The Identification thread

[crazy8wizard]

I can tell you for certain that these are knockoff sculpts of the safari ltd baby dinosaurs. Unfortunately I don't know who the sculptor is because while they are based on the safari figures, they're considerably smaller than even the Toob models (I own the Parasaurolophus and it is absolutely miniscule) and the sculpts are ever so slightly unique. I do however know that these were distributed for gumball machines and came in little capsules.

It would appear I am mistaken! While there do seem to be gumball machine versions of these out there the manufacturer seems to be Chap Mei! (or at the very least are included in chap mei sets)

[Fossilized-Rubber]

Argh darn, you're right. I found a shop selling the sets online and they're on sprues inside the toy. There's no way I'm buying a huge playset just for the sprues. At least now I can go through the sets online and see what else is part of it. I think I've seen the baby dino toobs online but they're being sold for a fortune. The temptation is to buy some and cast some of my own for monocolor figs to try out casting.

@crazy8wizard Thanks so much for doing this research for me, I really appreciate it.

[Faelrin]

@Fossilized-Rubber Glad to see the true of identity of those Safari Ltd baby look-a-likes were discovered. The large T. rex in that same set seems also appears to be inspired by the large electronic JPIII one (in case anyone was wondering).



Anyways, does anyone know the manufacturer of this screamer Diplocaulus in this post? I find it rather amusing there's a screamer of Diplocaulus out there, of all things. I was reading some Schleich reviews and checked out some links in the comments, and scrolled by this guy.

https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3947.msg135197#msg135197

[BlueKrono]

@Fossilized-Rubber

Anyways, does anyone know the manufacturer of this screamer Diplocaulus in this post? I find it rather amusing there's a screamer of Diplocaulus out there, of all things. I was reading some Schleich reviews and checked out some links in the comments, and scrolled by this guy.

https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3947.msg135197#msg135197

Imperial. The Toy Animal Wiki is a good resource, if somewhat incomplete.

https://toyanimalwiki.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Imperial_Diplocaulus

[Faelrin]

@BlueKrono Thanks. It looked familiar, because of the forked tongue, but the different coloration threw me off. Plus the pic on the toyanimalwiki is from the backside, where as that other one captures the full extant of its screamer mouth in all its glory lol. I have several Diplocaulus (Kaiyodo, Play Visions), plus a few more on the way so I might have to hunt for this one eventually.

[BlueKrono]

@BlueKrono Thanks. It looked familiar, because of the forked tongue, but the different coloration threw me off. Plus the pic on the toyanimalwiki is from the backside, where as that other one captures the full extant of its screamer mouth in all its glory lol. I have several Diplocaulus (Kaiyodo, Play Visions), plus a few more on the way so I might have to hunt for this one eventually.

Yes, I also have it in two other colors: blue and kind of a magenta/light maroon.

[Faelrin]

So as I was research MPC figures, I came across this seller with a bunch of them, and another vintage figures. They have a few plesiosaur, Ichthyosaurus, mosasaur, and Woolly Mammoth figures stated to be from Diener Industries. Are these from that company, and not related to their line of erasers?

Plesiosaur:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/235022830571



https://www.ebay.com/itm/325666611743



https://www.ebay.com/itm/325666613631

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Ichthyosaurus:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/235022848288



https://www.ebay.com/itm/325667941158

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Mammoth:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/235022856087

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There's another seller with a lot of Diener eraser figures, but one looks like Godzilla, and the other I'm not sure. My first guess was Plateosaurus, but that figure has arms on the body instead.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256217957895



Edit: I forgot to add the mosasaurs the other seller had as well, so here they are:

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/235022839899



https://www.ebay.com/itm/325666619358

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[Fossilized-Rubber]

So as I was research MPC figures, I came across this seller with a bunch of them, and another vintage figures. They have a few plesiosaur, Ichthyosaurus, mosasaur, and Woolly Mammoth figures stated to be from Diener Industries. Are these from that company, and not related to their line of erasers?

For what it's worth, I recognise this seller from another platform and they were very helpful, their other website was full of detailed information on all the figures. That said, I recognise these as Panini prehistoric animal originals and not Deiner. As erasers, Deiner are much denser shapes.

[Fossilized-Rubber]

Does anyone recognise this yellow dimetrodon? It was on an ebay auction.

[Ankyloranodon]

So as I was research MPC figures, I came across this seller with a bunch of them, and another vintage figures. They have a few plesiosaur, Ichthyosaurus, mosasaur, and Woolly Mammoth figures stated to be from Diener Industries. Are these from that company, and not related to their line of erasers?

