Dinosauria animated series

[Gwangi]

It was a great episode, it's amazing what kind of story you can tell in 6 minutes when you know what you're doing. I keep hoping there will be an episode I can show my 6 y/o daughter but so far, no luck. lol

[HD-man]

Épisode 2 is available and it is beautiful

This episode IS speculative, but in a way that's very believable based on what we know about living animals. Specifically, the ending reminded me of "the cooperative, mutually beneficial systems of communication present within mixed groups of hornbills, duiker antelopes and monkeys that have been documented in African forests" (See Naish/Barrett's "Dinosaurs: How They Lived and Evolved", of which I reviewed the 1st edition: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=2210.msg183625#msg183625 ). Felt bad for the chick that got eaten. Didn't think the Nanuqsaurus would be able to fit inside the Troodon cave. I hope see more raptor dinos in future episodes, even if they're just cameos like the hadrosaurs in the 1st episode.

I keep hoping there will be an episode I can show my 6 y/o daughter but so far, no luck. lol

Out of curiosity, what's stopping you?

[Gwangi]

Out of curiosity, what's stopping you?

I'm concerned that your goal here is to bait me into an argument, so I'm hesitant to respond, but here goes.

Blood, violence, death. I'm not as opposed to those things as most parents, I know they're a natural part of life and I think understanding that is healthy for development. My daughter understands death, we just lost our dog a couple weeks ago, I have a number of reptiles that eat live food, etc. But she is sensitive about the media she's exposed to, easily scared and disturbed, so I tread lightly in that department. If she had the constitution for it I would show it to her, but she doesn't so I take small steps, I let her set the pace. I've got her watching nature documentaries at least, but even those ones are less graphic than Dinosauria. I don't have her watching the Kruger sightings Youtube page or anything like that.

[HD-man]

I'm concerned that your goal here is to bait me into an argument, so I'm hesitant to respond, but here goes.

I thought you knew me better than that. Shame.

If she had the constitution for it I would show it to her, but she doesn't so I take small steps, I let her set the pace.

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can be.

I don't have her watching the Kruger sightings Youtube page or anything like that.

I like those videos too. This is 1 of my favorite recent examples, partly b/c it reminds me of how Troodon probably hunted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-G0tmNmIVU

[acro-man]

H @HD-man this video, damn, I can instantly feel the despair our ancestors had when living under the shadows of dinosaurs. Lucky we humans have outgrown them (modern birds) in size and wit, many smaller mammals still haven't.

[Gwangi]

I thought you knew me better than that. Shame.

All I can say to that is, for me to have that concern a precedent must have been set. 

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can be.

It's odd. She watches the original Land Before Time and Moana which can both be intense and scary, and they don't phase her at all, but then I tried to watch Luca with her and she couldn't get through it. Go figure. She might be able to handle Camp Cretaceous but I would rather show it to her when she's older and able to follow the story better.

EDIT: At my daughter's current age I was watching Watership Down, and I loved it.

[CityRaptor]

H @HD-man this video, damn, I can instantly feel the despair our ancestors had when living under the shadows of dinosaurs.

Those where the days. Back then no one would have questioned the scaryness of feathered dinosaurs.

[Stegotyranno420]

H @HD-man this video, damn, I can instantly feel the despair our ancestors had when living under the shadows of dinosaurs.

Those where the days. Back then no one would have questioned the scaryness of feathered dinosaurs.

And everyone would had agreed with what every dinosaur in the area looked like.
I was born in the wrong generation (jk)

[Stegotyranno420]

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can

I could relate. I recall as a young child ,with my brother,  watching many dinosaur documentaries like WW trilogy and Clash of the dinosaurs, those pivot animations of dinosaurs fights which inspired me to animate myself, and similar media, all calmly and excitedly. However real life or extremely realistic gore, especially of mammals, really freaks me out and I cannot watch. On the other hand, for a long time of my life, the mere idea of Sasquatch made me dread it intensively,  along with werewolves, boogeymen, etc. I believe its the same Uncanny Valley thing you also experienced. Something about humanoids not looking exactly like humans really scared me as a kid.

On the topic of the series, I only had watched episode 1. On the plot, I'm kind of mixed on it. Something about super intense intra-species fighting just kind of annoyed me. It kind of just felt like it had the opportunity to be something different,  but just became a really gory Kruger Sightings video of related animals hurting eachother to great injuries just so they can have more wives/mates. I know it's the truth of life and all, but I rather would had seen something like calm social interactions of the herd. Maybe show the social defenses of kids in back, and moms n dads in front.
Nonetheless,  I really loved the effects and animation. Those fight scenes were really cool from an animatiors perspective .
The designs were also well made and I like the half cartoon half real build of the animals. Overall I will give episode 1 a 8/10. Lookinv forward.

