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PNSO New for 2025

Started by Renecito, March 01, 2025, 08:44:28 AM

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SRF

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 17, 2025, 01:07:19 PMPNSO have posted drawings of an updated Corythosaurus several times. Same colours and patterns as Caroline, but much chunkier and anatomically accurate.

However, we really do need some lipped theropods soon.

I wonder if we'll get an Easter figure?

Why? Will the world end if we don't?
But today, I'm just being father


Gwangi

Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 17, 2025, 02:41:36 AM
Quote from: suspsy on April 17, 2025, 02:15:25 AM
Quote from: Turkeysaurus on April 17, 2025, 01:51:10 AMI think PNSO only remakes most famous dinosaurs. T.rex, triceratops, stegosaurus , spinosaurus etc.

I think PNSO's hadrosaurs still hold up well enough that they don't need to be remade. Except for maybe the chronically unstable Corythosaurus.

...Olorotitan, Tsintaosaurus and Edmontosaurus, maybe. But Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus, the ones I mentioned, in particular? Those thin twigs with the individual toes and the giraffe paintjobs? They hold up?

Heck, Parasaurolophus is very good in comparison but even it was already slightly outdated upon release... Can probably skip remaking that one and have a Charonosaurus as a spiritual successor or something, though.

The paintjobs on those figures are some of PNSO's best, especially compared to all the brown-on-brown offerings. It was only FIVE YEARS AGO that the Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus were released. In the top ten poll for that year the Lambeosaurus took second place while the Corythosaurus took seventh. Why bother making new ones if we'll just need to replace them in another five years.  ::)

SidB

Quote from: Gwangi on April 17, 2025, 02:35:54 PM
Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 17, 2025, 02:41:36 AM
Quote from: suspsy on April 17, 2025, 02:15:25 AM
Quote from: Turkeysaurus on April 17, 2025, 01:51:10 AMI think PNSO only remakes most famous dinosaurs. T.rex, triceratops, stegosaurus , spinosaurus etc.

I think PNSO's hadrosaurs still hold up well enough that they don't need to be remade. Except for maybe the chronically unstable Corythosaurus.

...Olorotitan, Tsintaosaurus and Edmontosaurus, maybe. But Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus, the ones I mentioned, in particular? Those thin twigs with the individual toes and the giraffe paintjobs? They hold up?

Heck, Parasaurolophus is very good in comparison but even it was already slightly outdated upon release... Can probably skip remaking that one and have a Charonosaurus as a spiritual successor or something, though.

The paintjobs on those figures are some of PNSO's best, especially compared to all the brown-on-brown offerings. It was only FIVE YEARS AGO that the Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus were released. In the top ten poll for that year the Lambeosaurus took second place while the Corythosaurus took seventh. Why bother making new ones if we'll just need to replace them in another five years.  ::)
Good point, avatar_Gwangi @Gwangi . Let's move on and avoid the snare of perpetual dissatisfaction with what has been. Seems that what's coming down the road soon becomes obsolete anyways, within such a short time that one hardly gets a chance to enjoy it, if at all.
Having said this, IF PNSO were to release new a Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus (and I'm in no rush whatsoever for this), I'd sure like them to be painted in something resembling the original ones. They were just smashing!

Baryonyx

Quote from: Gwangi on April 17, 2025, 02:35:54 PM
Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 17, 2025, 02:41:36 AM
Quote from: suspsy on April 17, 2025, 02:15:25 AM
Quote from: Turkeysaurus on April 17, 2025, 01:51:10 AMI think PNSO only remakes most famous dinosaurs. T.rex, triceratops, stegosaurus , spinosaurus etc.

I think PNSO's hadrosaurs still hold up well enough that they don't need to be remade. Except for maybe the chronically unstable Corythosaurus.

...Olorotitan, Tsintaosaurus and Edmontosaurus, maybe. But Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus, the ones I mentioned, in particular? Those thin twigs with the individual toes and the giraffe paintjobs? They hold up?

Heck, Parasaurolophus is very good in comparison but even it was already slightly outdated upon release... Can probably skip remaking that one and have a Charonosaurus as a spiritual successor or something, though.

