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CollectA New for 2017

Started by Everything_Dinosaur, November 03, 2016, 04:10:51 PM

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Shonisaurus

Quote from: suspsy on December 31, 2016, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on December 31, 2016, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: Neosodon on December 31, 2016, 04:37:40 AM
Quote from: FlawedCoil82 on December 31, 2016, 03:22:26 AM
I really need to start hassling these companies to find out why they still have a Hellbent refusal to ever release a Centrosaurus. It is mind boggling to me that one of the most well known ceratopsians still remains without a figure from Collect A, Safari, Papo, Battat, Schleich, etc.  :o I just don't get it. These companies literally fall over themselves to be the very first to create new figures for "new" dinosaurs that are known from one single tooth fossil, yet completely ignore some well established dinos.
Well they finally made Einiosaurus this year so maybe next year will be the year of Centrosaurus. With the quantity of ceratopsians collecta releases it seems like they could throw in a couple classics like Pentaceratops, or a new Chasmosaurus and Triceratops too in coming years.

I can't see Safari not releasing a new Triceratops to go with their new T-Rex next year.  The two are practically attached at the hip lol   

Doug's doing a great job on ceratopsians , I hope he gets every species at some point.

As long as he gives us Triceratops and/or Torosaurus, I'll be happy. :)

I'd also love to see either CollectA or Safari give Albertosaurus and Gorgosaurus some love. Like Centrosaurus, they're not the biggest or the flashiest members of their family, but they're known from multiple specimens, many of them complete. CollectA did a fabulous job with their Bistahieversor and Lythronax, and they could totally do those other two tyrannosaurs justice.

I would like on Collecta's part a tyrannosauroid other than tyrannosaurus rex. As you have said an albertosaurus, gorgosaurus Collecta deluxe figure or a deluxe alioramus, deluxe deluxe or deluxe tarbosaurus.

On the other hand Safari could also make those figures on a scale to his giganotosaurus and tyrannosaurus rex this year. It would be fabulous.

On the other hand the bistahievesor and lythronax are very well modeled by Collecta but they could make it deluxe size as well.

Except tyrannosaurus rex, tyranosauroids are highly underestimated and undervalued by toy companies considering that they could be as popular as tyrannosaurus rex.

From my point of view it would be a success from the commercial perspective.


suspsy

Actually, I'd much prefer a CollectA Albertosaurus or Gorgosaurus to be Standard class, as they'd go well with the Bistahieversor, the Lythronax, the Daspletosaurus, and the Xionguanlong.
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Sim

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Quote from: Shonisaurus on December 31, 2016, 06:14:45 PM
I would like on Collecta's part a tyrannosauroid other than tyrannosaurus rex. As you have said an albertosaurus, gorgosaurus Collecta deluxe figure or a deluxe alioramus, deluxe deluxe or deluxe tarbosaurus.

On the other hand Safari could also make those figures on a scale to his giganotosaurus and tyrannosaurus rex this year. It would be fabulous.

The "deluxe deluxe" sounds particularly intriguing.  What is it?  ;)

Nanuqsaurus

Quote from: Sim on December 31, 2016, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: Shonisaurus on December 31, 2016, 06:14:45 PM
I would like on Collecta's part a tyrannosauroid other than tyrannosaurus rex. As you have said an albertosaurus, gorgosaurus Collecta deluxe figure or a deluxe alioramus, deluxe deluxe or deluxe tarbosaurus.

On the other hand Safari could also make those figures on a scale to his giganotosaurus and tyrannosaurus rex this year. It would be fabulous.

The "deluxe deluxe" sounds particularly intriguing.  What is it?  ;)

Oh it's a new genus of dinosaur, it was just discovered in Australia so it's the first new dinosaur find for 2017. Palaeontologists are not sure what group Deluxe belongs to.

Dilopho

Quote from: Nanuqsaurus on December 31, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
Oh it's a new genus of dinosaur, it was just discovered in Australia so it's the first new dinosaur find for 2017. Palaeontologists are not sure what group Deluxe belongs to.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: suspsy on December 31, 2016, 06:59:38 PM
Actually, I'd much prefer a CollectA Albertosaurus or Gorgosaurus to be Standard class, as they'd go well with the Bistahieversor, the Lythronax, the Daspletosaurus, and the Xionguanlong.

Solomon's solution: make a gorgosaurus and a albertosaurus in standard series and in Deluxe size.

