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Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

Started by DinoToyForum, June 21, 2012, 11:20:49 PM

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Joel

Quote from: Gwangi
In your scenario you would also need to address how InGen was capable of bringing dinosaurs to the mainland AFTER the incident in the second film. Lets face it, once a Tyrannosaurus rampages through a city the government isn't just gonna allow people to bring more dinosaurs into the place.
Hmm, we can say that In-Gen developed a sedative for there dinosaurs and paid off government officials, claiming that there dinosaurs are now "safe". Also, the sedative works great for In-Gen dinosaurs because of the mutated (amphibian DNA was used to complete the dinosaurs) DNA, and it would have adverse effects in the "real" dinosaurs, such as becoming extremely panicked when waking up.

Quote from: Gwangi
And why would the FBI be involved?
They were involved during the BHIGR raid, and because this is occuring in the middle nowhere, the highest law inforcement agency would be needed. In-Gen would have also lobbied the government to see things their way.

Quote from: Gwangi
Also in regards to nuking the city, that really shouldn't even be an option. I doubt any sane government would allow someone to bring dinosaurs to a major city with the solution of dropping a nuke on them should they escape, honestly they would just send out people to hunt the dinosaurs and kill them. A nuke is a bit extreme I would think.
Well, I do have friends in the military, and according to them, a nuke is considered when a uncontrollable outbreak is imminent (we discussed this after AVP: Requiem). And remember, this is just a suggestion in a meeting room that is quickly shot down because the dinosaurs would have escaped the blast radius.

Quote from: Gwangi
Despite those criticisms though the story isn't bad, much better than some of the movies I've seen lately and in many ways better than the third movie. I really think that if the film makers want to give their audience something new than somehow bringing dinosaurs to the mainland would be it. I also like the idea of having both Grant and Malcolm in a sequel. I would also love to see a Tyrannosaurs rip apart that damn Spinosaurus.  >:D

EDIT: John, if I'm not mistaken the Spinosaurs was Jack Horner's idea.

Believe it or not, I did not want the Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus to fight in the third movie. What's the point? If you want another theropod to chace after humans, fine, do it. But it's pointless to have the two fight, but since it's done, the public probably wants a rematch.

Thanks for your criticisms and comments. And I also think it would be great if Grant and Malcolm were both back. As for a reboot, I don't know. This story is already sort of a reboot anyway, with more authentec dinosaurs. If there were to be a reboot, then is should follow the first book more almost exactly. But, as I said, I don't think a reboot would be a worthwhile idea.


DinoLord

I think that having the "real" versions of dinosaurs could potentially be confusing to the mainstream audience, who don't really understand that the Ingen dinosaurs are mutated versions in the first place.

Takama

Must they reboot the film in any way. I have to say, NO.

Keep the continuity, just set it in the semi far future(I'm not talking Sufi Future)

and give some new characters with some new reasons for going to the island.

OR they could just Adapt Jurassic Park The Game to a Movie. in that case, secrets from the first film are revealed.

OR adapt Jurassic Park Redemption.

Either way, don't taint the sacred water Known as Jurassic Park 1

Joel

Quote from: DinoLord on June 23, 2012, 01:47:22 AM
I think that having the "real" versions of dinosaurs could potentially be confusing to the mainstream audience, who don't really understand that the Ingen dinosaurs are mutated versions in the first place.
Then it should be spelled out in the movie. This is also the main reason why In-Gen wants the "real" dinosaurs, because once word gets out that theirs are mutated, noone will visit their park. At least, not enough visitors to make the park profitable.

tyrantqueen

#24
QuoteIt should be noted that some of what happened in Jurassic Park 3 were demands that came from the executives from Hasbro.Think about it,the suddenly super smart Velociraptors who even go so far as to set traps for their victims and the aforementioned bigger,badder new Spinosaurus seemed to be there mainly to sell toys.Hasbro had even more ideas for a fourth movie as well,like the pack of weapons carrying Deinonychus that each had individual names.This was not the only time a toy company was involved in a movie production. "Batman and Robin" was another.
The mere mention of that movie is enough to send chills down the spine of any movie goer...

