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Haolonggood - New for 2025

Started by Halichoeres, January 03, 2025, 09:22:18 PM

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Joel1905

Quote from: ceratopsian on June 29, 2025, 09:41:17 AMIndeed.  The absence of small dinosaurs is  the downside of following their customers' insistence that models must all be in the same scale. (Of course a single consistent scale might also be the firms' own preference.)

Quote from: Joel1905 on June 29, 2025, 08:38:32 AM
Quote from: Sim on June 29, 2025, 01:07:12 AM........

I'm not expecting Haolonggood to ever make dromaeosaurids.  I think Haolonggood, like PNSO, is afraid of making accurate dromaeosaurids.  It's not nice that these two companies don't want to make dromaeosaurids, and that prevents them from being my favourite company.  PNSO is still my second-favourite prehistoric figure company though due to figures like the Stegosaurus, Baryonyx and Suchomimus by them.  Haolonggood hasn't made something that appeals to me enough to make them one of my favourite companies.  A good dromaeosaurid or several by them would change that immediately.  Same for a Torvosaurus tanneri or Tuojiangosaurus.

It's nothing to do with being 'afraid of making accurate dromaeosaurids'. It's because they like to stick close to the 1:35 scale and dromaeosaur figures in that scale would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective.


Yep, this is why I get my 1:35 figures of smaller dinosaurs from independent artists like PS Artworks.


thomasw100

More in hand pictures of Shantungosaurus from Paleofiguras.






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Sim

Quote from: thomasw100 on June 29, 2025, 07:37:23 AMI do not think that PNSO is afraid of making dromaeosaurids. Why should they? Their Instagram calendar is constantly flooded with paleoart depicting dromaeosaurids and they have a track record of making excellent feathered dinosaurs like Therizinosaurus and Deinocheirus. I think this has more to do with what they consider to have good market potential.
Why wouldn't dromaeosaurid figures have good market potential?  They are one of the most popular groups of dinosaurs and fans keep asking for them.  I think PNSO is afraid of making them as there seems to be a general resistance to making feathered versions of them, presumably due to how the Jurassic World films continue to portray them.  Notice also how in their series of minis there wasn't even one dromaeosaurid.

Quote from: Joel1905 on June 29, 2025, 08:38:32 AMIt's nothing to do with being 'afraid of making accurate dromaeosaurids'. It's because they like to stick close to the 1:35 scale and dromaeosaur figures in that scale would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective.
It's not true dromaeosaurid figures in 1:35 "would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective."  The largest species such as Utahraptor and Austroraptor would be around the size of figures PNSO has already made, and larger than some such as Pachycephalosaurus.  And if they were made in a larger scale like PNSO does sometimes they would be even larger.

Coming back to Haolonggood, again the largest dromaeosaurid species would be even larger than some species they've made such as Chasmosaurus.  So I do believe Haolonggood is afraid of making dromaeosaurids.

thomasw100

Quote from: Sim on June 29, 2025, 12:14:17 PMWhy wouldn't dromaeosaurid figures have good market potential?  They are one of the most popular groups of dinosaurs and fans keep asking for them.  I think PNSO is afraid of making them as there seems to be a general resistance to making feathered versions of them, presumably due to how the Jurassic World films continue to portray them.  Notice also how in their series of minis there wasn't even one dromaeosaurid.

Quote from: Joel1905 on June 29, 2025, 08:38:32 AMIt's nothing to do with being 'afraid of making accurate dromaeosaurids'. It's because they like to stick close to the 1:35 scale and dromaeosaur figures in that scale would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective.
It's not true dromaeosaurid figures in 1:35 "would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective."  The largest species such as Utahraptor and Austroraptor would be around the size of figures PNSO has already made, and larger than some such as Pachycephalosaurus.  And if they were made in a larger scale like PNSO does sometimes they would be even larger.

Coming back to Haolonggood, again the largest dromaeosaurid species would be even larger than some species they've made such as Chasmosaurus.  So I do believe Haolonggood is afraid of making dromaeosaurids.


I said "what they consider to have good market potential" referring to the potential assessment of PNSO only. I did not say that dromaeosaurids would not have good market potential. Please pay a bit more attention to these differences.

I actually believe that top quality figures of dromaeosaurids would be picked up by the market quite nicely, but this is my personal opinion and I do not have the data and information at hand that a leading company like PNSO has. I would buy a PNSO Utahraptor or Austroraptor in a heartbeat, though I mostly focus my collection on herbivores.

SidB

Another consideration in their favor is that PNSO has made a number of figures that are closer to 1/25 than to 1/35, particularly the ever popular ceratopsians, so some dromeosaurids wouldn't be much of a stretch at 1/25, IMO.

Joel1905

Quote from: Sim on June 29, 2025, 12:14:17 PM
Quote from: thomasw100 on June 29, 2025, 07:37:23 AMI do not think that PNSO is afraid of making dromaeosaurids. Why should they? Their Instagram calendar is constantly flooded with paleoart depicting dromaeosaurids and they have a track record of making excellent feathered dinosaurs like Therizinosaurus and Deinocheirus. I think this has more to do with what they consider to have good market potential.
Why wouldn't dromaeosaurid figures have good market potential?  They are one of the most popular groups of dinosaurs and fans keep asking for them.  I think PNSO is afraid of making them as there seems to be a general resistance to making feathered versions of them, presumably due to how the Jurassic World films continue to portray them.  Notice also how in their series of minis there wasn't even one dromaeosaurid.

