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PRIMITIVE WAR

Started by dragon53, March 29, 2024, 03:01:42 PM

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Blade-of-the-Moon

I wish some film would go back and do retro dinosaurs, big old lumbering sauropods and tail dragging tyrannosaurs..they fit these steamy jungles and swamp films so well.


dragon53

BLADE-OF-THE-MOON:

If someone made a movie with retro dinosaurs, they would incur the wrath of dinosaur fans wanting to complain about the scientific inaccuracies.

If you want to see a really inaccurate dinosaur movie, watch THE LOST WORLD with Michael Rennie, David Hedison, Jill St. John and Claude Rains.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: dragon53 on April 04, 2025, 05:28:53 AMBLADE-OF-THE-MOON:

If someone made a movie with retro dinosaurs, they would incur the wrath of dinosaur fans wanting to complain about the scientific inaccuracies.

If you want to see a really inaccurate dinosaur movie, watch THE LOST WORLD with Michael Rennie, David Hedison, Jill St. John and Claude Rains.

Not if it was intentional I don't think so. The problem I see is most claim to be accurate and aren't even though true accuracy is impossible. Like these sort of movies they just don't put in enough effort. It should have made it's own dinosaur designs, something marketable instead they fell back on JP/JW clones..pun intended ;)


I've seen that one several times, I do prefer the original silent film though. I even like the John Ryhs Davies as Challenger ones.

Over9K

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Quote from: dragon53 on April 04, 2025, 05:28:53 AMBLADE-OF-THE-MOON:

If someone made a movie with retro dinosaurs, they would incur the wrath of dinosaur fans wanting to complain about the scientific inaccuracies.

If you want to see a really inaccurate dinosaur movie, watch THE LOST WORLD with Michael Rennie, David Hedison, Jill St. John and Claude Rains.

NO...  my only weakness, someone mentioning Michael Rennie and Claude Rains in the same sentence... must... resist...... urge.... to ..... sing....

"Michael Rennie was ill The Day The Earth Stood Still,
But he told us where we stand.
And Flash Gordon was there in silver underwear,
Claude Rains was The Invisible Man,
Then something went wrong, for Fay Wray and King Kong,
They got caught in a celluloid jam,
Then at a deadly pace, It Came From Outer Space,
And this is how the message ran..."





Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Over9K on April 04, 2025, 06:09:32 AM
Quote from: dragon53 on April 04, 2025, 05:28:53 AMBLADE-OF-THE-MOON:

If someone made a movie with retro dinosaurs, they would incur the wrath of dinosaur fans wanting to complain about the scientific inaccuracies.

If you want to see a really inaccurate dinosaur movie, watch THE LOST WORLD with Michael Rennie, David Hedison, Jill St. John and Claude Rains.

NO...  my only weakness, someone mentioning Michael Rennie and Claude Rains in the same sentence... must... resist...... urge.... to ..... sing....

"Michael Rennie was ill The Day The Earth Stood Still,
But he told us where we stand.
And Flash Gordon was there in silver underwear,
Claude Rains was The Invisible Man,
Then something went wrong, for Fay Wray and King Kong,
They got caught in a celluloid jam,
Then at a deadly pace, It Came From Outer Space,
And this is how the message ran..."






"Science Fiction..double feature.."

Love it!  :))

JohannesB

#25
A pity about the "dinosaurs", because I would have loved to finally watch a real gritty horror dinosaur movie where people are hunted and killed by realistic dinosaurs and Azhdarchids.

stargatedalek

AI was, as far as I've been told, not used in creating the designs or effects of the movie, but was used as placeholder and reference art in early drafts and design phases.

Not that I'm in support of AI, but that's probably one of the least egregious ways to use it if you ask me.

I'm also fairly certain the "spinosaur" is meant to be a Kaprosuchus?
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Over9K

Quote from: stargatedalek on April 08, 2025, 03:35:08 AMAI was, as far as I've been told, not used in creating the designs or effects of the movie, but was used as placeholder and reference art in early drafts and design phases.