ihatefeathers144

To be honest, I couldn't care less about the possibility of Jurassic Park 4. Both sequels were pretty bad & the original has lost it's luster for me to the point I can't sit through it anymore. In my humble opinion a fresh start is needed. Re-boot the original & follow the novel more closely, though I can do without Ian Malcolm's long-winded diatribes from the book. A T-Rex-Spinosaurus rematch is just silly, even though I would love to see T-Rex bite his head off. A new cast, director, re-designed dinosaurs, & especially a new scientific advisor is just what the doctor ordered.

Paleona

There have been little teasers saying JP4 is in the works for years now... after the third installment I'm not all too thrilled with the possibility, really.  I'd still see it, though, of course. :3  At least they've (hopefully) ditched the idea of raptors with guns, that I heard about years ago...

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Sharptooth's recipe for a good JP4:

- Use Nublar as a main setting or at least as a starting point; we got enough of Sorna!
- Make the dinosaurs act as animals, not as monsters.
- dinosaurs are the good guys, at least in the first two movies they basically were the embodiment of Nature punishing man's arrogance... Supposedly heroic humans mowing down raptors trying to conquer the world and destroy mankind can work for a crappy b-movie, Jurassic Park is sure as hell more than that.
- Dodgson MUST return and his storyline must come to a close.
- Introduce new human characters (Levine perhaps?).
- Meeting some of the old characters can be good (older Tim), but meeting again ALL the cast surely not... Why, for example, Malcolm should be again face to face with a raptor?
- Continuity must be preserved... If raptors or T.rex sport feathers or a new dino appears out of nowhere it MUST be explained!
- Dinosaur point of view, at least for some scenes... Just to show these animals are intelligent and not merely organic machines.
- coherent and engaging story.
- happy ending (at least for dinosaurs).


Serve it with a rich merchandise, good trailers, and VOILA'!


8)




"I am the eyes in the night, the silence within the wind. I am the talons through the fire."

Aram-Rex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(franchise)#Jurassic_Park_IV     PEOPLE! I INSIST YOU READ THIS. IF EVERYTHING IS TRUE IN THIS LINK, THEN OUR DREAM WILL COME TRUE :')

tyrantqueen

Quote from: Aram-Rex on June 25, 2012, 10:25:49 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(franchise)#Jurassic_Park_IV     PEOPLE! I INSIST YOU READ THIS. IF EVERYTHING IS TRUE IN THIS LINK, THEN OUR DREAM WILL COME TRUE :')
Anyone can edit Wikipedia :-\

Aram-Rex

That does not mean that it's not true mate. The thing is everywhere I read about JP 4, It said that the script is being written so you have to believe ;)

tyrantqueen

Quote from: Aram-Rex on June 25, 2012, 11:33:04 PM
That does not mean that it's not true mate. The thing is everywhere I read about JP 4, It said that the script is being written so you have to believe ;)
No offense, but it doesn't mean anything. Wikipedia can be (and often is) edited by anyone and anybody. It said that it was being directed by Joe Johnston again. No thanks  *yuck*

Metallisuchus

One good solution to keeping the franchise alive without creating some ridiculous stories is to do something akin to what was done with "The Lion King" franchise - make a film that isn't exactly a sequel, but another side to the story. In other words, it could be set at the same time of JP1, but focusing on different areas of the park with a whole different set of characters, such as JP staff members.

As a huge fan of the first one, I can't help but want more, even though it will surely be crap. I just love to see the dinosaurs really, and everybody involved in the first film ended up being my favorite at what they do, from the cast to John Williams to Stan Winston to Michael Crichton. If it wasn't for the first film, my love of dinosaurs would've faded during early childhood like it does for most people.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day, the JP franchise went "Blair Witch" on us and did a 'shaky-camera' film.


