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JURASSIC WORLD: CAMP CRETACEOUS?

Started by dragon53, March 21, 2019, 05:04:52 PM

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Bread

I am new to this show, but does this not open some plot holes for the franchise? For example, Fallen Kingdom, they could not transport these animals to the other island then? The idea of lost hope for the dinosaurs was in the air for the first part of the movie, and the only way would be to transport them to the mainland? Just a little confused on how they are going to do this.

CityRaptor

Actually not. Originally it was planned to transport them to a sancutary island. They only arrived on the main land due to sabotage since Mills planned to sell them in order to finance his projects. It's unknown what happened to Sorna, but we may find out.
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GojiraGuy1954

Quote from: CityRaptor on October 16, 2021, 02:55:02 PM
Actually not. Originally it was planned to transport them to a sancutary island. They only arrived on the main land due to sabotage since Mills planned to sell them in order to finance his projects. It's unknown what happened to Sorna, but we may find out.
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Quote from: GojiraGuy1954 on October 16, 2021, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: CityRaptor on October 16, 2021, 02:55:02 PM
Actually not. Originally it was planned to transport them to a sancutary island. They only arrived on the main land due to sabotage since Mills planned to sell them in order to finance his projects. It's unknown what happened to Sorna, but we may find out.
Sanctuary was a fake island
Fake as an artificial or never existed? It did exist, they just planned to steal the dinosaurs instead of deliver them there.

Bread

Looking back at the clip of the "fake island" shown through a hologram of some sort, they never mentioned it to be Sorna, plus it was not the shame of Sorna. Also, thank you for the clarification, I completely forgot about the lie of the animals being transported to an island

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Faelrin

Something important is coming back (putting this under a spoiler tag):
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The Spinosaurus! Also Kentrosaurus is joining the roster too apparently? I guess that may explain the Mattel toys of both of these this year.
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Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Blade-of-the-Moon

And maybe another throwback as well I've heard.

I actually thought the teaser image for the ___nosaurus might just be a holographic projection by all those drones in the same pic..

Faelrin

New trailer dropped earlier today. Link in spoiler:
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My thoughts:
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Honestly feels like they uh jumped the Mosasaurus with this one. Some of the stuff here feels out of place, such as the robot dog. Hope they have good explanations for this stuff, especially if it is tying to Dominion in any way, like Trevorrow hinted at earlier.

Gotta say I am surprised to see Smilodon of all things. Wonder where the toy for that is? Hopefully coming next year. Granted if we knew about it now that would have spoiled its surprise in the show for sure. Kentrosaurus was a little ambiguous earlier on, but with the final packaging it has, it's more obvious now. Guess I gotta go and update the Mattel film canon + other species toy list (aside from some other needed updates).

Also not a fan of the generic JWE 1 styled raptors. Though we've seen these as far back as the original teaser for the show.

I am still excited to see Spinosaurus again after all this time though. I really do hope they handle it well here.
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Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Pachyrhinosaurus

I don't watch Camp Cretaceous (or subscribe to Netflix/streaming services) but it's great to see that smilodon has finally made it to the Jurassic Park franchise! I always thought that if they were going to add prehistoric mammals, it would be smilodon. Especially since they've been referenced as far back as the original film. I always envisioned a JP smilodon as S. populator, resembling Charles Knight's painting. The stripes are a little too tiger-esque. I hope we get to see one in Dominion, though.

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Uff...very mixed feelings about this...

I have to agree with avatar_Faelrin @Faelrin, they jumped the Mosasaurus with some of the stuff here.

Robotic dogs? Ugh... Those panels capable of generating fake environments and camouflage objects? WHAT?!

If any of this stuff appears in dominion...We are gonna have a problem...

On the good stuff, seems like the campers are gonna end in some sort of hidden research facility in which they are doing some questionable testings, which sounds interesting. And of course, Spinosaurus.

And sorry, but I just don't like the fact we saw a Smilodon in this. The Jurassic Park/World franchise is about mesozoic creatures, I don´t want prehistoric mammals.


Blade-of-the-Moon

I'm good with it all. A possible animal testing facility run by Mantah Corp. is Wu involved? Someone else? Lots of questions that needs answers which is good story wise.

A Smilodon is cool, mammals were mentioned in S1. A lot of fans have requested them for years. 


Gwangi

I was expecting them to end up on Sorna but everything else is a complete surprise, and definitely unexpected. I'm definitely intrigued.

HD-man

Quote from: Faelrin on November 10, 2021, 09:01:51 PMNew trailer dropped earlier today. Link in spoiler:
Spoiler

My thoughts:
Spoiler
Honestly feels like they uh jumped the Mosasaurus with this one. Some of the stuff here feels out of place, such as the robot dog. Hope they have good explanations for this stuff, especially if it is tying to Dominion in any way, like Trevorrow hinted at earlier.

Gotta say I am surprised to see Smilodon of all things. Wonder where the toy for that is? Hopefully coming next year. Granted if we knew about it now that would have spoiled its surprise in the show for sure. Kentrosaurus was a little ambiguous earlier on, but with the final packaging it has, it's more obvious now. Guess I gotta go and update the Mattel film canon + other species toy list (aside from some other needed updates).

Also not a fan of the generic JWE 1 styled raptors. Though we've seen these as far back as the original teaser for the show.

