David Silva's Beasts of the Mesozoic: Ceratopsian Series - WAVE TWO SHIPPING!

[Faelrin]

Maybe the final production figures could be resized? I vaguely recall something along those lines needed to be done with the raptors. You certainly are not the only one with that concern about them being too big for 1/18 scale though. I've certainly seen others on the kickstarter comments mention that (or at least in the comments of one of the updates). Perhaps a list of which ones are too big for 1/18 scale could be compiled and then forwarded, again assuming it is possible to resize the sculpts during production?

[stegosauria]

I don't want to be the one who shoot the enthusiasm down but guys, take it a little easier. This thread is for the ceratopsian line. I think for future lines (ideas, hopes, estimates etc.) we can open a new thread.

And second: the ceratopsian line get just funded. The first figures will be made in one year and the last ones in two years hopefully. Then David plans doing the Tyrannosaur line and that will take probably another 2-3 years. But many here are already hoping/planning/speculating what David should do after that so some 4-6 years later. I don't think that's good. David works a full-time job, has the Creative Beast Studio and the BotM lines to manage, to plan, to sculpt figures etc. He's not Superman.  It's not fair to create so much expectation towards him. If something won't turn out the way many wanted they would get just disappointed (see the ceratopsian line) and would put too much pressure on David. I browsed the photos in Creative Beast's Facebook site and I saw the difference in David's features between 2011 and now. It's quite noticable. He works hard and doesn't need more pressure.

So I just wanted to say that we have to wait for the ceratopsian figures 1-2 years. I think that's enough for now (we didn't even see the last 3 figures painted up) and it doesn't make much sense this much speculation in the now far future.

[suspsy]

I still think pterosaurs are a little too ambitious in terms of getting enough joints in the wings to pull off a proper walking pose. I have been thinking more about a potential hadrosaur series after what Halichoeres said, and I think it could be successful in the end, although I reckon big boys like Shantungosaurus and Magnapaulia would run into the exact same funding problems as the Torosaurus and mature Triceratops are currently facing.

[stargatedalek]

I have many Mattel and Hasbro pterosaurs, and while the articulation certainly looks decent for what they are, it would not be possible to use these same joints to achieve articulation that would look at the level of quality expected from this line. The only way to make convincing walking poses is to have swap-able wings.

[Appalachiosaurus]

Well I'm certainly not a professional, and we don't have specific measurements, but these all look 1:18 to me. Remember that the Mattel humans are closer to 1:20 so they aren't perfect for comparison.

[Cretaceous Crab]

I agree. There's so much variation of proportions within a population of extant animals that I don't get caught up with having exact/precise scale models to certain figures. I can understand if someone is trying to make an exact scale to a specific fossil specimen, but beyond that, it all boils down to some approximation. At the end of the day, they're toys.

[Dinoguy2]

I agree. There's so much variation of proportions within a population of extant animals that I don't get caught up with having exact/precise scale models to certain figures. I can understand if someone is trying to make an exact scale to a specific fossil specimen, but beyond that, it all boils down to some approximation. At the end of the day, they're toys.

I agree, but I think a big part of this scale issue has been the fact that these figures are enormous, and if they were closer to advertised scale, or if they were a little too small instead of a little too big, they could have been cheaper.

[ZoPteryx]

As these are so far out of scale with the rest of my collection, what scale they actually are doesn't really bother me.  I am concerned with how well they scale with each other though.  Has anyone done the math on that?

[Agen Kolar]

As these are so far out of scale with the rest of my collection, what scale they actually are doesn't really bother me.  I am concerned with how well they scale with each other though.  Has anyone done the math on that?

Well, they're not all correctly scaled, if that's what you're asking. For example Centrosaurus is far larger than it should be. It should've been only slightly larger than Einiosaurus, instead of nearly in scale with Pachyrhinosaurus.

[ZoPteryx]

As these are so far out of scale with the rest of my collection, what scale they actually are doesn't really bother me.  I am concerned with how well they scale with each other though.  Has anyone done the math on that?

Well, they're not all correctly scaled, if that's what you're asking. For example Centrosaurus is far larger than it should be. It should've been only slightly larger than Einiosaurus, instead of nearly in scale with Pachyrhinosaurus.

Yep, that's what I was looking for.  Shame about the Centrosaurus, that was one I was strongly considering.

[Shonisaurus]

As these are so far out of scale with the rest of my collection, what scale they actually are doesn't really bother me.  I am concerned with how well they scale with each other though.  Has anyone done the math on that?

Well, they're not all correctly scaled, if that's what you're asking. For example Centrosaurus is far larger than it should be. It should've been only slightly larger than Einiosaurus, instead of nearly in scale with Pachyrhinosaurus.

Yep, that's what I was looking for.  Shame about the Centrosaurus, that was one I was strongly considering.

