CollectA New for 2016

[Tyto_Theropod]

I'll be getting the Struthiomimus (and it's about time someone did an ornithomimid!)
The rest are meh.

Indeed, but personally I prefer the Beishanlong! Pity I'm not a fan of attached bases, but as it is I think I'll pass on all these. That's not to say there aren't some great models in there.

[Shonisaurus]

I'll be getting the Struthiomimus (and it's about time someone did an ornithomimid!)
The rest are meh.

Indeed, but personally I prefer the Beishanlong! Pity I'm not a fan of attached bases, but as it is I think I'll pass on all these. That's not to say there aren't some great models in there.

The beishanlong is extraordinary, and as they say in other forums reminds me secretarybird (or colloquially called secretary).

Link: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_serpentarius

[Dinoguy2]

All the theropod taxa for which we have sufficient vaned feather impressions show the same general wing arrangement, no? And all extant theropods follow that same pattern. Ornithomimids bore vaned feathers. It is perhaps plausible that their deviated from that somehow, but it does not seem parsimonious. Anyway, most of what I've been reading lately places them even closer to modern theropods than animals we know for sure bore primaries, like dromaeosaurs and troodontids.

Aesthetically speaking, these models look like they have wings with "hands" sticking out the ends, which is like a blaring alarm to me saying to put my money back in my wallet. Maybe it's just my personal hangup, but there you go.

Yes, but all theropods with vaned feather impressions are Pennaraptorans. Once you move down the tree into the words zone (therizinosaurs, alvarezsaurs, ornithomimosaurs), we have no evidence of primaries and in some cases it's hard to see how they could exist (alvarezsaurs barely have enough manual phalange to attach them to!). We don't even know if the feathers in ornithomimids were vaned or plumilaceous. Cassowary have quill knobs with plumes attached, not vaned feathers, for example. I think the fingers would still be at least fuzzy either way or at least buried in ostrich style wings, even if they did lack primaries, but in this section of the tree we have no evidence and no bracket. So we just don't know if they should have primaries or not. If they did they'd be some primitive state, as they are close to where the origin of primaries would be since we know compsognsthids and tyrannosaurs definitely lack them. We don't know if primaries and secondaries both evolved together or if one came before the other.

By the way, what have you read that's placed them closer to birds than to troodontids and dromaeosaurs? That would make them avialans! I've never seen any modern phylogeny that found them closer to birds than to oviraptorids.

[Sim]

BEEEEEEEAUUUUUTIFUL!

The ornithomimid and ornithomimosaur are very good looking, lots of feathers and such- but being 1:40 scale, will be very small.
The Lythronax is amazing, but I'm not sure I'll get it. It looks a lot like the Rex. I still think it's very great though!
I am satisfied.

I'm not sure the adult size for Beishanlong is known.  I think the CollectA Beishanlong is too big to be in 1:40 scale though as it's said to be 23cm tall!  You don't think that's very small, right!?

I'm happy with the size of the CollectA Struthiomimus as I prefer having figures in roughly 1:40 scale unless they're of quite small animals.  Please CollectA, don't make the Struthiomimus permanently attached to its base, I want to get it!  I might even get some of the others if they aren't permanently attached to their bases.

[stargatedalek]

If they are permanently attached I know a few tricks that might work, emphasis on might of course.

[MLMjp]

Even if the figures are permanently attached to their bases, you can see that the feet in all figures are not buried into the bases, unlike in previous figures, so It will be easy to "remove" them from the base. Although bases are not my preference I don't think I will remove them. But for the rest of you I hope that the feet are still not buried into the base in the final figures

[suspsy]

All the theropod taxa for which we have sufficient vaned feather impressions show the same general wing arrangement, no? And all extant theropods follow that same pattern. Ornithomimids bore vaned feathers. It is perhaps plausible that their deviated from that somehow, but it does not seem parsimonious. Anyway, most of what I've been reading lately places them even closer to modern theropods than animals we know for sure bore primaries, like dromaeosaurs and troodontids.

Aesthetically speaking, these models look like they have wings with "hands" sticking out the ends, which is like a blaring alarm to me saying to put my money back in my wallet. Maybe it's just my personal hangup, but there you go.

