PNSO - 2025 Hopes and Dreams

[thomasw100]

I have no information, but I wonder if a slowdown in new figures could be connected to keeping so many of the older figures available. They may need to bet on whether a new model like Gigantoraptor would sell more than a repeat run of Parasaurolophus because they can't afford to do both.

Many older figures are apparently not available any more, see for example the official PNSO Amazon store. PNSO obviously needs to serve both their core customer base and potential new customers. For the former, they need to release new figures.

[Joel1905]

Oh dear... this has been a depressing read!

I might need to abandon my PNSO wishlist if they are indeed winding down and being forced out of the market!

I just wish they'd give us a lipped Tyrannosaurus Rex and more of the Walking with Dinosaurs/Jurassic Park roster before they potentially leave the figure market

[thomasw100]

Oh dear... this has been a depressing read!

I might need to abandon my PNSO wishlist if they are indeed winding down and being forced out of the market!

I just wish they'd give us a lipped Tyrannosaurus Rex and more of the Walking with Dinosaurs/Jurassic Park roster before they potentially leave the figure market

I would think that PNSO will probably readjust their strategy. They may focus more on direct collaboration with scientists like they did with the Lokiceratops. This received a lot of praise and such a model could be sold in good numbers in the museum shop where the fossil is located.

Zhao Chuang and Yang Yang seem to have a clear long term vision and everything that PNSO has done so far has clearly demonstrated that they are fairly independent and are going for their vision. So I doubt that they would give up too easily.

[Joel1905]

Oh dear... this has been a depressing read!

I might need to abandon my PNSO wishlist if they are indeed winding down and being forced out of the market!

I just wish they'd give us a lipped Tyrannosaurus Rex and more of the Walking with Dinosaurs/Jurassic Park roster before they potentially leave the figure market

I would think that PNSO will probably readjust their strategy. They may focus more on direct collaboration with scientists like they did with the Lokiceratops. This received a lot of praise and such a model could be sold in good numbers in the museum shop where the fossil is located.

Zhao Chuang and Yang Yang seem to have a clear long term vision and everything that PNSO has done so far has clearly demonstrated that they are fairly independent and are going for their vision. So I doubt that they would give up too easily.

I hope you're right! PNSO are my favourite company and I'd be devastated if they stopped! Especially as so many of my favourite Dinosaurs need updates or lack figures at all!

[thomasw100]

I hope you're right! PNSO are my favourite company and I'd be devastated if they stopped! Especially as so many of my favourite Dinosaurs need updates or lack figures at all!

I fully agree with your view on PNSO. The quality of their figures is still at the top. I like the large sauropods from Haolonggood and I am very happy that they took the risk and made these, but if we think of for example getting something like an Apatosaurus or Brachiosaurus in 1:35 from PNSO I am sure this would be really something. One can imagine this from how beautiful their Alamosaurus and Camarasaurus are.

One issue here is of course that many people were constantly complaining about the price of PNSO models and then went on how Haolonggood would be so much cheaper. But this discussion largely ignored the difference in quality, not least production quality. PNSO figures very rarely have noticeable paint defects or molding issues.

[Turkeysaurus]

Absence of PNSO would be KT event for my collection. Haolonggood is great but PNSO is still the GOAT of scientifically accurate high quality dinosaur models.

[Joel1905]

It's not looking good, people.

Having hopes & dreams for PNSO may be futile.

[crazy8wizard]

Is there any actual evidence that PNSO is in any sort of trouble aside from the fact that they haven't released a figure in a couple months?

[Flaffy]

It's not looking good, people.

Having hopes & dreams for PNSO may be futile.

I'm finding the persistent doomposting quite repetetive and unproductive.

[Pinbacker]

Is there any actual evidence that PNSO is in any sort of trouble aside from the fact that they haven't released a figure?

No, no evidence whatsoever. I think people are being a little over-dramatic.

[SRF]

Is there any actual evidence that PNSO is in any sort of trouble aside from the fact that they haven't released a figure?

No, no evidence whatsoever. I think people are being a little over-dramatic.

Make that very over-dramatic.

Like I posted in the PNSO new for 2024 thread I really see no reason to panic over the fact that PNSO is focussing on other projects besides releasing new figures.

[Eatmycar]

The doomposting is uninformed and, frankly, dramatic.

PNSO is not a toy company. They're an education company that happens to produce a lot of things. Some of those things are models. If you bothered to check their website, you'd notice they do post news about things they're working on. They just announced a Dinosaur-a-Day calendar for 2025 for Chinese consumers here, and a few pop-up books for the Japanese market here.

So, they are busy. They aren't dead. They aren't 'worrying' about Haollonggood either I imagine since they work on so much stuff. I'd recommend reading what they're actually doing on their website as opposed to sitting in darkness imagining they're dead.

http://www.pnso.org/?page_id=375

Outside of one part of the Darwin section (dinosaur models), they frankly seem like they have their hands full. They'll make more figures. Just not yet.

[SidB]

Thanks for the reminder of the 'big picture', E @Eatmycar .

[Halichoeres]

I'm confident they'll release some figures in 2025. I'd like some of them to be prehistoric life other than dinosaurs. At least 2024 was a lot better than the previous two years in hitting several different major clades of dinosaurs.

[SpartanSquat]

They will release but not constantly. I think this also help the collectors for space and let breath the wallet. Lets be honest, the rythm pnso and haolongood did its not good for our wallets. The thing is: Do you think haolongood could do this constant releases?

[KrazyKaprosuchus]

I too would like more non-dinosaur figures. Triassic species especially are always at the top of my list.

[thomasw100]

They will release but not constantly. I think this also help the collectors for space and let breath the wallet. Lets be honest, the rythm pnso and haolongood did its not good for our wallets. The thing is: Do you think haolongood could do this constant releases?

Haolonggood could probably do this for a while but this will eventually result in sales figures dropping. Especially with the high frequency of releasing these rather expensive large sauropods. Counting the Brachiosaurus, they released like 5 large sauropods in a bit more than a year, which at current price levels cost about 630 USD in total without shipping costs (I assumed that the Brachiosaurus will cost the same as the Alamosaurus). This is more than a full year worth of PNSO figures.

[Joel1905]

I'm going to remain skeptical until proved otherwise by a new figure, but I'm not holding out much hope.

It'll be interesting to see what this thread looks like in the summer.

We already know for a fact that there's going to be nothing until March at the earliest.

[SRF]

We already know for a fact that there's going to be nothing until March at the earliest.

That's not a bad thing. And if PNSO chooses only to release a figure every two or three months after that for the rest of 2025, that's also fine by me.

[Joel1905]

We already know for a fact that there's going to be nothing until March at the earliest.

That's not a bad thing. And if PNSO chooses only to release a figure every two or three months after that for the rest of 2025, that's also fine by me.

I respectfully disagree. I much prefer the old monthly releases as a collector and hobbyist.

Four or five figures in a whole year doesn't scratch that itch, especially when so many of my favourite dinosaurs don't have figure representation or need updates.

I've always been an ardent opponent of "less is more" in this context 😂