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The most perfect/accurate dinosaur

Started by CarnegieCollector, August 03, 2016, 07:25:05 AM

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CarnegieCollector

Hi-oh everyone!
I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on the most accurate dinosaur figures ever made. Brand doesn't matter. I'd also like to know if there is a PERFECTLY made dinosaur figure, with no inaccuracies.
Also, what is the most accurate Jurassic park toy ever made? I know JP/JW isn't the most accurate toy brand, but I'd like to hear your opinions on the most accurate. Thanks!  :D
Is there an alternate universe in which dinosaurs collect figures of people?


Derek.McManus

By their very nature there's guesswork in all models of this type...so tough challenge.

btb300

Quote from: Derek.McManus on August 03, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
By their very nature there's guesswork in all models of this type...so tough challenge.
But still there is a lot of data to stick to, and leave only the rest to imagination and guessing. I am curious to see what the experienced collectors in the community think of this.
Inevitably, underlying instabilities begin to appear.

Silvanusaurus

Technically speaking, I imagine the closest to a 'perfectly' accurate figure of a prehistoric dinosaur would have to be a skeletal model. I'm not really sure how you could judge perfect accuracy beyond that, considering the subject would be mostly formed from somebodies individual imagination.

amargasaurus cazaui

I could probably make a half decent case for a few of the psittacosaurus models I own given the amount of evidence we have for that genus
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


DinoLord

Probably something by Kaiyodo or Sideshow.

Halichoeres

I think Silvanusaurus makes a good point, although if you're looking for something that's fleshed out, it's probably going to be something a) with an exoskeleton or b) that has been preserved essentially as a mummy. For a) it's going to be arthropods and armored fishes (Kaiyodo Meganeura, Bothriolepis) and for b) it's going to be things like the Wild Safari Gryposaurus or Takara Tomy Anchiornis, for which we have excellent skeletal remains as well as integument impressions from several different parts of the animal.
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stargatedalek

#7
I'm rather fond of Takara Tomy's Breezy Singers dinosaurs myself, the even use real recorded calls ;)

As for JP I think the JPS1 hatchling Pteranodon may take the spotlight, but of course it's also so small as to obscure many potential flaws.
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Silvanusaurus

Quote from: Halichoeres on August 03, 2016, 03:40:29 PM
I think Silvanusaurus makes a good point, although if you're looking for something that's fleshed out, it's probably going to be something a) with an exoskeleton or b) that has been preserved essentially as a mummy. For a) it's going to be arthropods and armored fishes (Kaiyodo Meganeura, Bothriolepis) and for b) it's going to be things like the Wild Safari Gryposaurus or Takara Tomy Anchiornis, for which we have excellent skeletal remains as well as integument impressions from several different parts of the animal.

I havn't seen that Takara Tomy Anchiornis before, I'm guessing its quite rare? 

Patrx

Quote from: Silvanusaurus on August 03, 2016, 03:56:06 PMI havn't seen that Takara Tomy Anchiornis before, I'm guessing its quite rare?

Depressingly so, though it's not quite flawless - the "finger" digits should be fuzzy, not bare or scaly.

Halichoeres

Quote from: Patrx on August 03, 2016, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: Silvanusaurus on August 03, 2016, 03:56:06 PMI havn't seen that Takara Tomy Anchiornis before, I'm guessing its quite rare?

Depressingly so, though it's not quite flawless - the "finger" digits should be fuzzy, not bare or scaly.

Yeah, it was from a 2012 Dino Expo, part of a set of 8. I bought all 8 just to get it. Kaiyodo-sized, roughly, so about 1:7 scale.

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tyrantqueen

Unless we invent a time machine, the perfect dinosaur figure will never exist.

CarnegieCollector

#12
Quote from: tyrantqueen on August 03, 2016, 07:43:12 PM
Unless we invent a time machine, the perfect dinosaur figure will never exist.

that sucks makes sense.

Well then let's make a time machine now!
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CityRaptor

Well, technically you don't need a time machine. There are roughly 10000 species of Dinosaur around now.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

MLMjp

Quote from: CityRaptor on August 03, 2016, 08:11:11 PM
Well, technically you don't need a time machine. There are roughly 10000 species of Dinosaur around now.

I think he wants the perfect figure of a NON-avian dinosaur ;)

tyrantqueen

Quote from: CarnegieCollector on August 03, 2016, 07:48:54 PM
Quote from: tyrantqueen on August 03, 2016, 07:43:12 PM
Unless we invent a time machine, the perfect dinosaur figure will never exist.

that sucks makes sense.

Well then let's make a time machine now!

To the DeLorean!

deanm

#16
There is a DeLorean in my neighbourhood that the owner converted to the time machine version. 

He actually has 2 DeLoreans. One is factory stock while the other is the conversion.

We have a lot of British car collectors in Ontario Canada (more than other areas that I have lived in).

CarnegieCollector

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Lanthanotus

Perfect is an absolute superlative, so it is a state of reconstruction that cannot be achieved by any scientific research (as long as we do not invent the said time machine ;)).

Quote from: Silvanusaurus on August 03, 2016, 11:50:34 AM
Technically speaking, I imagine the closest to a 'perfectly' accurate figure of a prehistoric dinosaur would have to be a skeletal model. I'm not really sure how you could judge perfect accuracy beyond that, considering the subject would be mostly formed from somebodies individual imagination.

I somewhat disagree, cause skeletal remains allow for a certain, scientifically reasoned, guess about the position and bulk of muscles and tendons. Such reconstructions may be as accurate as the position of bones to each other, so a fleshed skeleton could be as accurate as a mere skeleton could be falsely reconstructed, it all depends on the quality of the fossil remains and the skill of the researchers.

That being said I struggle to judge about what figures may be most accurate as there's also a lot of artistic freedom which is hard to judge. For example, the Bullyland Lambeosaurus may be as accurate as one can get the species, however the overall appearance of the figure's surface is somewhat crude if compared to the crisp and lifelike detailed figures of Papo, so, can it be accurate if it doesn't look as if it could just being to move and walk away from your desk? For me some of the most accurate figures, according to the scientific knowledge about them at the moment are.... Safari Nasutoceratops, Carnegie Ichtyosaurus, CollectA Mosasaurus, GNmodels Edaphosaurus, Kaiyodo Plateosaurus...




Federreptil

#19
If you follow the heated debates about the different models and manufacturers in this forum – a time machine is really the only solution. Because everyone have his own taste and fossilized bones are not so clear as we wanted. There are only favorites but no certainty. If I look to the archives a short list of mine is ...

the Jinfengopteryx of Martin Garrat,
the Troodon of David Krentz,
the Apatosaurus of Jorge Blanco, Sideshow,
the Argentinosaurus of Sean Cooper,
the Yutyrannus of Sean Cooper, Dan's Dinosaurs
the Styraccosaurus of David Krentz, Sideshow (maybe a little bit too theatrical)
the Allosaurus of Galileo Hernandez, Geene Models

It's strange – no one of this choises is in my fund.

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