Possible scale issue on Mattel Spinosaurus

[Bobcole884]

Hi everyone, I'm new here, actually other than Gamefaqs.com this is the first time I've ever posted on a blog or anything like this as far as I know but I am a super huge dinosaur fan and have been for over 25 years of my 30 year old life, my obsession with them actually started before JP1 back in 1993, I may not be super familiar with a lot of their names or time periods but I love the ones I do know about

     I kinda wanted to introduce myself as I am new here but honestly, the real reason I went through the trouble of signing up on this website (love Dino's, but hate using tech) is because of the noticeable (to me at least) size/scaling issue I see with Mattels announced Spinosaurus from JP3. I am really trying to reach out to everyone in hopes that they'll not let the excitement of this toy being released fog their judgement on the issue that can be seen for itself.

     Ok, one, has anyone noticed that there are still no images of the Spino standing next to the T Rex toy? Or ANY other dinosaur toy for that matter? If you really take the boxed "unopened" product images, it takes a little examination but it's fairly plain to see that the Spino is not as big as the Rex, it should be bigger but as big would be acceptable. TWO, I don't know about you guys, I like the Legacy Rexy, but I think the Thrash n Throw Rexy is more size accurate in comparison to the rest of the toy line.

     I hope I'm wrong about this toy and I'm being hopeful because Mattel so far has done a really good job with scaling on most of the entire line, but unless it's actual box/package is bigger than Legacy Rex's, the only thing it has that makes it look big enough is the sail on its back, try to imagine the Spino without the sail and your going to have a dinosaur that won't be much larger than the Carnotaurus figure. Please send this message to everyone you know and let Mattel know that this is not acceptable. I'm going to try to post a side by side image from my phone but I'm not too tech savvy, if anyone would for me id appreciate it. Cmon guys, please PLEASE don't let Mattel make the Spinosaurus smaller than the SMALLEST Trex in the whole line!!

[Cretaceous Crab]

I'm inclined to agree with you about the scale, but I'm fairly certain thr production and packaging process is already completed. This Spinosaurus is merely awaiting distribution at this point. I highly doubt sharing and petition is going to make Mattel pull them all back and remake thousands of products they know they will sell.

Personally, it doesn't bother me as much and I plan to get one for my son.

[suspsy]

At this point, the Spinosaurus is well into production. If you tell Mattel customer service that the toy is "unacceptable," their response is going to be along the lines of "We are sorry to hear you feel that way. Thank you for your input. We appreciate it." But that will be their only response.

[Dilopho]

It's a pretty cheap action figure of spinosaurus that , though small, is already gonna be bigger than most figures for the price.

I'm curious, how can you tell it'll be smaller than the rex?

[Bobcole884]

Wow I thought I'd get a little bit of a response considering I'm on a website about nothing but dinosaur toys, just because it's already been made doesn't have to rush and go buy it!! Please everyone actions can speak, let Mattel know they should make a SECOND one that IS to scale. I know I'm not the only person in the whole entire universe that is bothered by this. 

[CityRaptor]

Uh, yeah, here is the thing: You think that not buying it will send a signal that they should make a bigger one, but the signal it will really send is that Spinosaurus does not sell.

How can you even tell the size without something for scale? Keep in mind that the box might be differently sized than the one of the EC Rex.

[Ravonium]

Wow I thought I'd get a little bit of a response considering I'm on a website about nothing but dinosaur toys, just because it's already been made doesn't have to rush and go buy it!!

No-one here has said that you have to buy the current version.

They've just said the truth; that Mattel is unlikely to listen to you. I doubt they think of your demographic as the target audience for these toys. Mattel is a conglomerate, and JWFK is just one of many labels under their belt. They are not a niche-orientated company who cares about scale accuracy. I'd also like to note that this is not the only example of Mattel continuing plans amidst heavy backlash from fans who aren't in the target audience.

[Faelrin]

It's probably going to be about the same size as the Extreme Chomping T. rex, so not quite in scale, but hardly a big deal for me (and I imagine most other people), since it will be nice to have another near film accurate medium or large Spinosaurus toy after all this time, especially considering how much the JPIII animatronic one goes for. While it would be nice to have one that's more to scale like the Thrash and Throw T. rex (maybe even electronic), I'm absolutely fine with this one, since I'm pretty much planning on getting the EC rexy at this point. I mean it's not like the small basher and biter one Hasbro made (or even the small JPIII ones). I honestly think we are lucky they are making one at all (plus the other Legacy Collection figures).

I do think asking for a larger (electronic) Thrash and Throw-like Spinosaurus might be a good idea. I mean I'd still like to see them do things like the Indominus rex (EC or Thrash and Throw styled), Parasaurolophus, and Apatosaurus and Brachiosaurus, so I wouldn't be against a larger (electronic) Spinosaurus. I don't know if they take product recommendations though, even if the demand is there (although us collector's are not the majority buying these toys, or at least I would think).