[GojiraGuy1954]

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can

I could relate. I recall as a young child ,with my brother,  watching many dinosaur documentaries like WW trilogy and Clash of the dinosaurs, those pivot animations of dinosaurs fights which inspired me to animate myself, and similar media, all calmly and excitedly. However real life or extremely realistic gore, especially of mammals, really freaks me out and I cannot watch. On the other hand, for a long time of my life, the mere idea of Sasquatch made me dread it intensively,  along with werewolves, boogeymen, etc. I believe its the same Uncanny Valley thing you also experienced. Something about humanoids not looking exactly like humans really scared me as a kid.

On the topic of the series, I only had watched episode 1. On the plot, I'm kind of mixed on it. Something about super intense intra-species fighting just kind of annoyed me. It kind of just felt like it had the opportunity to be something different,  but just became a really gory Kruger Sightings video of related animals hurting eachother to great injuries just so they can have more wives/mates. I know it's the truth of life and all, but I rather would had seen something like calm social interactions of the herd. Maybe show the social defenses of kids in back, and moms n dads in front.
Nonetheless,  I really loved the effects and animation. Those fight scenes were really cool from an animatiors perspective .
The designs were also well made and I like the half cartoon half real build of the animals. Overall I will give episode 1 a 8/10. Lookinv forward.

But that's what we always see with herbivorous dinosaurs. Seeing media with aggressive herbivore dinos is such a rarity nowadays

[Gwangi]

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can

I could relate. I recall as a young child ,with my brother,  watching many dinosaur documentaries like WW trilogy and Clash of the dinosaurs, those pivot animations of dinosaurs fights which inspired me to animate myself, and similar media, all calmly and excitedly. However real life or extremely realistic gore, especially of mammals, really freaks me out and I cannot watch. On the other hand, for a long time of my life, the mere idea of Sasquatch made me dread it intensively,  along with werewolves, boogeymen, etc. I believe its the same Uncanny Valley thing you also experienced. Something about humanoids not looking exactly like humans really scared me as a kid.

On the topic of the series, I only had watched episode 1. On the plot, I'm kind of mixed on it. Something about super intense intra-species fighting just kind of annoyed me. It kind of just felt like it had the opportunity to be something different,  but just became a really gory Kruger Sightings video of related animals hurting eachother to great injuries just so they can have more wives/mates. I know it's the truth of life and all, but I rather would had seen something like calm social interactions of the herd. Maybe show the social defenses of kids in back, and moms n dads in front.
Nonetheless,  I really loved the effects and animation. Those fight scenes were really cool from an animatiors perspective .
The designs were also well made and I like the half cartoon half real build of the animals. Overall I will give episode 1 a 8/10. Lookinv forward.

Agreed. I love what I've seen so far with the series, truly some of the best dinosaur media I've ever seen, but I hope that a couple episodes are a bit more peaceful. Courtship displays, nesting behavior, or something else less violent. Then I can show my daughter and allow her to appreciate the animation and accurate dinosaurs, without babies being eaten and impalements. 

[GojiraGuy1954]

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can

I could relate. I recall as a young child ,with my brother,  watching many dinosaur documentaries like WW trilogy and Clash of the dinosaurs, those pivot animations of dinosaurs fights which inspired me to animate myself, and similar media, all calmly and excitedly. However real life or extremely realistic gore, especially of mammals, really freaks me out and I cannot watch. On the other hand, for a long time of my life, the mere idea of Sasquatch made me dread it intensively,  along with werewolves, boogeymen, etc. I believe its the same Uncanny Valley thing you also experienced. Something about humanoids not looking exactly like humans really scared me as a kid.

On the topic of the series, I only had watched episode 1. On the plot, I'm kind of mixed on it. Something about super intense intra-species fighting just kind of annoyed me. It kind of just felt like it had the opportunity to be something different,  but just became a really gory Kruger Sightings video of related animals hurting eachother to great injuries just so they can have more wives/mates. I know it's the truth of life and all, but I rather would had seen something like calm social interactions of the herd. Maybe show the social defenses of kids in back, and moms n dads in front.
Nonetheless,  I really loved the effects and animation. Those fight scenes were really cool from an animatiors perspective .
The designs were also well made and I like the half cartoon half real build of the animals. Overall I will give episode 1 a 8/10. Lookinv forward.

Agreed. I love what I've seen so far with the series, truly some of the best dinosaur media I've ever seen, but I hope that a couple episodes are a bit more peaceful. Courtship displays, nesting behavior, or something else less violent. Then I can show my daughter and allow her to appreciate the animation and accurate dinosaurs, without babies being eaten and impalements.