Moreover the bistahieversor, lythronax, daspletosaurus and Xionguanlong also make them in deluxe version. So we would all be happy.  ^-^

japfeif

Quote from: CMIPalaeo on December 19, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Fair enough! Safari does seem pretty open to anything when Doug Watson's fantastic ceratopsians are concerned, at least. Speaking of ceratopsians, I always found CollectA's to be somewhat wonky

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure why they are insisting on putting the "fin of perceived quills" along the anterior part of the tails in so many of their ceratopsians. Is there any actual evidence of the tail quills on any of the quadruped ceratopsians like there seems to have been in Psittacosaurus? (I may be a bit out of touch with the latest discoveries)

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FlawedCoil82

Quote from: japfeif on January 01, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: CMIPalaeo on December 19, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Fair enough! Safari does seem pretty open to anything when Doug Watson's fantastic ceratopsians are concerned, at least. Speaking of ceratopsians, I always found CollectA's to be somewhat wonky

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure why they are insisting on putting the "fin of perceived quills" along the anterior part of the tails in so many of their ceratopsians. Is there any actual evidence of the tail quills on any of the quadruped ceratopsians like there seems to have been in Psittacosaurus? (I may be a bit out of touch with the latest discoveries)

I don't know but that is why I am not a fan of the CollectA figures. I don't like the quills and they seem very impractical. I feel the same way about feathered TRex. I see no reason why a creature that large would need feathers. It seems like every new discovery/theory makes dinosaurs less and less cool. I recently saw an article where they claim dinosaurs chirped like birds instead of roaring. Ugh! As soon as science claims that Ceratopsians were just big horned birds, that will officially kill my interest in them.

Anyway,  I wish CollectA would offer versions of the Ceratopsians without the quills. For me, they are the deal breaker and why I do not own them.

Takama

Quote from: FlawedCoil82 on January 02, 2017, 12:19:59 AM
Quote from: japfeif on January 01, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: CMIPalaeo on December 19, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Fair enough! Safari does seem pretty open to anything when Doug Watson's fantastic ceratopsians are concerned, at least. Speaking of ceratopsians, I always found CollectA's to be somewhat wonky

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure why they are insisting on putting the "fin of perceived quills" along the anterior part of the tails in so many of their ceratopsians. Is there any actual evidence of the tail quills on any of the quadruped ceratopsians like there seems to have been in Psittacosaurus? (I may be a bit out of touch with the latest discoveries)

I don't know but that is why I am not a fan of the CollectA figures. I don't like the quills and they seem very impractical. I feel the same way about feathered TRex. I see no reason why a creature that large would need feathers. It seems like every new discovery/theory makes dinosaurs less and less cool. I recently saw an article where they claim dinosaurs chirped like birds instead of roaring. Ugh! As soon as science claims that Ceratopsians were just big horned birds, that will officially kill my interest in them.

Anyway,  I wish CollectA would offer versions of the Ceratopsians without the quills. For me, they are the deal breaker and why I do not own them.

Your not alone for not liking the CollectA Ceratopsinas Quills, One of my Paleontologist Friends on Facebook agrees that CollectA is doing something wrong with these models by giving them this feature.

About dinosaurs being less and less cool, you just going have to accept that T.Rex  may of had feathers. While most Paleontologists accept that this dinosaur is feathered, the extant to which it was Feathered is still up for debate..     ITs the 21rst century and Science does not work to  to ruin peoples childhoods, instead it goes by what the facts are presented in the Fossil record.  IF you cant accept science for what it really is, then i feel sorry for your need to leave the hobby entirely

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: japfeif on January 01, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: CMIPalaeo on December 19, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Fair enough! Safari does seem pretty open to anything when Doug Watson's fantastic ceratopsians are concerned, at least. Speaking of ceratopsians, I always found CollectA's to be somewhat wonky

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure why they are insisting on putting the "fin of perceived quills" along the anterior part of the tails in so many of their ceratopsians. Is there any actual evidence of the tail quills on any of the quadruped ceratopsians like there seems to have been in Psittacosaurus? (I may be a bit out of touch with the latest discoveries)

at one point it was thought Triceratops had quills over it's back due to some skin impressions found with large osteoderms that were interpreted as quill knobs if i recall correctly but it either wasn't true or it was ignored baring further research.   At any rate I don't think any other ceratopsians have been found with any such quills.   Maybe CollectA just likes being unique?

Neosodon

Quote from: Takama on January 02, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: FlawedCoil82 on January 02, 2017, 12:19:59 AM
Quote from: japfeif on January 01, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: CMIPalaeo on December 19, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Fair enough! Safari does seem pretty open to anything when Doug Watson's fantastic ceratopsians are concerned, at least. Speaking of ceratopsians, I always found CollectA's to be somewhat wonky

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure why they are insisting on putting the "fin of perceived quills" along the anterior part of the tails in so many of their ceratopsians. Is there any actual evidence of the tail quills on any of the quadruped ceratopsians like there seems to have been in Psittacosaurus? (I may be a bit out of touch with the latest discoveries)

I don't know but that is why I am not a fan of the CollectA figures. I don't like the quills and they seem very impractical. I feel the same way about feathered TRex. I see no reason why a creature that large would need feathers. It seems like every new discovery/theory makes dinosaurs less and less cool. I recently saw an article where they claim dinosaurs chirped like birds instead of roaring. Ugh! As soon as science claims that Ceratopsians were just big horned birds, that will officially kill my interest in them.