I am still excited to see Spinosaurus again after all this time though. I really do hope they handle it well here.
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That's what a proper JW trailer looks like (as opposed to the JWFK trailer): Just a taste of what's to come, not so much that it spoils your dinner, like a free sample!

As for the 2nd spoiler, we had human cloning confirmed in JWFK. W/that in mind, how is something only slightly more advanced than real life jumping the shark/Mosasaurus, especially given the tech we've seen in CC so far?: https://www.bostondynamics.com/solutions/inspection

Quote from: MLMjp on November 10, 2021, 09:46:58 PMAnd sorry, but I just don't like the fact we saw a Smilodon in this. The Jurassic Park/World franchise is about mesozoic creatures, I don´t want prehistoric mammals.

If the JP/JW franchise can have Paleozoic proto-mammals like Dimetrodon & Lystrosaurus, why not Ice Age mammals like sabercats & mammoths?
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CityRaptor

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I agree with H @HD-man. While I'm not a fan of mammals, cloning them would not be out of the question. I mean, human clones have been confirmed, there is gonna be a certain proto-mammal in Dominion, so why wouldn't Mantah Corp clone something like a Smilodon? Besides, InGen attempting to clone Mammoths seems very likely:
https://jurassicpark.fandom.com/wiki/Woolly_Mammoth#Jurassic_World:_Camp_Cretaceous
https://jurassicpark.fandom.com/wiki/Martel

And yes, the JP Universe has always been a bit ahead of real life, hasn't it?

Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Faelrin

H @HD-man

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Right. I forgot Boston Dynamics and their tech exists. Still feels a bit out of place to me in a Jurassic film, not that it isn't possible, because it's not really something ever used in any of these films. The invisible building though? I feel like that's pushing it however. It doesn't feel as grounded to me.

The Smilodon I have no issue with. It would be far easier to bring that back, then a dinosaur for example (if possible as it is in the films). Additionally there's been at least some fan's desiring ice age animals in the franchise as far back as JW released. There was also a skeleton, or at least a skull of it featured in the Lockwood Manor set from the last film, and the first film had a plushie of it in the gift shop section of the visitor center.
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avatar_CityRaptor @CityRaptor I think I vaguely recall coming across that stuff from way back. I also forgot about that mammoth stuff from season 1. I wonder if we'll see any in the next season as well?
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Bread

Conveniently I just finished watching the show, and now there is a trailer for season 4.
Yeah I am not happy about what I see in the trailer.
Spoiler

-Not a fan of the prehistoric mammals addition, so far just a smilodon, but I am going to assume we'll see other prehistoric mammals. Would be odd if we didn't. Also, never mentioned why I dislike this idea, but its mainly the issue of these never being present in the franchise.
-Not a fan of the robot dog? Yes you can argue that it is plausible as this franchise has already shown its technological advancements; however this just seems so out of place? Maybe it is just me.
-Sorry for those who love the addition of the Spinosaurus, but I am not a fan of it. Again, seems out of place and wasn't it confirmed to have died from its wounds due to the river fire? Yes there could be a second Spinosaurus, but again my point is, it seems out of place.
-Another Tyrannosaurus, I wonder if it is the Buck or a whole new rex? One of the characters referred to it as a female but it has the coloration of the male. Maybe it could have just been the editing of the audio that took place during which we saw the rex. Honestly this part excites me a little as I love the Buck, but still have mix feelings about this whole thing and I'll get to that next.
-Not a fan of this whole idea the second island exists again! Ugh... wasn't it confirmed that JW would only acknowledge the first island and first movie? I thought this new franchise was ignoring site B movies and plot entirely? This really confuses me, plus there is no mentioning of this island entirely in JW or JWFK. Certainly Claire must have known about this island, followed by Dr. Wu himself, too.

Sorry if this seems negative in a way towards the show. I feel like this season is really just to please the fans and the constant request of previous dinosaurs in other films to be showed. I am just really confused with this JW franchise now, which yes includes the show. Maybe my opinion will change when this season is released but for now it is unappealing based off the trailer.
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Blade-of-the-Moon

JW had some pretty high tech elements in it, the Gyrospheres, the advanced hologram tech, cloning in general.

Prehistoric mammals should be pretty simple to clone compared to a dinosaur. We have lots of DNA fragments even sperm and eggs as I recall for some.  It's likely our own world would clone a mammoth before a dinosaur for example.

CityRaptor

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Quote from: Bread on November 11, 2021, 02:40:47 AM
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-Not a fan of this whole idea the second island exists again! Ugh... wasn't it confirmed that JW would only acknowledge the first island and first movie? I thought this new franchise was ignoring site B movies and plot entirely? This really confuses me, plus there is no mentioning of this island entirely in JW or JWFK. Certainly Claire must have known about this island, followed by Dr. Wu himself, too.
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Actually not. The Masrani and DPG ( and Extinction Now! ) websites confirm that Sorna and the events of TLW and JPIII happened.
http://www.masraniglobal.com/about/divisions/ingen/security/index.html
If you scroll down to the section titled news, it mentions that Hoskins was involved in "the infamous flying reptile "cleanup" operation over Canada in 2001" and was hired by Masrani due to how professionally he handled that.  So unless there were other flying reptiles in Canada in 2001, those were the Pteranodons.

http://www.dinosaurprotectiongroup.com/what-killed-the-gene-guard-act.html

https://twitter.com/extinction_now

Also according to the Evolution of Claire ( which I haven't read ) at least some Dinosaurs were imported from Sorna.
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Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

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