, I think mesozoic mammals could sell even better than cenozoic ones with the right hook, depending on how one marketed and designed them you could make them all look quite distinct. Package each one with a small/baby dinosaur/pterosaur/giant bug/etc. to be either its friend or prey depending on the mammal and you've got a weird gimmick that grabs kids/parents attention without requiring outright stylization of the animals.

SidB

So many of us were sort of shocked by what Papo did with their Giganotosaurus, so i'd be quite curious about what Papo, with their penchant for the dramatic (which sometimes edges over into the grotesque), would do with the Paraceratherium. Could be "interesting."

Shonisaurus

S @SidB Papo's art in the position of his figures is debatable but makes him a peculiar and unique and even interesting toy brand in spite of everything (I respect and admire his artistic philosophy although I don't share it). His baryonyx of Papo is still an interesting figure although it does not resemble a real baryonyx according to artistic interpretations. We will have to see how physically a paraceratherium, megatherium or synthetoceras is, to give three examples.

But honestly I get the impression that the Papo brand is focused on recent prehistoric mammals and animals of the Ice Age and I don't think I will make a paraceratherium, synthetoceras but it would point to a biped and megatherium with a curious posture like the therizinosaurus e even the giganotosaurus.


ITdactyl

Mass release seem to be limited to the big 5 (Mammoth, Smilodon, Megatherium, Glyptodon, Daeodon)... or their close relatives.  Mammals seem to be facing the same challenges as dinosaurs before, re: if they're not awesomebro enough, they don't transcend pop culture. And if they're not part of pop culture, they don't get toy figures.

I'm happy we got the Safari Macrauchenia and the CollectA Andrewsarchus (both awesome figures), but I'm curious if they sell equally as well as the dinosaur figures of the respective brands.

I'm still waiting for an Eohippus or Hyracotherium and maybe another company's take on Thylacosmilus (I think geoworld already produced one)

SidB

I was checking out eBay recently for "Prehistoric Mammals." and was surprised how few there were for sale. Used to be far more.

austrosaurus

I feel like the trend is actually on the up; after the significant dip from the 80's-early 2010's, there have been significantly more, and for the most part more diverse options, in the last few years (i.e. Safari's Megacerops, Uintatherium, Macrauchenia, Daeodon & Hyaenodon). I am surprised that glyptodonts haven't experienced something of a revival, I guess they must just be too similar to ankylosaurs to bother with.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: austrosaurus on February 18, 2020, 03:00:02 PM
I feel like the trend is actually on the up; after the significant dip from the 80's-early 2010's, there have been significantly more, and for the most part more diverse options, in the last few years (i.e. Safari's Megacerops, Uintatherium, Macrauchenia, Daeodon & Hyaenodon). I am surprised that glyptodonts haven't experienced something of a revival, I guess they must just be too similar to ankylosaurs to bother with.

I understand that although giant armadillos (which is evolutionary convergence with their predecessors on earth like the Ankylosaurus) have little sales success. I don't think the seven-banded armadillo and the pangolin are sold excessively in the toy market.

There are always giant resin armadillos. Regardless, I would like them to produce glyptodon, doedicurus or peltephilus, they are very curious prehistoric mammals but as you say from my personal opinion they are not sold because even the current seven-band armadillos are not sold.

Faelrin

There are definitely a number of Cenozoic animals and prehistoric mammals in particular I'd like to see done. Particularly early horses like Eohippus, early whales and their ancestors (aside from Basilosaurus) like Ambulocetus and Livyatan, and prehistoric cats (other then Smilodon, or carnivores in general such as the cave bear, hyena, lion, dire wolf, etc), early humans and their ancestors or relatives, and animals like Arctodus, Glyptodon, Paraceratherium, Platybelodon, and Thylacosmilus which have very little or no toy representation as it is. Prehistoric bats would also be interesting, but I don't think I'll get my hopes of seeing figures of those anytime soon (beyond the Yowies figures anyways).

And going for Cenozoic animals in general other then mammals, birds such as the terror birds, moas, Haast's eagle, and plenty of others could use some better representation. I also wish reptiles like Carbonemys, Meiolania, Megalania, Purussaurus, Quinkana, and Stupendemys, and of course Titanoboa (although at least Rebor did that, and Kaiyodo made figures of both Meiolania and Megalania, though I am not sure how rare those might be to find these days). I would hope that at least Southlands Replicas would be interested in producing some of those.

Mesozoic mammals don't particularly interest me as much (possibly because of my lack of knowledge on them), with the exception of Repenomamus, although I do agree there isn't much out there for them as it is, so it certainly wouldn't hurt to see more.
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Shonisaurus

I also like mammalian reptiles such as cynognathus, moschops, estemmenosuchus apart from the one in Collecta that has more estemmenosuchus, repenomamus, gorgonopsides (such as Gorgonops or inostrancevia), lystrosaurus, dycinodon (apart from Collecta lisowicia bojani).

Prehistoric birds like the elephant bird, the moa, dodo.

Cenozoic reptiles such as megalania or titanoboa.

And prehistoric whales that are not always the well-known basilosaurus such as dorudon, pakicetus, ambulocetus, rhodocetus ... not only terrestrial mammals but marine mammals.

Ravonium

I think this year's near-lack of Cenozoic mammals is just an anomaly, but I do want to see a wider range of them in the coming years.

Quote from: austrosaurus on February 18, 2020, 03:00:02 PM
I am surprised that glyptodonts haven't experienced something of a revival, I guess they must just be too similar to ankylosaurs to bother with.

Same here, and I'm even more surprised that Megatherium hasn't seen a revival either  :-\

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