JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION

[Faelrin]

At least with some official 1080p footage we can get some better looks at some of this stuff now, however brief.

Not sure if this really needs to be spoiler tagged at this point, but just in case:

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So the Ankylosaurus are definitely using the same old design they've been using. Oh well. It seems like only the majority of the newest animals were attempted to be up to date, mostly, aside from the T. rex they went and gave feathers to for this sequence. Budget wise I guess I get that. Would be a lot of effort to recreate some of these from scratch only to use them for a few moments since the present day animals are going to be using the original/revised models anyways. I'm just hoping we get to see that more of that glorious Quetzalcoatlus in the final film, and more of the Iguanodon, perhaps little Moros as well.

And once again I am really digging the stripes/pattern they gave the Giganotosaurus. Such an interesting coloration for it.

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[Kapitaenosavrvs]

Hope to see Nanmu make a quetzacoatlus.

Now it gets interesting.

EDIT: Uh. Sorry for Doubleposting. A Mistake.

[Kapitaenosavrvs]

At least with some official 1080p footage we can get some better looks at some of this stuff now, however brief.

Not sure if this really needs to be spoiler tagged at this point, but just in case:

Spoiler

So the Ankylosaurus are definitely using the same old design they've been using. Oh well. It seems like only the majority of the newest animals were attempted to be up to date, mostly, aside from the T. rex they went and gave feathers to for this sequence. Budget wise I guess I get that. Would be a lot of effort to recreate some of these from scratch only to use them for a few moments since the present day animals are going to be using the original/revised models anyways. I'm just hoping we get to see that more of that glorious Quetzalcoatlus in the final film, and more of the Iguanodon, perhaps little Moros as well.

And once again I am really digging the stripes/pattern they gave the Giganotosaurus. Such an interesting coloration for it.

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And if they would have made a good and new T. rex Model for this scene like, let's say in the direction of the Sue Statue, imagine how it would be for the Franchise if the People actually like the new, accurate Version better than the T. rex everyone knows since almost 30 Years

I guess they would look like this:

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[Pachyrhinosaurus]

The Quetzalcoatlus looks fantastic! It really contrasts with the Jurassic World Pteranodon-- which in my opinion are the worst-designed animal in the entire franchise.

It's really back-and forth between accurate and stylized dinosaurs. I suppose the more Jurassic Park looking species are going to be featured later in the film while the accurate dinosaurs probably won't be.

[ITdactyl]

punk spikey look for Giggles might be wrong, but it's growing on me.

I wonder if they'll change the head on the quetz toy to match that movie design. Speaking of which, help a color blind brother out. What color is it?  All I see are shades of "orange" (probably just the lighting)....

[Faelrin]

Looking at the one on the far right corner, it kind of looks brown, with a pale (yellow?) beak. But yeah the tinted filter/lighting is making the true colorations a bit distorted and harder to discern if I had to guess.

[Stegotyranno420]

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The giga kind of reminds me of a zombie acrocanthosaurus

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[Carnoking]

I like these takes. Not the end all be all comment on the matter but it does largely reflect my own sentiments.

[stargatedalek]

Something a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that this franchise has always been baby steps in accuracy.

The first movie was baby steps in portraying dinosaurs with lifelike behaviours, but appearances that still didn't differ all that far from public perceptions and certainly weren't up to scientific standards of reconstructions at the time.

Lost World was baby steps in doing some of the herbivores accurate (for the time) but keeping the big name carnivores as recognizable character designs.

JP/// was an incredibly small baby step of technically sort of kind of but not at all really giving the raptors feathers.

Dominion is still a baby step towards accurate dinosaurs, but it's still the biggest step this franchise has taken yet.

[JohannesB]

I just hope my harsh opinions about the franchise will not be thought of as being toxic - but I guess I better keep most of them to myself, since they are just opinions (and we are just talking about entertainment). Anyway, even given its possible flaws (why depict the Mesozoic as a period where dinosaurs of different ages lived together? Why not just depict T. rexes fighting each other, for example, as they would?) I really want this movie to be good, with a good story and some serious good acting :-)

[Dynomikegojira]

So in other worlds the same it's just a movie excuse then I don't think some are acknowledging why people have valid complaints about the direction this franchise is heading so just one more time I'm gonna say why I'm worried. This prologue with time and location displaced species practically ruins what made Jurassic Park unique in the first place is that the only way a Tyrannosaurus could coexist with a Allosaurus is through the use of human technology to  bring them back to the modern world and so many other examples. The Triceratops scene in the first film illustrated that perfectly in that they had to make sure the Triceratops couldn't eat modern plants due to be incompatible with it's digestive system so the first film tried to be as scientifically plausible as it could and the other films have slowly abandoned that which has now lead to a Land Before Time fantasy land where evolutionary history and the diverse ecosystems each with it's unique dinosaurs can just be ignored. I may accept it since it is a movie that I'll most likely enjoy like I've enjoyed every Jurassic film but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna state the things that bother me and it's our right to state our opinions whether you agree or disagree. I expected better and that's why I'm disappointed and my right to state that.