Yes, but all theropods with vaned feather impressions are Pennaraptorans. Once you move down the tree into the words zone (therizinosaurs, alvarezsaurs, ornithomimosaurs), we have no evidence of primaries and in some cases it's hard to see how they could exist (alvarezsaurs barely have enough manual phalange to attach them to!). We don't even know if the feathers in ornithomimids were vaned or plumilaceous. Cassowary have quill knobs with plumes attached, not vaned feathers, for example. I think the fingers would still be at least fuzzy either way or at least buried in ostrich style wings, even if they did lack primaries, but in this section of the tree we have no evidence and no bracket. So we just don't know if they should have primaries or not. If they did they'd be some primitive state, as they are close to where the origin of primaries would be since we know compsognsthids and tyrannosaurs definitely lack them. We don't know if primaries and secondaries both evolved together or if one came before the other.

By the way, what have you read that's placed them closer to birds than to troodontids and dromaeosaurs? That would make them avialans! I've never seen any modern phylogeny that found them closer to birds than to oviraptorids.

I too would be very interested to read any and all research on this topic. As Dinoguy2 noted, there's a lot of variation among extant bird plumage and it seems presumptuous to assume that ornithomimosaurs had the same feathering on their arms as dromaeosaurs.

A height of 23 cm makes the Beishanlong slightly taller than the Deluxe Therizinosaurus and slightly shorter than the rearing Deluxe Jobaria, so it's definitely a Deluxe as well. Assuming that there's at least one more Deluxe among the four yet-to-be-revealed toys, I wonder if it will be one of the sea creatures.

[Sim]

My biggest concern is that there will be no improvements in the plastic to allow the CollectA based figures to stay upright without warping forward or to the side over time. My Ichythovenator is now solidy resting on its hands after just over a year of ownership, a slow progression which I observed happening, and this certainly prevents me from wanting to waste money on any other current CollectA figures with bases. I've also seen unattractive photos of the Saurophagonax leaning awkwardly to the side. Can anyone report on how the recent CollectA adult feathered rex holds up on its base?

The only one from that line that I ended up with that had a base was the Xiongguanlong,but I can tell you that it's plastic is very stiff and even after nearly a year it still stands fine without drooping down or sideways.But I should say that it's only about 4 inches long or so if it's tail were stretched out,so it may be simply because it's much smaller and lighter than all of the others you mentioned.

For bipedal dinosaurs I really think a stiff plastic is needed.  CollectA made the hips wider on the Saurophaganax and Ichthyovenator in an ineffective attempt to improve their stability.  I've been thinking about it, and it seems like the widened hips would actually make stability more difficult as more plastic is being put in the hip area to make it wider, which means the legs have more weight to support.  The Xiongguanlong also had its hips widened, but perhaps it didn't warp like the Ichthyovenator and Saurophaganax due to a combination of being lighter and being made of stiff plastic?

[Bucklander]

For what it's worth, my guess is a deluxe Apatosaurus. The mini figures are based (whenever there's a choice) on the deluxe versions, not the standard - Parasaurolophus, Amargasaurus, T rex, Velociraptor, Ankylosaurus). The only figure in their "toobs" that doesn't have a larger counterpart is the Apato. Therefore, I suspect they'll be bringing one out for 2016. And I'm hoping it'll be deluxe.

And going back a bit, Dan didn't say that it'd be a marine mammal. He said there'll be a mammal and a marine creature. Maybe one (or more) of each, maybe (but not necessarily) the two in one. I'm hoping for an Ambulocetus. And a Uintatherium and/or Estemmenosuchus. How is it, such curious creatures, the stuff of fantasy and nightmare, are so poorly represented?

[SBell]

For what it's worth, my guess is a deluxe Apatosaurus. The mini figures are based (whenever there's a choice) on the deluxe versions, not the standard - Parasaurolophus, Amargasaurus, T rex, Velociraptor, Ankylosaurus). The only figure in their "toobs" that doesn't have a larger counterpart is the Apato. Therefore, I suspect they'll be bringing one out for 2016. And I'm hoping it'll be deluxe.

And going back a bit, Dan didn't say that it'd be a marine mammal. He said there'll be a mammal and a marine creature. Maybe one (or more) of each, maybe (but not necessarily) the two in one. I'm hoping for an Ambulocetus. And a Uintatherium and/or Estemmenosuchus. How is it, such curious creatures, the stuff of fantasy and nightmare, are so poorly represented?

But I said:

It would be a shame if at least one wasn't a mammal or marine animal (or...a combination of both? Andno, I have no idea).

You shall have your wish, Sean.

And you may note the response. Maybe it will be Levyatan. Which would almost bve funny, given that everyone always wants a Basilosaurus...

[Dan]

And going back a bit, Dan didn't say that it'd be a marine mammal. He said there'll be a mammal and a marine creature.

Correct. To clarify, we'll be getting one of each from CollectA. There will be two more theropods, as well.