Takama

Quote from: Metallisuchus on June 26, 2012, 03:09:10 AM
One good solution to keeping the franchise alive without creating some ridiculous stories is to do something akin to what was done with "The Lion King" franchise - make a film that isn't exactly a sequel, but another side to the story. In other words, it could be set at the same time of JP1, but focusing on different areas of the park with a whole different set of characters, such as JP staff members.

Thats almost like the JP Videiogame

tyrantqueen

#34
Quote from: Metallisuchus on June 26, 2012, 03:09:10 AM
One good solution to keeping the franchise alive without creating some ridiculous stories is to do something akin to what was done with "The Lion King" franchise - make a film that isn't exactly a sequel, but another side to the story. In other words, it could be set at the same time of JP1, but focusing on different areas of the park with a whole different set of characters, such as JP staff members.

As a huge fan of the first one, I can't help but want more, even though it will surely be crap. I just love to see the dinosaurs really, and everybody involved in the first film ended up being my favorite at what they do, from the cast to John Williams to Stan Winston to Michael Crichton. If it wasn't for the first film, my love of dinosaurs would've faded during early childhood like it does for most people.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day, the JP franchise went "Blair Witch" on us and did a 'shaky-camera' film.
The Lion King 1/2 was a terrible "movie" and waste of money... just no. The original Lion King was one my favourite childhood movies, and still one my favourite movies as an adult today.

Sorry, I just had to say it.

Aram-Rex

Quote from: Takama on June 26, 2012, 03:41:03 AM
Quote from: Metallisuchus on June 26, 2012, 03:09:10 AM
One good solution to keeping the franchise alive without creating some ridiculous stories is to do something akin to what was done with "The Lion King" franchise - make a film that isn't exactly a sequel, but another side to the story. In other words, it could be set at the same time of JP1, but focusing on different areas of the park with a whole different set of characters, such as JP staff members.

The same with me. The thing all of us have to do is keep up with the news and wait.


Metallisuchus

Quote from: tyrantqueen on June 26, 2012, 04:56:01 AM
Quote from: Metallisuchus on June 26, 2012, 03:09:10 AM
One good solution to keeping the franchise alive without creating some ridiculous stories is to do something akin to what was done with "The Lion King" franchise - make a film that isn't exactly a sequel, but another side to the story. In other words, it could be set at the same time of JP1, but focusing on different areas of the park with a whole different set of characters, such as JP staff members.

As a huge fan of the first one, I can't help but want more, even though it will surely be crap. I just love to see the dinosaurs really, and everybody involved in the first film ended up being my favorite at what they do, from the cast to John Williams to Stan Winston to Michael Crichton. If it wasn't for the first film, my love of dinosaurs would've faded during early childhood like it does for most people.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day, the JP franchise went "Blair Witch" on us and did a 'shaky-camera' film.
The Lion King 1/2 was a terrible "movie" and waste of money... just no. The original Lion King was one my favourite childhood movies, and still one my favourite movies as an adult today.

Sorry, I just had to say it.

I've never even seen that movie. Taking the same approach to JP wouldn't necessarily make it a bad movie though, is my point.

Gwangi

Some new news on JP4. The movie should be out by summer 2014, will not be a reboot or remake and may include animatronic dinosaurs.
http://www.themarysue.com/jurassic-park-4-in-2/

Metallisuchus

Thanks Gwangi. With a release date 2 years away, and knowing how shaky things have been in hopes of JP4, I'm not gonna hold my breath, I'll just read the news as it's released and hope they don't screw it up. But I have a feeling that Giganotosaurus may be making his JP debut.

tyrantqueen

#39
Quote from: Metallisuchus on July 21, 2012, 10:40:42 PM
Thanks Gwangi. With a release date 2 years away, and knowing how shaky things have been in hopes of JP4, I'm not gonna hold my breath, I'll just read the news as it's released and hope they don't screw it up. But I have a feeling that Giganotosaurus may be making his JP debut.
Just as long as the director doesn't pull a JP3 on us and make the Giga kill Tyrannosaurus. That would be really lame.

And everyone knows Rex could easily pwn Spiny and Giga...

I was really hoping it would be a reboot...:X

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