Quote from: Joel1905 on June 29, 2025, 08:38:32 AMIt's nothing to do with being 'afraid of making accurate dromaeosaurids'. It's because they like to stick close to the 1:35 scale and dromaeosaur figures in that scale would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective.
It's not true dromaeosaurid figures in 1:35 "would be very small and therefore deemed not cost effective."  The largest species such as Utahraptor and Austroraptor would be around the size of figures PNSO has already made, and larger than some such as Pachycephalosaurus.  And if they were made in a larger scale like PNSO does sometimes they would be even larger.

Coming back to Haolonggood, again the largest dromaeosaurid species would be even larger than some species they've made such as Chasmosaurus.  So I do believe Haolonggood is afraid of making dromaeosaurids.

Where's the proof that they're 'afraid' though? Choosing not to, or not having plans to, isn't the same as being 'afraid'.

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Sim

This isn't about proving, it's about what one thinks is the reason these companies aren't making dromaeosaurids.  It seems likely to me that PNSO and Haolonggood think that if they make dromaeosaurids they wouldn't be received well enough.  There isn't another reason, as far as I can think, size having been shown to not be the reason.

DavidJamesArmsby

Quote from: Sim on June 29, 2025, 07:17:59 PMThis isn't about proving, it's about what one thinks is the reason these companies aren't making dromaeosaurids.  It seems likely to me that PNSO and Haolonggood think that if they make dromaeosaurids they wouldn't be received well enough.  There isn't another reason, as far as I can think, size having been shown to not be the reason.
I dunno, dude. I think it's definitely to do with size. Haolonggood has made a ton of species that are bigger sales risks than Velociraptor. There's no way their Tlatolophus sold as well as a Velociraptor would. Velociraptor is one of the most famous dinosaurs now thanks to the JP movies and while every company seems to have a T. Rex, Triceratops, and Stegosaurus, few have a (non JP) Velociraptor. The few who do are the companies who don't concern themselves so much with scale (Safari, CollectA, ect).
The reason we don't get dromaeosaurs from PNSO or Haolonggood is 100% due to their frustratingly restrictive 1:25-1:40 scale range, which is a huge shame.

I do think we may get a species as big as Utahraptor one day but that's about it.

Sim

If it was just due to size, then why have PNSO and Haolonggood not made Utahraptor yet?  They've made smaller and less popular animals than it.

DavidJamesArmsby

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I can't tell you how and why they choose the species they do. No one can. But keep in mind that there're hundreds and hundreds of dinosaur species out there and Utahraptor just happens to be one of the hundreds of animals they haven't tackled yet.
It may come and it may not, but I certainly think it has a good chance considering its "cool" factor compared to other comparatively small dinosaurs.

I imagine if you made a list of all the dinosaur family groups these two companies tend to avoid the one thing they'll all have in common is small size, even if the largest of their families are big enough to do in 1:35. Ornithomimids come to mind.

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Sim

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on June 29, 2025, 08:31:25 PMI can't tell you how and why they choose the species they do. No one can. But keep in mind that there're hundreds and hundreds of dinosaur species out there and Utahraptor just happens to be one of the hundreds of animals they haven't tackled yet.
This is true and it's one way of looking at it which hadn't occurred to me.  However due to how popular and well-known by the public dromaeosaurids are, if a company doesn't make them I think there is something unusual occurring.  Size is definitely the reason for the small species when it comes to Haolonggood and PNSO, but I don't think it's the case for large species such as Utahraptor.  I don't believe these companies are oblivious to the popularity of dromaeosaurids and that they haven't made them.  So I have to conclude that it's a conscious decision to not make them.


Bergues

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Underside paint application reveals lot of white patches. I noticed same at Alamosaurus v2 but not for example at Brachiosaurus.

Haolonggood officially advises this is due to dry brushing and is intended ( answer I got for Alamosaurus v2).

I like Brachiosaurus paint application much more ( no white patches) and one could argue those white patches on Shantungosaurus or Alamosaurus v2 represent sloppiness / look unfinished.

Thoughts?

Edit: photos are from Paleofiguras


Sim

Thinking about it more, I think Haolonggood is my third-favourite prehistoric figure company, after Safari and PNSO.  Haolonggood has made a number of figures I like a lot such as the Stegosaurus, Chasmosaurus, Dilophosaurus, Carnotaurus, Amargasaurus...  I just wish Haolonggood and PNSO would make dromaeosaurids too!

Spinokaprogorgon

I think it's possible they at least make some bigger dromeaosaurids like utahraptor and austroraptor in the future
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thomasw100

It could well be that different companies have completely different reasons why they do not make certain dinosaurs.

Like PNSO may not make dromaeosaurids because of size considerations or because they have some longer term plan what they want to make and dromaeosaurids will just come later in that plan.

Conversely, Haolonggood may not make dromaeosaurids right now, because they may not have sufficient experience with sculpting feathers and people would compare whatever feathered dinosaur they make with the quality of PNSO Deinocheirus. They may also want to capitalize a bit on the success of their large sauropods.

Halichoeres

There is a lot to recommend this figure, but that head is very off-putting. When I first heard rumors of a HLG Shantungosaurus I was almost certain I would buy it, but now I'm thinking I'll hold off and see what the Boundless World one will look like.
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I really love the green. You can tell it is a HLG model, but the paint scheme is more simplistic which is what I like. I don't have the money for it right now but I'm sure I'll pick it up at some point when I make the space...

Torvosaurus

I'll tell you, there is a Brachiosaurus painted by the designer on Haolonggood's Amazon site that is really sharp, but I'm not liking the $335 price tag. I'm tempted, maybe.

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