To be fair, violence is a very large part of the natural world. Courtship can involve violence, Predators need to be violent to survive, etc

[Gwangi]

Fair enough. No judgement from me. I know not everyone's scared of the same things. I saw JP in theaters when I was 6 without any problems, but as a pre-teen, the Cousin Skeeter puppet initially creeped me out in an Uncanny Valley kind of way. I'm guessing that means she also hasn't seen Camp Cretaceous b/c of how suspenseful it can

I could relate. I recall as a young child ,with my brother,  watching many dinosaur documentaries like WW trilogy and Clash of the dinosaurs, those pivot animations of dinosaurs fights which inspired me to animate myself, and similar media, all calmly and excitedly. However real life or extremely realistic gore, especially of mammals, really freaks me out and I cannot watch. On the other hand, for a long time of my life, the mere idea of Sasquatch made me dread it intensively,  along with werewolves, boogeymen, etc. I believe its the same Uncanny Valley thing you also experienced. Something about humanoids not looking exactly like humans really scared me as a kid.

On the topic of the series, I only had watched episode 1. On the plot, I'm kind of mixed on it. Something about super intense intra-species fighting just kind of annoyed me. It kind of just felt like it had the opportunity to be something different,  but just became a really gory Kruger Sightings video of related animals hurting eachother to great injuries just so they can have more wives/mates. I know it's the truth of life and all, but I rather would had seen something like calm social interactions of the herd. Maybe show the social defenses of kids in back, and moms n dads in front.
Nonetheless,  I really loved the effects and animation. Those fight scenes were really cool from an animatiors perspective .
The designs were also well made and I like the half cartoon half real build of the animals. Overall I will give episode 1 a 8/10. Lookinv forward.

Agreed. I love what I've seen so far with the series, truly some of the best dinosaur media I've ever seen, but I hope that a couple episodes are a bit more peaceful. Courtship displays, nesting behavior, or something else less violent. Then I can show my daughter and allow her to appreciate the animation and accurate dinosaurs, without babies being eaten and impalements.

To be fair, violence is a very large part of the natural world. Courtship can involve violence, Predators need to be violent to survive, etc

I am fully aware, more so than most people. Refer to my comment in response to HD-man above. None of what has been showcased so far bothers me personally, I just would have liked to have shared it with my kid is all. Nature is violent and cruel to be sure, but it isn't always, and some of that was showcased in Dinosauria as well. The Troodon mimicking the falling ice and teaching it to her chick, that sort of thing, we could use an episode or two of just that. I have spent countless hours observing all manner of wildlife, usually whatever they're doing is far less dramatic than you might think, boring to most people I'm sure.

[Smilodon P.]

New making of on the air:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU_TuVGxc2E

[HD-man]

New making of on the air:

As previously mentioned, I think David's being too hard on himself when he refers to certain aspects as "inaccuracies" just b/c they're unknown. In this case:
-In reference to the "level of snowfall", I didn't interpret "Frozen Past" as "a permanent snowy frozen wasteland" (E.g. AFAICT, the snow isn't even ankle deep to the bigger dinos), but as "similar to...modern Britain, New York or northern Japan" (which, according to Darren Naish, is what "data from several parts of the Mesozoic world indicate"). I've never been to his real-life inspiration of Scotland, but based on this video, its winter doesn't look too different IMO.
-In reference to Nanuqsaurus, you could speculate that their coats changed colors w/the seasons like those of ptarmigans.
-In reference to Troodon, I agree that mimicry seems unlikely (though not impossible, given how little we still know about non-bird dino soft tissue), but you could argue that "subtly modify[ing] their behavior depending on who is present" was within their abilities based on similarly-intelligent birds. I'm specifically thinking of chickens ( https://backyardpoultry.iamcountryside.com/chickens-101/are-chickens-smart/ ).

[Carnoking]

Those "making of" videos are so inspiring. Makes me I had learned more about animation so that I could try something like this. Also makes me want to start sculpting again!

To comment on the question of inaccuracies, I too wondered if it was possible for Nanuqsaurus to have a "winter" coat. Either way, I love the design!

[HD-man]

This video reminds me of the Dinosauria series. More specifically, to quote myself in the comments:

In reference to Curiosity Stream, I know you have to plug it, but referring to "Amazing Earth" as "a good comparison between Hollywood and the real world" right after showing a clip of its JP/JW-copying T. rex? C'mon man, you're better than that! For an actually good-looking/mostly accurate depiction of Late Cretaceous North America, see David James Armsby's "Dinosauria" series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ5VEKOKH8PCoo-gp50NgGhm3CNPAhgle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73lYMAAu7GI&t=1s

[Carnoking]

https://youtu.be/tamPoLLiEew

[HD-man]

At 1st, yes, but it turned out alright for Mr. Lambeosaurus.

[HD-man]

I'm surprised no one beat me to posting the "making of" video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3BQHCvUESo