[MLMjp]

I have to disagree with a lot of what has been stated here

Things I have to say:

1-Obviously there are not images of the Spino standing with a T.rex because it was one the last announced toys from this toy line, so the only have shown some promotional images of the toy, besides they don't have to show you comparison pictures of every single dinosaurs. Also the toy has not been released yet, so obviously not even collector could post comparison pictures.

2-Just because it has the exact name as the T.res it does not mean it has to be the same size as the T.rex, Just take a look at the sculpt, complete different detail, body part, the Spino is not a retool.

If you really take the boxed "unopened" product images, it takes a little examination but it's fairly plain to see that the Spino is not as big as the Rex, it should be bigger but as big would be acceptable. TWO, I don't know about you guys, I like the Legacy Rexy, but I think the Thrash n Throw Rexy is more size accurate in comparison to the rest of the toy line.
I'm going to try to post a side by side image from my phone but I'm not too tech savvy, if anyone would for me id appreciate it. Cmon guys, please PLEASE don't let Mattel make the Spinosaurus smaller than the SMALLEST Trex in the whole line!!

3-SERIOUSLY?! You think it is smaller that the Extreme Chompin rex??!!! Honestly I think I can blame your little examination for that mistake. I mean c´mon, both packaged and un-packed promotional images of EC T.rex and EC Spino make the Spino look bigger in every way.
Boxed pictures: I have adjusted them so the boxes have the exact same wideness. To me the Spino box CLEARLY looks taller than the T.rex box. Besides we don't know the exact size of the boxes until we have them in hand.


Unboxed pictures:

Look at the legs of the Spino, those are clearly longer that the T.rex, hence why the packaging is taller. I personally think the Spinosaurus is going to be as big or at least as tall as the Thrash n´Throw T.rex, It just happens that it has a more compact package due to having a removable tail.

I think you should wait until you see the actual figure and see some comparison pictures before ranting about it and make pointless petitions and polls.

PD: I found even more evidence that is bigger, Spinosaurus is more expensive than T.rex:
https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toys/action-figures-and-playsets/jurassic-world/jurassic-world-legacy-collection-extreme-chompin-tyrannosaurus-rex/p/164322
https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toys/action-figures-and-playsets/jurassic-world/jurassic-world-spinosaurus/p/166544

[Bobcole884]

MLMjp if you'll look closely the camera angle is a little different on both boxes (thanks btw for posting the pics) they positioned the camera up a little higher on the Spino making its box appear a little bigger, and I'm not even saying they meant that, but look closely at the body and head of the Rex, her head is a little harder to compare but the Rex's body is nearly as thick as the Spinosaurus' SAIL included!! Imagine the sail not there and maybe that'll help, I even went crazy obsessed fan overkill and used used a precision instrument (I work in construction) called a micrometer. Between having an eye from collecting this stuff and the work I do I would be willing to bet good money this figure will be noticeably smaller than the T Rex, the T Rex in which itself is a little small.

It may not happen soon but if everyone wishes in the future to have a nice looking Spino, please let Mattel know. It will NEVER happen so long as long as everyone's attitude is "they won't listen" or "we're lucky to get what we get" or "I don't care"

Look at hasbro, it may have took since 2003, but they finally lost the liscense altogether because people wanted better. And what I'm asking isn't even a big deal, it's not in the same ball park as what happened to Hasbro. I just want a bigger Spino, Mattel has made at least 5 different versions of the T Rex, I don't think it will hurt to ask for ONE MORE SPINO, look at the popularity of the dinosaur now.

[MLMjp]

MLMjp if you'll look closely the camera angle is a little different on both boxes (thanks btw for posting the pics) they positioned the camera up a little higher on the Spino making its box appear a little bigger, and I'm not even saying they meant that, but look closely at the body and head of the Rex, her head is a little harder to compare but the Rex's body is nearly as thick as the Spinosaurus' SAIL included!! Imagine the sail not there and maybe that'll help, I even went crazy obsessed fan overkill and used used a precision instrument (I work in construction) called a micrometer. Between having an eye from collecting this stuff and the work I do I would be willing to bet good money this figure will be noticeably smaller than the T Rex, the T Rex in which itself is a little small.

It may not happen soon but if everyone wishes in the future to have a nice looking Spino, please let Mattel know. It will NEVER happen so long as long as everyone's attitude is "they won't listen" or "we're lucky to get what we get" or "I don't care"

Look at hasbro, it may have took since 2003, but they finally lost the liscense altogether because people wanted better. And what I'm asking isn't even a big deal, it's not in the same ball park as what happened to Hasbro. I just want a bigger Spino, Mattel has made at least 5 different versions of the T Rex, I don't think it will hurt to ask for ONE MORE SPINO, look at the popularity of the dinosaur now.