The paintjobs on those figures are some of PNSO's best, especially compared to all the brown-on-brown offerings. It was only FIVE YEARS AGO that the Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus were released. In the top ten poll for that year the Lambeosaurus took second place while the Corythosaurus took seventh. Why bother making new ones if we'll just need to replace them in another five years.  ::)

Not to mention how poor the selection of available hardosaurs
was before they came out...

Joel1905

Quote from: SRF on April 17, 2025, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Joel1905 on April 17, 2025, 01:07:19 PMPNSO have posted drawings of an updated Corythosaurus several times. Same colours and patterns as Caroline, but much chunkier and anatomically accurate.

However, we really do need some lipped theropods soon.

I wonder if we'll get an Easter figure?

Why? Will the world end if we don't?


Weird comment.

For those of us who want our collections to be as accurate and up to date as possible, there's a shortage of lipped theropods, so yes, for the sake of having a nice, widely ranged collection, lipped theropods are indeed necessary.

Eatmycar

Sorry, but Caroline is not a good figure in 2025. The giant head and the fact that it'll tip over if you look at it? Nah, it could definitely do with a V2


Lambeosaurus, though, is nice.

Gwangi

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Quote from: Eatmycar on April 19, 2025, 06:51:48 PMSorry, but Caroline is not a good figure in 2025. The giant head and the fact that it'll tip over if you look at it? Nah, it could definitely do with a V2


Lambeosaurus, though, is nice.

All I'll say is that if it's not a good figure in 2025 then it wasn't a good figure in 2000. And PNSO and HLG still release toys with stability issues. This means the PNSO Lufengosaurus is not a good figure either.

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Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Doesn't the Lufengosaurus come with a standing rod for stability, tho? Meanwhile if I got a rod for Caroline, I wouldn't even know how to line it up

Joel1905

Quote from: Eatmycar on April 19, 2025, 06:51:48 PMSorry, but Caroline is not a good figure in 2025. The giant head and the fact that it'll tip over if you look at it? Nah, it could definitely do with a V2


Lambeosaurus, though, is nice.

I'd say BOTH Corythosaurus & Lambeosaurus would benefit from updates.

As much as I'd love new species like Gigantoraptor, Plateosaurus, Tarchia, Neovenator for example, I'd be really happy with new versions of their older Hadrosaurs & Theropods.

Joel1905

Quote from: Gwangi on April 19, 2025, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: Eatmycar on April 19, 2025, 06:51:48 PMSorry, but Caroline is not a good figure in 2025. The giant head and the fact that it'll tip over if you look at it? Nah, it could definitely do with a V2


Lambeosaurus, though, is nice.

All I'll say is that if it's not a good figure in 2025 then it wasn't a good figure in 2000. And PNSO and HLG still release toys with stability issues. This means the PNSO Lufengosaurus is not a good figure either.

That's rather hyperbolic. The Lufengosaurus is a wonderful figure.

Concavenator

I agree with E @Eatmycar .

Quote from: Gwangi on April 19, 2025, 08:34:19 PMAll I'll say is that if it's not a good figure in 2025 then it wasn't a good figure in 2000. And PNSO and HLG still release toys with stability issues. This means the PNSO Lufengosaurus is not a good figure either.

Well, PNSO could've released it with an adequately proportioned head and more robust body back in 2020 and people wouldn't be asking for a new version now.

And I think it's pointless to criticise PNSO for stability issues with their figures because they actually provide support rods with their figures. So if a figure doesn't stand unassisted, you can use the support rod they provided for you in order to solve that very issue. You're free not to use it if you wish, but then it's not fair to criticise them for "stability issues with their figures" when they're literally providing you with a physical solution included with the figure.

Also, what you mentioned with the Lufengosaurus example is not the same situation at all. The Lufengosaurus comes with a stand to solve any potential stability issues. The Corythosaurus doesn't, surely because being a quadruped it isn't expected to need it... but even despite being a quadruped, it still has stability issues, which proves that at least something is wrong with the figure.

In addition, AFAIK, the Lufengosaurus lacks known inaccuracies, thereby instantly making it a good representation of the creature it represents. The Corythosaurus however does have known inaccuracies, so whether it's a good representation or not it's up for individual appreciation.