In my case I prefer dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals of small or medium size in real life without scales and in a large size, although the centrosaurus obviously if it is the same size as the pachyrhinosaurus will become very expensive as is logical. I am a follower of non-stop figures, it is perhaps an unpopular opinion of mine that should be included in the corresponding thread.
In any case, the BoTM centrosaurus with or without scales is a very pretty figure as is the rest of the BoTM ceraptoside collection.

[Dinoguy2]

Yeah, at the end of the day the scale of these doesn't matter, except with each other. But the bottom line is each figure could easily have been smaller and cheaper, encouraging people to buy multiples. There is no reason to make them as big as they are. A Triceratops figure the size of a small dog is nonsensical. I was focusing on scale only because having them in scale with 1/18 action figures is the reason David gave for making them this large, but they're not even in scale with 1/18 action figures.

I ended up only buying 1, because they're just very expensive. The one I got (Monoclonius) could easily have been made half the size and price, and still been in 1/18 scale. Then maybe I'd have bought 2... I really like the "juvenile" Triceratops, which actually is 1/18 scale if you assume a mid-sized to average adult.

[LeapingLaelaps]

The pre-order store and Backerkit survey's have just gone out this morning!

For anyone who missed the update, we can now unlock more stretch goals with the survey's and Backerkit pre-order store! We've actually almost unlocked Wendiceratops already, and you can also pre-order the locked stretch goals (Pachyrhinosaurus, Torosaurus, etc)!

For all the information you can read David's latest Kickstarter update here

[Digibasherx]

Not sure how the dinos that hasn't been unlocked works, because I've placed the order for the adult trike, but does that mean I wouldn't be charged if it doesn't get unlocked?  Or will there be time for me to update and  lower the amount later on?  Kinda confused with this one.

Ok, re-reading the kickstarter: Looks like anything not unlocked won't be charged.  So that's good that we have a chance to "back" anything that wasn't unlocked during the campaign.  Still though, I hope the Adult Trike gets unlocked, that looks like a monster of a figure.

[Ravonium]

Looks like the Wendiceratops has already been unlocked with Backerkit 

[Faelrin]

In case anyone isn't aware, backerkit can now take paypal payments.

If anyone else selected the print and wants figures too you'll need to switch your pledge reward in the backerkit survey (which I did).

Over $300,000 raised now with this way to unlocked stretch goals through backerkit pre-orders. I hope this means the rest will eventually get unlocked. I won't be able to get any of the big ones I want just yet (if unlocked), but maybe some time I can get them in the future, otherwise I am fine with what I can get now.

Edit: Centrosaurus stretch goal funded now! Over $320,000 raised now. I've since gone back and added the Centrosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus and pin to my survey order. Next up is the Pachyrhinosaurus.

I'm also glad I won't have to pay for the Centrosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus when the backerkit survey is locked down, since only the kickstarter funded items will be charged in December (if they were not paid for already during the campaign). I'll only need to pay for the Protoceratops & Psittacosaurus bundle, the Diabloceratops, and the Regaliceratops, and the pin when December rolls around (give or take any additional shipping amount), in addition to what I spent at the end of the campaign for the print, all three post card sets, and the first four figure bundle (with Zuniceratops, Monoclonius, sub adult Triceratops, and Styracosaurus). Worst case scenario I'll probably drop the Diabloceratops and pay for that later, since it is the cheapest of the bunch I want to add on currently. I'll probably wait until later to cover the cost of the Einiosaurus, and Spiclypeus too since they are also cheaper, even if their price will go up later.

If any of the larger figures after the Pachyrhinosaurus get funded (specifically the Sinoceratops, Pentaceratops, and adult Triceratops), I'll probably wait to get them before they are planned to ship, if not after.

[Halichoeres]

In addition to the Wendiceratops and Centrosaurus, the Pachyrhinosaurus has now been unlocked. I'm particularly excited for the Centrosaurus.

[Faelrin]

I'm so happy both the Centrosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus have been funded now. Next up is the Xenoceratops at $360,000. This whole backerkit and pre order thing has been moving along great so far. It's already raised over $70,000, in addition to the over $270,000 the kickstarter was able to raise.

[ceratopsian]

Somehow I added quite a few more models to my Backerkit survey than originally planned: to the sub-adult Trike and Zuniceratops of my original pledge, I have added Monoclonius, Wendiceratops, Spiclypeus, Avaceratops - and Albertaceratops and Sinoceratops.  Plus the full set of art cards.  They all looked so tempting as I browsed.  Let's see what else ends up unlocked!

[Faelrin]

Xenoceratops has finally been unlocked, which is especially nice as it was the first prototype created.


Edit: New pledge tier created for those who backed the kickstarter but are only interested in the figures unlocked through backerkit. This is good for those who are only interested in the Wendiceratops, Centrosaurus, Pachyrhinosaurus, Xenocwratops, etc (such as the adult Triceratops if it gets unlocked).


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/creativebeast/beasts-of-the-mesozoic-ceratopsian-series-action-figures/posts/2676720