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Sideshow- new for 2015

Started by Manatee, October 20, 2014, 09:23:11 PM

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Manatee

Sideshow is releasing repaints of the Apatosaurus, Stegosaurus, Styracosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Camarasaurus vs. Allosaurus maquettes and a new Trike and Tyrannosaurus for 2015; they are available for preorder already on Dan's Dinosaurs or from the Sideshow site. However, they arrive in January 2015 and are labelled as 2015 releases, so they officially count as such. Without further ado, here they are:









tyrantqueen

We already have a thread for this, where it's been discussed at length. See here: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=159.msg74221#msg74221

Meso-Cenozoic

Yes, but these are only the specific 2015 repaints. Right? I found it beneficial having them together here in the New for 2015 post.

juju1305

Quote from: Manatee on October 20, 2014, 09:23:11 PM
Sideshow is releasing repaints of the Apatosaurus, Stegosaurus, Styracosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Camarasaurus vs. Allosaurus maquettes for 2015; they are available for preorder already on Dan's Dinosaurs or from the Sideshow site. However, they arrive in January 2015 and are labelled as 2015 releases, so they officially count as such. Without further ado, here they are:



WANT.
NEED.
MUST HAVE.

I'm gonna go for at least 2 of these. Hard to choose...
The apato is a must have, it's so much nicer than the original one.


Blade-of-the-Moon

Without being too much of a nay-sayer..I'm still crossing my fingers to see what the actual paint apps will look like. That is where Sideshow has failed this line in the past on several occasions and now the paint has to carry these re-releases. It's going to be tough I fear.

suspsy

The head on that T. rex looks way too small.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

stargatedalek

its wrists are also broken
but I don't think accuracy is exactly something sideshow sets as a goal
Trans rights are human rights.


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DinoLord

The wrists might not be pronated; it's too hard to tell from the angle. The head is on the smaller side, but different T. rex individuals do show slightly different proportions.

Manatee

Quote from: DinoLord on October 30, 2014, 10:58:49 PM
The wrists might not be pronated; it's too hard to tell from the angle. The head is on the smaller side, but different T. rex individuals do show slightly different proportions.
The wrists are certainly pronated.

tyrantqueen

#9
Quote from: stargatedalek on October 30, 2014, 10:50:33 PM
its wrists are also broken
but I don't think accuracy is exactly something sideshow sets as a goal
Actually it is, and it's one of the line's selling points. They hire artists like Jorge Blanco and David Krentz who clearly know their dinosaur anatomy. It's certainly something we've come to expect from the line, when the statues are $200+ a pop. Btw, the wrists are NOT broken (pronated)



:)

stargatedalek

Thanks for the better picture, it was just the angle
Trans rights are human rights.


Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: DinoLord on October 30, 2014, 10:58:49 PM
The wrists might not be pronated; it's too hard to tell from the angle. The head is on the smaller side, but different T. rex individuals do show slightly different proportions.

Exactly, talking to Jorge this piece is based more on SUE who doesn't have the HUGE head STAN does. The really nice thick and robust tail also makes the front end look smaller overall..but that is also correct. It balances the front half of the animal and those huge thigh muscles attach there. This is actually the most realistic and accurate T-REX to date.  Yes, yes I know..no feathers...but that still has not been proven as 100% fact..so this would be the most " factually accurate " T-REX. ;)

Appalachiosaurus

#12
Well, time to voice my opinions:
Apatosaurus
Probably the best sauropod model money can buy, but I prefer the original.

Stegosaurus
Absolutely Beautiful, the best one here!

Styracosaurus
No quills and no keratin, but at least the colors are nice.

Carnotaurus
Dynamic and beautiful, love the colors on this one.

Allosaurus vs. Camarosaurus
I like the Allosaurus' colors, but I prefer the original Camarosaurus colors. If only I could have both...

Triceratops
No keratin and ostioderms instead of quills. Also, the hands are pronated. Colors are drab and boring. Probably my least favorite.

