Blade-of-the-Moon's Art

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Very cool!

Thanks !

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Wow! That is one awesome Velociraptor! I believe that is the third one you've done, right?

Yep ! This is " Spike " , he will join " Julia " and "Vicious " in our newest area !

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

re: triceratops

"face down + frill upright" represents several possibilities: low "grazing" (I use that as a common term, I know Tric isn't a grazer per se), relaxed position, thread display, mating display.... so I guess it just makes perfect sense.... and that frill was made to be displayed anyway.

Having the frill flush to the neck, head high in alert or bellowing position might help you with balance and weight saving though.

so... uhm.... up to you.  hahaha.... hope I didn't confuse you more.

Thanks for the help, though I think my point is missed somewhat.

The Battat has a frill formed with a curve to it like this :


The Wild Safari Trike has a flatter, widened out frill like this :


I'm just wondering which is correct. Maybe both are and it's an age/ species thing ?

[Yutyrannus]

I think the curve is correct, but I'm not sure.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I'm working from Scott's skeletal that portrays the WDC specimen. After looking it up. seems it's a mature but younger animal ?  That looks more like the one in the first pic .

[ITdactyl]

Touche!

hahahaha.  There are variations with the fossils available too...

'Also depends on which interpretation of frill growth you want to follow (that they had individual differences or that the frills get flatter and wider with age...etc.)

Or just follow the holotype for T.prorsus with the slight curve to the frill to be safe....

*ducks behind rock*

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Well I've already paid to have Scott's Trike head blown up to proper size for us to trace and cut out...so I'm sticking with T.Horridus I think.

I've been looking over Tracy Ford's article in PT #105 and it shows the skull differences I'm seeing in Figure 1.  I'm just not sure which one is which, the image layout is a bit confusing.

[brandem]

variation within a species would likely allow for that sort of difference so one may not be more right than another, though compression could cause either effect.

[stoneage]

   Your T-rex in the rain looks like it could be right out of the original Jurassic Park.  Nice job on the Velociraptor!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

variation within a species would likely allow for that sort of difference so one may not be more right than another, though compression could cause either effect.

It may just come down to personal preference, or at least what age I want it to be..an older adult or a younger adult.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

  Your T-rex in the rain looks like it could be right out of the original Jurassic Park.  Nice job on the Velociraptor!

The snow pics ? Yeah I had of positive comments on those on FB..I just thought it looked cool.  lol

Just wait til it's really nice and foggy and I catch it !

The odd thing is that I didn't use any JP references for this guy, just fossil pics and Scott's skeletal..but it has a JP vibe to it. I think maybe that shows how accurate the film creation was after all ?

Thanks ! I'll have more Velociraptor pics coming soon !

[amargasaurus cazaui]

KInd of studying that post about triceratops frills a bit and thinking....I think the issue isnt the shape of the frill so much as the angle that the head is mounted onto the occipatal. In other words, one of the pictures has the skull mounted "lower" at less angle to provide the idea of the frill lying back against the neck and flatter, making the horns just upward almost in angle. The other picture the skull is mounted at a more sharp angle causing the frill to jut upwards and aiming the horns forward in orientation. I do not think it is so much an issue of age, or which is correct , as much as how the skull is posed in relation to the body. You have to mentally envision the connection between the skull and body is a ball and socket joint....called an occipital . This ball allows the head to swing back and forth with ease, but would also allow up or downward orientation. If you look at the entire frill and horns as a single unit, where the frill is flatter the horns are oriented similarly.

[brandem]

variation within a species would likely allow for that sort of difference so one may not be more right than another, though compression could cause either effect.

It may just come down to personal preference, or at least what age I want it to be..an older adult or a younger adult.

But wait, this is an adult triceratops right? Just kidding, but I do love me a torosaurus

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

variation within a species would likely allow for that sort of difference so one may not be more right than another, though compression could cause either effect.

It may just come down to personal preference, or at least what age I want it to be..an older adult or a younger adult.

But wait, this is an adult triceratops right? Just kidding, but I do love me a torosaurus

That may be a much more mature Trike.. lol

I will note by this pic how narrow the skull is..I've heard that many restore a Triceratops and indeed other ceratopsian skulls too thick.  Anyone seen references for that ?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

KInd of studying that post about triceratops frills a bit and thinking....I think the issue isnt the shape of the frill so much as the angle that the head is mounted onto the occipatal. In other words, one of the pictures has the skull mounted "lower" at less angle to provide the idea of the frill lying back against the neck and flatter, making the horns just upward almost in angle. The other picture the skull is mounted at a more sharp angle causing the frill to jut upwards and aiming the horns forward in orientation. I do not think it is so much an issue of age, or which is correct , as much as how the skull is posed in relation to the body. You have to mentally envision the connection between the skull and body is a ball and socket joint....called an occipital . This ball allows the head to swing back and forth with ease, but would also allow up or downward orientation. If you look at the entire frill and horns as a single unit, where the frill is flatter the horns are oriented similarly.

You may have a point there.  That would explain Tracy Ford's overview of a couple skulls in his PT#105 article.  Though it doesn't explain the figures of the Battat and Wild Safari pieces..unless one is flat out wrong..two guess which.  The BIG CollectA may suffer the same issue then .

Now Shane mentioned the frill curve/width might vary from animal to animal like with a deer's horns.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

More Velociraptor " Spike " :

[docronnie]

Very beautiful Velociraptor! 

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Very beautiful Velociraptor! 

Thanks !

[Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus]

Spike looks fantastic!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Thanks bud !

Here's some pics of our fossil dig site, DIG IT! , almost complete.