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Safari: New for 2017

Started by Patrx, August 22, 2016, 08:26:39 PM

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Flaffy

I hope Permian and Triassic fauna gets tackled more, there are just so many synapsids and amphibians!


Takama

As you all may know (thanks to a Review i wrote), i criticized Schliech for releasing repeats of species they already did for there World of History collection. so it may seem like a double standard for me to say that i applaud Safari for making a Feathered T.Rex when they already had one.

Here is the kicker, everytime Safari makes a new T.Rex for the Wild Safari line, It improves upon what was made before. The very first one was decent, if not a bit dated now, the second one was Awful, one of the worst safari figurines i ever saw, and the third one was almost perfect for its time. now we have something that blows it out of the water. When Schelich makes a repeat, they dont bother on fixing anything wrong with the previous versions.

Sim

I don't like the first Wild Safari Tyrannosaurus.  Its head looks very strange and inaccurate.

Pachyrhinosaurus

Quote from: Sim on August 27, 2016, 03:21:08 PM
I don't like the first Wild Safari Tyrannosaurus.  Its head looks very strange and inaccurate.

I can't find it anymore, but I know the original sculptor posted it on their website and it was labeled as tarbosaurus.
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Dilopho

Quote from: Sim on August 27, 2016, 03:21:08 PM
I don't like the first Wild Safari Tyrannosaurus.  Its head looks very strange and inaccurate.

You mean this one?( Image from http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/safari-tyrannosaurus.html!)

Sim

Yeah, that's the one.  And now I remember reading the prototype(?) being labelled Tarbosaurus on the sculptor's website here: http://wmbsculptor.tripod.com/id4.html

It definitely looks better in the photos on the sculptor's website.  The head still doesn't look right to me even for Tarbosaurus, but it looks like a better match than for Tyrannosaurus.  Maybe it works as a dated Tarbosaurus head.  The final toy version really looks worse to me.

Dilopho

Quote from: Sim on August 27, 2016, 06:20:40 PM
Yeah, that's the one.  And now I remember reading the prototype(?) being labelled Tarbosaurus on the sculptor's website here: http://wmbsculptor.tripod.com/id4.html

It definitely looks better in the photos on the sculptor's website.  The head still doesn't look right to me even for Tarbosaurus, but it looks like a better match than for Tyrannosaurus.  Maybe it works as a dated Tarbosaurus head.  The final toy version really looks worse to me.
Wow, cool website!

...."Velociraptor antirrhopus"?!?

Sim

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Although I just noticed there's also a very similar Tyrannosaurus on the sculptor's website.

This one's labelled Tarbosaurus bataar: http://wmbsculptor.tripod.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://wmbsculptor.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tarbosaur.jpg&target=tlx_new

And this one's labelled Tyrannosaurus rex: http://wmbsculptor.tripod.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=560&linkpath=http://wmbsculptor.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/d1.jpg&target=tlx_new

It's hard to tell if they are the same sculpt or if only one of the two is the prototype for the Wild Safari toy, and if so which of the two is.


Quote from: Dilopho on August 27, 2016, 06:34:22 PM
...."Velociraptor antirrhopus"?!?

The name "Velociraptor antirrhopus" was created by Gregory Paul in 1988 when he tried to reclassify Deinonychus antirrhopus as a species of Velociraptor.  This hasn't been accepted so "Velociraptor antirrhopus" is a synonym of Deinonychus antirrhopus, and not a valid name.  Even Gregory Paul stopped using "Velociraptor antirrhopus" ages ago after he realised Deinonychus was more different from Velociraptor than he previously thought.

suspsy

It's Gregory Paul's fault that Velociraptor and not Deinonychus received a starring role in a certain novel. >:(

And yes, the first WS T. rex is atrocious. I'll never forget coming across that toy in a museum gift shop and being disgusted by that head. Where in the world did the sculptor get that concept from?
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Halichoeres

Quote from: FlaffyRaptors on August 27, 2016, 01:35:36 PM
I hope Permian and Triassic fauna gets tackled more, there are just so many synapsids and amphibians!

Yes! With the Scutosaurus being discontinued, it's down to just Inostrancevia and Postosuchus (and some Toob figures).
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Takama

Quote from: suspsy on August 27, 2016, 07:22:11 PM
It's Gregory Paul's fault that Velociraptor and not Deinonychus received a starring role in a certain novel. >:(

And yes, the first WS T. rex is atrocious. I'll never forget coming across that toy in a museum gift shop and being disgusted by that head. Where in the world did the sculptor get that concept from?

I thoght the second version was a lot worse. 

How is this


Worse then this?