T. rex
Beautifully accurate, but the pronated hands and lack of feathers bug me. Could be better.


tyrantqueen

#13
Like I just said...the hands on the Tyrannosaurus are NOT pronated. See here:



Also, the Styracosaurus and the Triceratops should not be criticised for lacking quills because we don't necessarily know for certain that they were found in those species. No quill impressions were found for either of them. The only reason people depict Trikes with quills is because Psittacosaurus possessed them :)

Gwangi

Yes, the whole quilled ceratopsian thing is getting tiresome in my opinion. There is zero evidence of quills in any member of Ceratopsidae. Only one specimen of Psittacosaurus has preserved such structures and although related, Psittacosaurus is pretty far removed from the more advanced Ceratopsidae. Never mind that 35 million years and many evolutionary offshoots separate Psittacosaurus from Triceratops. Now I'm not ruling out quills for ceratopsians entirely, just putting it out there that it is more speculation than fact. A model is not inaccurate for omitting them. Even if ceratopsians had them, I doubt they were in the same exact arrangement as that of Psittacosaurus as CollectA and Kaiyodo like to depict them.

As for the Sideshow re-paints, I think in every case aside from Stegosaurus I prefer the original paint job but I would have to look at them side-by-side. That said, I don't collect Sideshow. My cat would love to knock that Apatosaurus off a shelf and completely ruin my life.

amargasaurus cazaui

aha I heard the bell that announced my turn to chip in here...someone said Psittacosaurus ! I am going to elaborate a bit on both Gwangis and Tyranntqueens comment just a tad ...........We have quills for Tianyulong...a species of heterodontosaurid ornithischian dinosaur, that might be a prime suspect as one of the species that was primary to the onset of the ceratopsian family. Sadly the science just is not there to firmly establish this fact , we need more fossils that help bridge the gap and help us understand at what point the family jumped from heterodontosaurid to ceratopsian.Moving along the ceratopsian family tree we enouncter psittacosaurus with its one quilled specimen. It is possible perhaps even likely all psittacosaurus might have had quills as shown by this fossil. However and this is some of the hard fact missing from both Tyranntqueen and Gwangi's comments that needs pointing out. Psittacosaurus had evolved out the fenestrae between the eye orbit and nasal entirely. However more derived ceratopsians like Triceratops and Styracosaurus would retain this feature. Continuing , psittacosaurus had only four digits on manus and feet...whereas more derived ceratopsians retained the basal state of five. Since it would seem unlikely although not impossible that psitacosaurus evolved away from these traits and would not then  subsequently re-invent them, that psittacosaurs was an evolutionary dead end that went precisely nowhere in the ceratopsian family tree and was no more than a distant cousin to more derived species. The only further justification one might have for adding quills to Triceratops might be the specimen known as Lane..which had scale impressions with raised centers, that some speculate might have been quills, however it would seem very unlikely given the shape and design, and even then, it is at best speculation with no solid proof for such an idea.
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


Appalachiosaurus

Quote from: tyrantqueen on October 31, 2014, 04:42:53 PM
Also, the Styracosaurus and the Triceratops should not be criticised for lacking quills because we don't necessarily know for certain that they were found in those species.

You are correct. I wasn't necessarily calling out inaccuracies, just voicing how I felt about the statues. I just like quills. :P

DinoLord

Does Sideshow generally announce new sculpts at a certain time of year? The new mosasaur is nice and all, but I'm waiting on some more sauropod maquettes!

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: DinoLord on December 18, 2014, 01:33:02 AM
Does Sideshow generally announce new sculpts at a certain time of year? The new mosasaur is nice and all, but I'm waiting on some more sauropod maquettes!

I tried once to figure out their release schedule..basically no they don't have one. A teaser, special piece, can be shown any time during the year or even put up for sale like the Ankylosaur and pterosaur pieces.

I would guess we'll hear more next year about upcoming pieces..I think a new raptor of some sort was next on the list last I heard.  A big sauropod would be really cool, Brachiosaurus or Diplodocus would be awesome. I suspect Amargasaurus would be likely as well.

DinoLord

I guess I will just have to be patient then.  :-\

Especially with the big pieces, Sideshows are actually a great value despite their expensive reputation. Buying a resin kit of similar size and having it built up/shipped ends up costing around the same amount if not more.

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