Like I said we don't know how big the box and the dinosaur is in real life, it could be wider than the T.rex box. We can't say anything until we see the actual thin in person. Besides, even if the angle on the Spino is different, you can clearly see the actual top of the box is still taller. I just think is too early to complain. If the actual figure is not big enough, then we will talk

[Bobcole884]

Fair enough, it's not even out yet, I hope I'm wrong and I plainly admitted that in my original first ever post on this site, but it is an extreme chomping figure in the target ONLY line which tells me it still MOST LIKELY be a little small when compared to the entire rest of the line, EC T Rex is already guilty of being on the small side. Idk, I guess I was hoping be addressing this early it might be better.

I don't exactly wish for the Legacy Spino to be messed with as it is too late now, but what in the world can it hurt to ask for one in the thrash n throw line? The way I see it, it would maybe work out okay, the Spino was estimated at 50ft long while the Rex was at 40ft long, take that and throw in a sail on the Spino and the Dino should appear noticeably larger.

What I am getting at is take Hasbros 50ft Indominus Rex (Thrash and Throw size figure) and a Thrash n Throw Spino (another 50ft Dino) and display them with the smaller Extreme Chomping T Rex (a 40ft dinosaur) and you've got all 3 of Jurassic Parks main big monsters. Even though I like the overall scale of the T n T Trex I still think that would look much nicer than with an Extreme Chomping sized Spino would look. I don't think that would be too much to ask of Mattel if everyone just would take a few minutes of their time and make this request, a Thrash n Throw Spino

[Cretaceous Crab]

Does anyone here actually OWN this Spinosaurus figure along with the LC EC Rex so that an ACTUAL side-by-side photo can be taken to verify these concerns?

[Sim]

I'm not interested in Jurassic World toys.  (Although I like that Herrerasaurus was made for the line by Mattel.  I wish Safari Ltd would make a Herrerasaurus.)  I'm posting here because I noticed the page MLMjp linked to for the Spinosaurus gives dimensions for that toy.  I don't know if the measurements are correct, or if they are for when it's in or out of the box.  If the size of the Tyrannosaurus toy is known, perhaps it might be of interest to compare it with the size given for the Spinosaurus toy?

[Dilopho]

Does anyone here actually OWN this Spinosaurus figure along with the LC EC Rex so that an ACTUAL side-by-side photo can be taken to verify these concerns?

It's not out yet.

[PumperKrickel]

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[Reptilia]

Just looking at both promo pictures with the hand you can tell the Spinosaurus is slightly bigger. But then I guess the price is the main evidence, if they were exactly the same they couldn't have charged 5 more for the Spinosaurus.

[Cretaceous Crab]

Does anyone here actually OWN this Spinosaurus figure along with the LC EC Rex so that an ACTUAL side-by-side photo can be taken to verify these concerns?

It's not out yet.

My point exactly.

[Faelrin]

I find it interesting in the Smyths link it lists the dimensions for the Spinosaurus toy as 53L x 15w x 24 H (in cm), or about 21L x 6W x 9H (in inches). I have the Extreme Chomping Tyrannosaurus. The Extreme Chomping Tyrannosaurus is about 50L x 10W x 19H (in cm), or 20L x 4W x 7.5H (in inches) if my measurements aren't too off (I use an online ruler on my laptop screen, and google's inches to cm conversions). So the Spinosaurus is going to be bigger, in that it's slightly longer (tail and snout length probably), is a bit wider (probably due to being bigger then the EC Tyrannosaurus), and is taller (sail and leg height probably). So yeah still not in scale in the sense the Thrash and Throw is, but it does seem to be bigger then the EC Tyrannosaurus by a bit.

With the slight price increase of the Spinosaurus, it is safe to say it is a bit bigger (along with the measurements), then the EC Tyrannosaurus. That's good enough for me in all honesty (although I was planning to get it to begin with, I'm glad to see it'll be a bit bigger then the EC Tyrannosaurus).

Edit: Upon closer inspection, even though both the packaging on the EC Tyrannosaurus and EC Spinosaurus are at different angles, the boxes are actually different in their shaping. There's extra space between the logo and Tyrannosaurus head, which probably means the packaging is taller too. The top right corner also is noticeably taller on the Spinosaurus box, then it is on the EC Tyrannosaurus box (which I have in hand).

Edit 2: Well there it is.

[CityRaptor]

This was posted at JPToys:

Look like it is in scale with the Extreme Chomping Rex.