Anyway,  I wish CollectA would offer versions of the Ceratopsians without the quills. For me, they are the deal breaker and why I do not own them.

Your not alone for not liking the CollectA Ceratopsinas Quills, One of my Paleontologist Friends on Facebook agrees that CollectA is doing something wrong with these models by giving them this feature.

About dinosaurs being less and less cool, you just going have to accept that T.Rex  may of had feathers. While most Paleontologists accept that this dinosaur is feathered, the extant to which it was Feathered is still up for debate..     ITs the 21rst century and Science does not work to  to ruin peoples childhoods, instead it goes by what the facts are presented in the Fossil record.  IF you cant accept science for what it really is, then i feel sorry for your need to leave the hobby entirely
I don't see any reason to believe that ceratopsians didn't have quills or any reason why people would not like them. Ceratopsians were all about display so it seems perfectly reasonable plus collecta does a pretty good job at applying them.

"3,000 km to the south, the massive comet crashes into Earth. The light from the impact fades in silence. Then the shock waves arrive. Next comes the blast front. Finally a rain of molten rock starts to fall out of the darkening sky - this is the end of the age of the dinosaurs. The Comet struck the Gulf of Mexico with the force of 10 billion Hiroshima bombs. And with the catastrophic climate changes that followed 65% of all life died out. It took millions of years for the earth to recover but when it did the giant dinosaurs were gone - never to return." - WWD

Sim

This thread might be of interest regarding filaments in ceratopsians :): http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3225.0

suspsy

Quote from: FlawedCoil82 on January 02, 2017, 12:19:59 AM

I don't know but that is why I am not a fan of the CollectA figures. I don't like the quills and they seem very impractical. I feel the same way about feathered TRex. I see no reason why a creature that large would need feathers. It seems like every new discovery/theory makes dinosaurs less and less cool. I recently saw an article where they claim dinosaurs chirped like birds instead of roaring. Ugh!

Science really doesn't care whether or not you approve of its findings.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr


Flaffy

Quote from: suspsy on January 02, 2017, 02:25:29 AM
Quote from: FlawedCoil82 on January 02, 2017, 12:19:59 AM

I don't know but that is why I am not a fan of the CollectA figures. I don't like the quills and they seem very impractical. I feel the same way about feathered TRex. I see no reason why a creature that large would need feathers. It seems like every new discovery/theory makes dinosaurs less and less cool. I recently saw an article where they claim dinosaurs chirped like birds instead of roaring. Ugh!

Science really doesn't care whether or not you approve of its findings.
Feathers help animals thermoregulate, identification, mating dances etc.
As suspsy said, science doesn't care, it only presents facts.
Do a little research on feathers and their usage, you seem to know very little about that.

stargatedalek

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 02, 2017, 01:10:55 AM
Quote from: japfeif on January 01, 2017, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: CMIPalaeo on December 19, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Fair enough! Safari does seem pretty open to anything when Doug Watson's fantastic ceratopsians are concerned, at least. Speaking of ceratopsians, I always found CollectA's to be somewhat wonky

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure why they are insisting on putting the "fin of perceived quills" along the anterior part of the tails in so many of their ceratopsians. Is there any actual evidence of the tail quills on any of the quadruped ceratopsians like there seems to have been in Psittacosaurus? (I may be a bit out of touch with the latest discoveries)
at one point it was thought Triceratops had quills over it's back due to some skin impressions found with large osteoderms that were interpreted as quill knobs if i recall correctly but it either wasn't true or it was ignored baring further research.   At any rate I don't think any other ceratopsians have been found with any such quills.   Maybe CollectA just likes being unique?
It all stems from a misunderstanding of what Psittacosaurus quills actually are. People heard "Psittacosaurus has quills" and "Triceratops has weird bumps that seem like the tip is broken off of" and filled in the dots themselves, incorrectly.

suspsy

At this point, ceratopsian butt fuzz (as James Kirkland calls it) seems to have become CollectA's signature. I don't mind it myself, but I can see why other people do.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

tanystropheus

Quote from: suspsy on January 02, 2017, 04:36:35 AM
At this point, ceratopsian butt fuzz (as James Kirkland calls it) seems to have become CollectA's signature. I don't mind it myself, but I can see why other people do.

Artistic license, albeit, improbable.

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