Not that I'm in support of AI, but that's probably one of the least egregious ways to use it if you ask me.

I'm also fairly certain the "spinosaur" is meant to be a Kaprosuchus?

I'm hoping this is true.

I would go as far as saying that placeholder/reference is an appropriate use of AI art in film production, provided the actual production art is made by a living artist. Let's face it, movie production is ridiculously expensive and saving a little bit of money in pre-production could benefit the final product.

I will say that I am dreading the "crap age" of AI, given that we are currently living in the 4th decade of crap CGI, and combining the two will likely fill the uncanny valley with an ocean of garbage.


GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: stargatedalek on April 08, 2025, 03:35:08 AMAI was, as far as I've been told, not used in creating the designs or effects of the movie, but was used as placeholder and reference art in early drafts and design phases.

Not that I'm in support of AI, but that's probably one of the least egregious ways to use it if you ask me.

I'm also fairly certain the "spinosaur" is meant to be a Kaprosuchus?
Any potential AI art usage in making the film is a far less egregious sin than having Jeremy Piven on the cast
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DavidJamesArmsby

Quote from: stargatedalek on April 08, 2025, 03:35:08 AMAI was, as far as I've been told, not used in creating the designs or effects of the movie, but was used as placeholder and reference art in early drafts and design phases.
I still cannot get behind this, or any use of AI "art". The early art stages are the most important part of the creative process. It's the literal foundation of your ideas, and If those ideas are AI generated, they aren't your ideas.
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Dilopho

The dinosaurs look really good to me, as far as movie designs go.

There's some heavily JP inspired ones there but none of them look poorly done IMO.

Einherjar

I liked it.

But is ripping other designs like that even legal? That apatosaurus looks ripped from JW.

The rex is just heavily inspired, but still disappointing since it's so JP-ish.

Raptors look great though.


Now I just have to prepare for Jason Stackhouse with a serious face.


Gwangi

Quote from: Einherjar on July 26, 2025, 12:00:04 AMI liked it.

But is ripping other designs like that even legal? That apatosaurus looks ripped from JW.

The rex is just heavily inspired, but still disappointing since it's so JP-ish.

Raptors look great though.


Now I just have to prepare for Jason Stackhouse with a serious face.

Movies have been ripping off JP designs since 1993.  ::D

Torvosaurus

Quote from: dragon53 on April 04, 2025, 05:28:53 AMBLADE-OF-THE-MOON:

If someone made a movie with retro dinosaurs, they would incur the wrath of dinosaur fans wanting to complain about the scientific inaccuracies.

If you want to see a really inaccurate dinosaur movie, watch THE LOST WORLD with Michael Rennie, David Hedison, Jill St. John and Claude Rains.

Or "The Land that Time Forgot" and its sequel, "The People that Time Forgot". If I remember correctly, the theropods were people in suits that looked like the Halloween t-rex costumes for kids. 😀

Torvo
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SpartanSquat

Sorry but I dont like the movie designs, looks like they rippeed Jurassic Park and Jurassic World designs despite the movie has a bestiary book very detailed of how the creatures look. Going to the JP/JW route was the easy way...and specially how the creator of the saga hated JW these years and how these ended.
Despite you love or hate rebirth, at least they tried something different with t-rex, quetzal, titano and mosa.
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Ambre

I think most of the designs are good, the only 2 i would say are jp ripoffs are the rex and sauropod but the rest look pretty good.
I hope the movie is good and does well im kinda tired of the jurassic franchise having a monopoly on dinosaurs

Over9K

#37
Anyone remember those old ads for Frosted Mini Wheats, where like an adult is like "I like Frosted Mini Wheats for the dietary fiber" and then it smash cuts to a kid, wearing the adult's clothes and the kid is like "I like Frosted Mini Wheats because SUGAR, man."

That is totally how I feel about this movie.

The adult in me is like "*sigh* Schlock."
The kid in me is like "AWWWW HELLZ YEAH!! DINOSCHLOCK!!11!"

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Torvosaurus

They had me at the feathered raptors.

Torvo
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