[stargatedalek]

*Pterosaur hype dies*

Well you never know,  with CollectAs knack for the obscure it might be one of the diving pterosaurs.

[suspsy]

Two more theropods? I'm disappointed by the lack of herbivores. Poor Mercuriceratops must be very lonely.

[John]

And going back a bit, Dan didn't say that it'd be a marine mammal. He said there'll be a mammal and a marine creature.

Correct. To clarify, we'll be getting one of each from CollectA. There will be two more theropods, as well.

Okay then,it seem very likely that one of the theropods will be Torvosaurus. But considering how all over the map this line really is with species,I can't even begin to guess what the other three are going to be...If not for hints I've seen outside this forum,I would never have even thought of Torvosaurus...

[Gwangi]

Two more theropods? I'm disappointed by the lack of herbivores. Poor Mercuriceratops must be very lonely.

Well I guess the Mercuriceratops can hang with the ornithomimosaurs. Although they're theropods I imagine ceratopsians weren't on the menu.

[suspsy]

Heh. Now watch the two remaining theropods turn out to be a brand new Deluxe Deinocheirus and a Gallimimus.

Also, while I would still prefer Basilosaurus, I'd buy a Livyatan in a heartbeat.

[Bucklander]

Okay then, no Apatosaurus this year (pity, the mini one is quite nice). My guess for the 2 theropods is either Torvosaurus (or, if not, maybe Qianzhousaurus (yeah, I know, I've cheated and snuck in an extra guess)) and Nuthetes.

While I agree with comments made by others, re; preferring better known genera, I suspect Collecta will cash in on the sudden fame of Nuthetes due to its appearance on Dinosaur Britain. I imagine lots of little British kids would eagerly snap up their own nation's raptor. And it might be a supreme line figure.

As for the others, I hope a Nothosaurus or a Cymbospondylus, and for the mammal; it obviously is not a Uintatherium, else I suspect Dan would have hinted that my wish be granted, so my second hope, a really cool Andrewsarchus. Though it'll probably be a boring old Megatherium or Coelodont or something.

Finally, I'm wondering if Collecta intends to release a tube of mini prehistoric mammals at some time. They have just about enough large ones now (Mammoth, Deinotherium, Arsinoitherium, Chalicotherium, Megacerops, Indricatherium, Daeodon, Smilodon and now the new one. Wait, that's only 9. They'll need one more). Perhaps in 2017...

[SBell]

Okay then, no Apatosaurus this year (pity, the mini one is quite nice). My guess for the 2 theropods is either Torvosaurus (or, if not, maybe Qianzhousaurus (yeah, I know, I've cheated and snuck in an extra guess)) and Nuthetes.

While I agree with comments made by others, re; preferring better known genera, I suspect Collecta will cash in on the sudden fame of Nuthetes due to its appearance on Dinosaur Britain. I imagine lots of little British kids would eagerly snap up their own nation's raptor. And it might be a supreme line figure.

As for the others, I hope a Nothosaurus or a Cymbospondylus, and for the mammal; it obviously is not a Uintatherium, else I suspect Dan would have hinted that my wish be granted, so my second hope, a really cool Andrewsarchus. Though it'll probably be a boring old Megatherium or Coelodont or something.

Finally, I'm wondering if Collecta intends to release a tube of mini prehistoric mammals at some time. They have just about enough large ones now (Mammoth, Deinotherium, Arsinoitherium, Chalicotherium, Megacerops, Indricatherium, Daeodon, Smilodon and now the new one. Wait, that's only 9. They'll need one more). Perhaps in 2017...

They did create a new Giganotosaurus and Apatosaurus for the tubes only (so far...I suppose we might knoiw what one of the new theropods is...) so they could be ready for a mammal tube now.

[Bucklander]

They did create a new Giganotosaurus and Apatosaurus for the tubes only (so far...I suppose we might knoiw what one of the new theropods is...) so they could be ready for a mammal tube now.
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You know, I think you're right. I seem to remember the inclusion of a Giganotosaurus, but I thought, perhaps I was confusing the Collecta tubes with the Papo. I've looked for the paper that came with the Collecta tubes (I got them a couple of days ago) but my room's too disorganized ATM. It's just that, when they arrived and I first opened them, I assumed the Giga was a Carcharodontasaurus. It really does look exactly like a scaled down version of that figure. Even looking at it now, I find it hard to believe Collecta would release a Giganotosaurus with a sculpt so very similar to its deluxe Carchara. Re you sure it is a Giga?

[DinoG]

Guys do we have pictures of the collecta mini toobs anywhere in the forum?