[Carnoking]

You're totally welcome to have opinions! I certainly agree with you on that front, and I'm disappointed they went this direction too. For example, I would have loved a T. rex v Triceratops scene instead of a T. rex v Giga scene. I mean I think the former is the fight scene every kid did back in the day with their toys, and I've been wanting to see a big budget take on that titanic battle for years. Plus, it would have made sense for that prehistoric environment. But you know, movies have gotta movie and they decided they wanted a dramatic narrative through line wherein a rematch 65 million years in the making takes place with a new big bad therapod. I think they only way they could have had their cake and eaten it too would be if they had the JP rex lose to another rex in the Hell Creek formation, only for clone Rexy to take down the more accurate Biosyn clone of her original adversary in the present day. However, if that happened and you had JP rex defeating the more accurate clone, you would have had the same group of people up in arms as it would have been interpreted as the filmmakers saying "no, non-accurate really is better".
Personally, I don't care for that storyline, I think the whole rematch idea is a bit silly (like, if there's a moment of "recognition" between the clones, I'll scream) and it does lead to a great compromise of the integrity of that opening. Maybe they can sort of play it up in the film? Like have Dr. Grant and team dig up a previously undiscovered species of Giganotosaurus that made its way up to the Hell Creek Formation? It's a flimsy idea, but it might assuage some of the problem in the universe. I mean, let's not forget in the first movie they were digging up Velociraptors in Montana, so I guess that's not too far out of left field for the franchise.

All of that being said, there has been a sort of devolution in discord about the film as of late, and whereas it is fun to discuss this franchise, even among differing ideas, it's just gotten to the point where it's not anymore. It's just mean-spirited mud-slinging. There's room for good faith criticism and differing opinions, but we shouldn't let ourselves get so whipped into a frenzy that we compromise otherwise civil exchanges of ideas.

[Dynomikegojira]

You're totally welcome to have opinions! I certainly agree with you on that front, and I'm disappointed they went this direction too. For example, I would have loved a T. rex v Triceratops scene instead of a T. rex v Giga scene. I mean I think the former is the fight scene every kid did back in the day with their toys, and I've been wanting to see a big budget take on that titanic battle for years. Plus, it would have made sense for that prehistoric environment. But you know, movies have gotta movie and they decided they wanted a dramatic narrative through line wherein a rematch 65 million years in the making takes place with a new big bad therapod. I think they only way they could have had their cake and eaten it too would be if they had the JP rex lose to another rex in the Hell Creek formation, only for clone Rexy to take down the more accurate Biosyn clone of her original adversary in the present day. However, if that happened and you had JP rex defeating the more accurate clone, you would have had the same group of people up in arms as it would have been interpreted as the filmmakers saying "no, non-accurate really is better".
Personally, I don't care for that storyline, I think the whole rematch idea is a bit silly and it does lead to a great compromise of the integrity of that opening. Maybe they can sort of play it up in the film? Like have Dr. Grant and team dig up a previously undiscovered species of Giganotosaurus that made its way up to the Hell Creek Formation? It's a flimsy idea, but it might assuage some of the problem in the universe. I mean, let's not forget in the first movie they were digging up Velociraptors in Montana, so I guess that's not too far out of left field for the franchise.

All of that being said, there has been a sort of devolution in discord about the film as of late, and whereas it is fun to discuss this franchise, even among differing ideas, it's just gotten to the point where it's not anymore. It's just mean-spirited mud-slinging. There's room for good faith criticism and differing opinions, but we shouldn't let ourselves get so whipped into a frenzy that we compromise otherwise civil exchanges of ideas.

I agree with you, I'm all for civil discussion my only real complaint while it's not necessarily here but they are other sites where when you post something critical of the films because of lack of accuracy we are labeled toxic and I think it's shameful and weak. I understand it's just a movie and can deal with why they did it but that doesn't I'm not gonna roll my eyes at it although to their credit it was more natural than many of their other fights and I quite enjoyed it because of that. All in all I'm sure I'll enjoy it but if I do disagree with with a decision the make I will make it known and I'm glad that it not as much of an issue to you and can forgive it but me I'm not sure I can get over it for the reasons I've already stated.