For what it's worth, I recognise this seller from another platform and they were very helpful, their other website was full of detailed information on all the figures. That said, I recognise these as Panini prehistoric animal originals and not Deiner. As erasers, Deiner are much denser shapes.

The confusion may come from them also being subsequently ripped off as eraser designs (unless Panini just marks them as "China") as I owned an unpainted eraser instead of plastic version of that mammoth and found it and the mosasaur here (third set of pics): https://smallscaleworld.blogspot.com/2019/02/r-is-for-return-to-chinasaur-dinorasers.html

[Faelrin]

@Fossilized-Rubber @Ankyloranodon Thanks for the information from the both of you. So it seems the originals are Panini (at least the marine reptiles, not sure about the mammoth though, it appears different from the one on toyanimalwiki, unless it had multiple molds for this species), but there may be recasts or knockoffs of the original molds in other formats?

Toyanimalwiki mentions this for the Panini figures, which I suppose can complicate attempting to identify them:

These figures are marked with animal name and a number. Figures were sold together with stickers and they were sold in several countries in different years. The oldest reference known is from 1974 from a stickerbook called ANIMALI PREHISTORICI (Panini). Panini sold them at least in two different shading version but these moulds are known from several other series and companies showing a remarkable color variation, slight difference in sizes and material. The numbering here presented is known from Panini and figures from other sources may be marked differently.

[Duna]

@Faelrin Most of them are versions or probably same molds as the vintage Panini (in Spain they came in Tombola chocolate eggs) but Paninis are very very soft, numbered from 1 to 24 and not painted shiny or glossy, the name of the species was also printed on the belly. But they were molded a lot more and these "reissues" don't have the name on the belly.

The dimetrodon looks like it was lightly inspired in Ajax small dinos.

[Faelrin]

@Fossilized-Rubber By the way that yellow Dimetrodon you posted kind of resembles this one (just as I was about to post @Duna beat me to the punch lol):

https://toyanimalwiki.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Ajax_-_Joy_Toy_Dimetrodon



@Duna Thanks for that information. That will definitely make identifying them easier in the future (as originals vs recasts go).

[Mellow Stego]

Hey everyone, I was watching an episode of Car Thottle on youtube, (it's a British car channel) where in this episode they went into the giftshop of Lands End and that's where I saw this Stegosaurus.







Any idea what it is?

[Libraraptor]

I am not 100% certain, but it could be Bullyland Soft Play Stegosaurus.

[Blackdanter]

@Blackdanter I recognise this from a post of "thins" on the dinotoyblog. From what I remember it was labelled as shreddies. You're right about it not being from the initial run of shreddies, but it certainly looks similar.

http://cerealoffers.com/Cereal_Partners/Shreddies/1950s/1/1.html

https://dinotoyforum.proboards.com/thread/3793/shreddies-flat-dinosaurs-60s

They're also sometimes listed as Nabisco / Lipton Ice Tea premiums.

I hope this helps. Standard "not an expert disclaimer".

Thanks.

[Fossilized-Rubber]

I can tell you for certain that these are knockoff sculpts of the safari ltd baby dinosaurs. Unfortunately I don't know who the sculptor is because while they are based on the safari figures, they're considerably smaller than even the Toob models (I own the Parasaurolophus and it is absolutely miniscule) and the sculpts are ever so slightly unique. I do however know that these were distributed for gumball machines and came in little capsules.

On my recent trip to America I managed to get the baby toob dinosaurs by Safari ltd and got some side-by-side photographs. I can confirm they're similar but not the same, with the smaller ones having much more striking lines and slight tweaks to posture. I'll post the images soon.

[crazy8wizard]

On my recent trip to America I managed to get the baby toob dinosaurs by Safari ltd and got some side-by-side photographs. I can confirm they're similar but not the same, with the smaller ones having much more striking lines and slight tweaks to posture. I'll post the images soon.

They aren't knockoffs that use the same molds. They're original sculpts based off of them. Also the baby models from the late 90s are slightly different from the baby dinos toob anyways

[Fossilized-Rubber]

They aren't knockoffs that use the same molds. They're original sculpts based off of them. Also the baby models from the late 90s are slightly different from the baby dinos toob anyways

Hold on, there are baby models from the late 90s? Do you have pics of the full set?

[Faelrin]

@Fossilized-Rubber Toyanimalwiki has images of them:

https://toyanimalwiki.mywikis.wiki/wiki/Wild_Safari_Dinos_%26_Prehistoric_Life