Regardless of demand, a new Corythosaurus would certainly represent a bigger improvement over Caroline than the upcoming T. rex will over Cameron.

Granted, I'd rather they tackled new taxa too, but if they're gonna drop another prank release like the "Sinopliosaurus" (could name more) just for the sake of representing new species, then let them make a new Corythosaurus I'd say.

Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 19, 2025, 09:14:47 PMDoesn't the Lufengosaurus come with a standing rod for stability, tho?

It does indeed.

Quote from: SidB on April 17, 2025, 02:58:15 PMSeems that what's coming down the road soon becomes obsolete anyways, within such a short time that one hardly gets a chance to enjoy it, if at all.

The same could be said about Tyrannosaurus. Since 2020 we've had:

- 1 Corythosaurus.

And:

- Tyrannosaurus "Wilson" (2020).
- Tyrannosaurus "Andrea" (2021).
- Tyrannosaurus "Cameron" (2023).
- Yet another Tyrannosaurus which some people are craving for.

Seeing this, I don't think the issue lies exactly in a figure being released shortly after another!

Gwangi

Quote from: Joel1905 on April 19, 2025, 11:10:07 PM
Quote from: Gwangi on April 19, 2025, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: Eatmycar on April 19, 2025, 06:51:48 PMSorry, but Caroline is not a good figure in 2025. The giant head and the fact that it'll tip over if you look at it? Nah, it could definitely do with a V2


Lambeosaurus, though, is nice.

All I'll say is that if it's not a good figure in 2025 then it wasn't a good figure in 2000. And PNSO and HLG still release toys with stability issues. This means the PNSO Lufengosaurus is not a good figure either.

That's rather hyperbolic. The Lufengosaurus is a wonderful figure.

So is the Corythosaurus.  ;)

I don't judge figures on stability. So many of them warp and shift over time. I just adapt to it. In the case of Caroline, she leans against another figure. Is it ideal? No. But I would still rather get a genus from PNSO that they haven't made yet than a redo of a figure that while flawed, blew me away five years ago.

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Gwangi, you named yourself after a retro Theropod. I don't want to tell you which figures to like or not, but I feel like you just don't value the nuance of accurate/realistic-to-life Hadrosaurs enough to judge if "accuraccy update versions" for them are good ideas or not.  :*D
I didn't want to be rude to the figures, and insult peoples taste by proxy, but the current Lambeosaur and Corythosaur are strange, slender, alien freaks with oversized looking heads. They are beautiful in an alien way, sure. The production quality and paint job are great, even if balance issues for a quadrupedal figure are utterly ridiculous. But they really fail to capture Hadrosaurs as we presently think of them, and do not live up to modern PNSO standards.
And you can't seriously tell me that Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus aren't worthy of (re)inclusion when you consider PNSO's obsession with making at least one figure for every single Megatheropod under the sun.


Gwangi

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Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 20, 2025, 02:03:27 AMGwangi, you named yourself after a retro Theropod. I don't want to tell you which figures to like or not, but I feel like you just don't value the nuance of accurate/realistic-to-life Hadrosaurs enough to judge if "accuraccy update versions" for them are good ideas or not.  :*D
I didn't want to be rude to the figures, and insult peoples taste by proxy, but the current Lambeosaur and Corythosaur are strange, slender, alien freaks with oversized looking heads. They are beautiful in an alien way, sure. The production quality and paint job are great, even if balance issues for a quadrupedal figure are utterly ridiculous. But they really fail to capture Hadrosaurs as we presently think of them, and do not live up to modern PNSO standards.
And you can't seriously tell me that Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus aren't worthy of (re)inclusion when you consider PNSO's obsession with making at least one figure for every single Megatheropod under the sun.

Haha, touché!

I appreciate accurate dinosaurs and my collection is a mix of accurate and inaccurate, vintage figures and new, serious models by PNSO and fun toys by Mattel. But I've been around long enough to watch dinosaurs go from tail-dragging, swamp-bound, oversized lizards to the active stem-birds we have today. And I've been in this hobby long enough to watch once beloved (and accurate) models get dragged through the sand a mere five years later simply because something changed about how they looked. Caroline does not look alien to me because for the bulk of my life and until quite recently that is how hadrosaurs were reconstructed.