[ITdactyl]

I will say this: Please DO post your opinions. You're not attacking anyone, you're just sharing your viewpoints.
At the same time, when I post my excitement for the film, know that I'm not doing so to invalidate your views. I'm simply expressing my own thoughts.

My thoughts about the franchise's ugly tango with "accuracy" using pterosaurs as an example.
- JP wimped out of the aviary sequence. It had pelicans though.
- TLW's beautiful but inaccurate Pteranodons were there for eye candy.  They didn't serve the story (at least they're not pelicans).
- JP3's Pteranodons were intentionally monsterized. The only talking point that relates to "accuracy" was the quadrupedal walk. The team wanted to get that right.
- JW's Dimorphodons were..ermm... "burn it with fire!"  The Pteranodons were similarly ugly BUT did anyone notice the beautiful dive animation they had during Zara's torture scene? They were moving through the water like gannets - the production team never brought that up, it was never discussed. It was a weird inconsistency; they were attacking people like giant eagles (grabbing with their hind legs) but when they got to the lagoon, they were diving for fish (or Zara).
- FK's pterosaurs are back to being background giant eagles (why they left coastal California for the Vegas Eiffel Tower replica, IDK)
- Then came Dominion. Oh man... background Pteranodons doing a "blink and you'll miss it" quad launch, or diving straight into the water from their cliff perch (like some auk on roids). And then the quetz enters from stage left. Oh Quetz, with your transluscent wings (aktinofibrils and other soft tissue would've made their wings look different) and your splayed gym-rat arms (fossil prints show pterodactyloids had a narrow gauge walk posture), well at least (as people say) you're properly fuzzy.

So yes, I can believe that they were taking SOME scientific advice, but their choices were still dominated by artistic license.

[KeU]

punk spikey look for Giggles might be wrong, but it's growing on me.
I wonder if they'll change the head on the quetz toy to match that movie design. Speaking of which, help a color blind brother out. What color is it?  All I see are shades of "orange" (probably just the lighting)....

Oh I am torn now.
Whether Giggles or Jiggy is a better name.....

[ITdactyl]

I'm sure it'll hate both nicknames... although (after that sneak peek) some people have started calling it G rex.

*researches: how to educate people on the proper use of scientific names and their abbreviations

[Shadowknight1]

I just want to see the real design for

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Pyroraptor

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, and then be let down by Mattel on every version of it.

[stargatedalek]

punk spikey look for Giggles might be wrong, but it's growing on me.
I wonder if they'll change the head on the quetz toy to match that movie design. Speaking of which, help a color blind brother out. What color is it?  All I see are shades of "orange" (probably just the lighting)....

Oh I am torn now.
Whether Giggles or Jiggy is a better name.....

I would avoid calling it Jiggy, if only because calling it "Jig-a-no-tosaurus" is such a pervasive mispronunciation. It should be "Jai-ga-no-to-saurus".

[KeU]

punk spikey look for Giggles might be wrong, but it's growing on me.
I wonder if they'll change the head on the quetz toy to match that movie design. Speaking of which, help a color blind brother out. What color is it?  All I see are shades of "orange" (probably just the lighting)....

Oh I am torn now.
Whether Giggles or Jiggy is a better name.....

I would avoid calling it Jiggy, if only because calling it "Jig-a-no-tosaurus" is such a pervasive mispronunciation. It should be "Jai-ga-no-to-saurus".

I think the actual pronunciation is Jig-A-No-To-Sau-Rus.
And not the usual way of pronouncing Gigantic.

[stargatedalek]

punk spikey look for Giggles might be wrong, but it's growing on me.
I wonder if they'll change the head on the quetz toy to match that movie design. Speaking of which, help a color blind brother out. What color is it?  All I see are shades of "orange" (probably just the lighting)....

Oh I am torn now.
Whether Giggles or Jiggy is a better name.....

I would avoid calling it Jiggy, if only because calling it "Jig-a-no-tosaurus" is such a pervasive mispronunciation. It should be "Jai-ga-no-to-saurus".

I think the actual pronunciation is Jig-A-No-To-Sau-Rus.
And not the usual way of pronouncing Gigantic.

Nope.

It's Greek, not Latin. The usual Latin pronunciation would be "gig-a-no-to-saurus", like in "gig-a-bite", but in Greek it should be "jai" like high or sky. Wikipedia sounds it out as "jy-ga" which was an extremely poor choice oh spelling and I wouldn't be surprised if that alone is responsible for a lot of people thinking it's pronounced "jig", as in fishing.