I think its vice versa, but to each there own

suspsy

Ah, I had the two of them confused. They're both lousy, but the top one is the worst.
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Concavenator

I hope Safari reveals the rest of the dinosaurs soon,with individual pics.As I think I said before,what is shown of the Tyrannosaurus looks absolutely overwhelming,far better than the Carnegie model that was recently released (even if I'm a Carnegie fan).
I hope there is a Deinocheirus in store for next year.
I'm also happy that they will begin to be available in October...perhaps I will get the Tyrannosaurus for my birthday...or another (yet unrevealed figure).
Seriously though,if they will be released in October,that surely means the rest will be unveiled soon won't they?

PD: Tyrannosaurus hype aside,we will see if it ends up as good as the promo picture and as the CollectA version from last year.Both are wonderful figures.

Dilopho

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Quote from: Takama on August 27, 2016, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: suspsy on August 27, 2016, 07:22:11 PM
It's Gregory Paul's fault that Velociraptor and not Deinonychus received a starring role in a certain novel. >:(

And yes, the first WS T. rex is atrocious. I'll never forget coming across that toy in a museum gift shop and being disgusted by that head. Where in the world did the sculptor get that concept from?

I thoght the second version was a lot worse. 

How is this


Worse then this?



I think its vice versa, but to each there own
I don't like either of them very well but I think it's the mouth and eyes that gross me out in the top one. Something about the teeth maybe? It's just very...uncanny.
The second one looks like a demon but I have a bootleg one and it's not that bad.
If the second one's head was on the top one's body I'd probably like it though. But get rid of the silly eye horn things, you're not an allosaur, rexy!

terrorchicken

Quote from: Dilopho on August 27, 2016, 04:50:09 PM
Quote from: Sim on August 27, 2016, 03:21:08 PM
I don't like the first Wild Safari Tyrannosaurus.  Its head looks very strange and inaccurate.

You mean this one?( Image from http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/safari-tyrannosaurus.html!)

funny, when i first bought it back in the 90s I thought it was the coolest T-rex figure Id ever seen, it looked so much more updated than most of the T-rex toys at the time. Now I see it and Im like, wow it hasnt aged well at all! I still have it and some of the other early WS dinos for nostalgia reasons. It was one of the first dinosaur figures I had as a collection.

what is it about the current WS Triceratops and Stegosaurus that need updating? I think they look pretty good to me, bit Im not a dinosaur anatomy expert.

suspsy

#155
 The Triceratops simply pales in comparison to the Vagaceratops, the Diabloceratops, the Pachyrhinosaurus, and the Nasutoceratops. Also looks too JPish, and its front feet aren't positioned correctly. And the Stegosaurus' thagomizer is wrong.
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tanystropheus

Quote from: suspsy on August 27, 2016, 10:39:22 PM
The Triceratops simply pales in comparison to the Vagaceratops, the Diabloceratops, the Pachyrhinosaurus, and the Nasutoceratops. Also looks too JPish, and its front feet aren't positioned correctly. And the Stegosaurus' thagomizer is wrong.

The Triceratops definitely does not match with the style of the other WS ceratopsians. Maybe, they could make us all happy by making a Torosaurus. Also, a previous WS promo poster hinted at a Pentaceratops...but that was a few years ago.

The WS and Papo Stegosaurus are very really similar, IMO. It would be nice to see WS deliver a definitive Stegosaurus.

Kovu

I do hope we get a ceratopsian this year. Last year's figures were lovely, but I did miss what was seeming to be an annual horned beastie.
Personally, a Rubeosaurus, Centrosaurus, Chasmosaurus or Sinoceratops would be fantastic to see.

Concavenator

Quote from: suspsy on August 27, 2016, 10:39:22 PM
The Triceratops simply pales in comparison to the Vagaceratops, the Diabloceratops, the Pachyrhinosaurus, and the Nasutoceratops. Also looks too JPish, and its front feet aren't positioned correctly. And the Stegosaurus' thagomizer is wrong.
I agree,the Triceratops and Stegosaurus need a resculpt,though personally,if I had to choose two more dinosaurs to be in next year's lineup are Deinocheirus and Deinonychus.Also,I think that an updated Spinosaurus is inevitable,even if it will likely not be released anytime soon.
PD:Safari really needs to give us the accurate dromaeosaur model we 've been eagerly anticipating.A Deinonychus would be a sensible choice,but given that Safari has been resculpting models in these years,perhaps they'll do an Utahraptor.An amazing choice would be Balaur

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The Trike and the Stego are leagues ahead of most other widely available companies' options. I see no reason to waste a slot on Safari's production line over such minor quibbles. There's plenty of other older Safari models which are FAR more inaccurate by now. With those two considerations in mind, I'm quite happy with my Trike and Stego for now.

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