Y'all go ahead and keep pursuing perfection, but you'll never be satisfied. PNSO could announce a new Corythosaurus tomorrow that you'll all hail, but then a paper will drop that changes the orientation of its nostrils and you'll be asking for another one. I've already seen it. Dozens of Carnotaurus models to choose from but since the feature scales are in rows instead of random none of them are good enough anymore. That's a game I don't want to play, I would rather see new genera reproduced in plastic than replace the same ones over and over again. If accuracy was my chief concern I would only collect skeleton replicas and extant animal models. This trend of keeping up with the latest and greatest looks exhausting, and I have seen collectors burn out from it.

FerretGoose

#394
i loveeee the pnso corythosaurus so much omg. i've had it for like, 4 years and its easily top 3 all time faves in my collection. it still stands beautifully by itself, without any support. no warping yet hehe.

idk how to explain it, but that corythosaurus just looks alive, very full of motion. very kewl  ;D

Faelrin

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avatar_Gwangi @Gwangi I agree with you for the most part, but I specifically want a new Carnotaurus from PNSO because the science has updated our understanding on the skin, not because I don't think any of the previous models aren't good anymore. I still adore my Safari Carnotaurus and I still think it is one of the best on the market, but science marches on. As well as the Mattel FK and HC figures (although not the most scientifically informed) as far as action figures goes (plus the upcoming Cyberzoic one).

Also they've come a long way in sculpting the scales. Their previous Carnotaurus didn't even have accurately sculpted skin for what was thought at the time prior to the 2021 paper re-describing it.

Edit: I think the evolution of our current understanding of these ancient animals and the reconstructions of them is absolutely fascinating, especially when able to be presented side by side.
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Quote from: FerretGoose on April 20, 2025, 03:11:57 AMi loveeee the pnso corythosaurus so much omg. i've had it for like, 4 years and its easily top 3 all time faves in my collection. it still stands beautifully by itself, without any support. no warping yet hehe.

idk how to explain it, but that corythosaurus just looks alive, very full of motion. very kewl  ;D

Hear, hear!


Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Yeah, I suppose I am still in the phase of collecting where I am building up my main collection, so to speak, so I guess I am more ready to wait for potential better options for a genus - especially since I'll likely never have the budget to get every figure I might want  :*D

suspsy

I would have snapped up the Corythosaurus when it came out were it not for the price tag. Fingers crossed that Haolonggood or Safari or CollectA makes one.
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Gwangi

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Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 20, 2025, 11:49:42 AMYeah, I suppose I am still in the phase of collecting where I am building up my main collection, so to speak, so I guess I am more ready to wait for potential better options for a genus - especially since I'll likely never have the budget to get every figure I might want  :*D

I do that too. If I don't like a model I don't buy it just to have it in my collection. I skipped Baryonyx figures by Papo, Favorite, and CollectA waiting for something I liked more. And then Safari released one and I liked that one enough to buy it.

Quote from:  FaelrinI agree with you for the most part, but I specifically want a new Carnotaurus from PNSO because the science has updated our understanding on the skin, not because I don't think any of the previous models aren't good anymore. I still adore my Safari Carnotaurus and I still think it is one of the best on the market, but science marches on. As well as the Mattel FK and HC figures (although not the most scientifically informed) as far as action figures goes (plus the upcoming Cyberzoic one).

I have Carnotaurus figures by Schleich, Papo, Battat, Safari, Safari/Carnegie, and 3 from Mattel, and maybe others that I'm forgetting. At this point, it would take more than accurate feature scales to get me to buy another Carnotaurus. It would have to really WOW me. Partly because I still love all the ones I already have. The Carnegie is my favorite and I doubt that will ever change.

You mentioning the Safari Carnotaurus reminds me of how it was initially received by a lot of collectors. They turned up their noses at it claiming that it was too bulky. Then, Prehistoric Planet released with its bulky Carnotaurus, and now the Safari Carnotaurus is more well received. The desires of this community are at the mercy of the next scientific paper or pop culture reconstruction. 



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